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I know you E55/E63 guys luv perf so.. 2008 Viper vs. 2007 C6Z06

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Old 09-01-2007 | 04:43 AM
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I know you E55/E63 guys luv perf so.. 2008 Viper vs. 2007 C6Z06

http://www.caranddriver.com/carvideos/

Hope it's not a re-post? enjoy...


Funny side note, Just got my latest C&D subscription in the mail, full write up on the new Viper w/600HP vs C6 Z06... Funny part is the writer says & I quote... "At lower RPM the Viper exhaust sounds like a tuba having sex with a vacuum cleaner!"

Although in the video it sounds frickin' SWEET to me! But the video deffinitely doesn't show the Viper @ lower RPM....LOL...

ALMOST FORGOT THE TEST RESULTS..

2008 Viper 600HP
Weight 3455lbs
0-60 3.5 sec
1/4 mile 11.60 @ 126mph
Top speed 202mph!


C6 Z06 505HP
Weight 3100lbs
0-60 3.7
1/4 mile 11.70 @ 125
Top speed 198mph


Both have 6 speed manual trans

Another odd thing the Viper redlines @ 6250 RPM's???? Guess I don't know squat about motors but I would think the Viper would be like the BMW redlining @ 8000+ RPM's

Z06 Vette @ 7000 RPM's

The new Viper HP doesn't kill the Z06 as some/most would think, they added 95 BHP making it have a better top end, the Torque only went up by 20 at the crank! from the older model...

Lastly the C&D team voted the Z06 1st place overall! they outfitted the Viper w/Michelin Pilot Sport PS2's while the Z06 got the *****y Badyear Runflats! things are like skateboard wheels lol...

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Old 09-01-2007 | 08:55 AM
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Personally, I consider it embarrassing for the Viper that all that extra money and all the lack of creature comforts (it is not a car you could drive every day) and it barely beats the Z06. Heck, put Pilot Sports on the Z06 and they would be neck and neck.

A couple grand in mods and the Z06 toasts the Viper.

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Old 09-01-2007 | 12:08 PM
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1/4 mile in 11.6@126, top speed of 202MPH and a
0-150 MPH in 17.0 sec...all for 86,000 with a factory
warranty. Nothing to be embarassed about that.. In fact DC will be the first to mention that the car is not for everyone...and that is just the way we like it.
Just a note, author said track was a bit damp and we all know what a slippery surface does for the numbers......and a driver's confidence. A driver also needs some 'time' behind the wheel of a Viper to learn its' driving needs. Not a car for the faint of heart.
Old 09-01-2007 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Thericker
...Another odd thing the Viper redlines @ 6250 RPM's???? Guess I don't know squat about motors but I would think the Viper would be like the BMW redlining @ 8000+ RPM's...
big difference between bmw's 5 litre v10 and dodges 8.4 litre big block.
Old 09-01-2007 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 05VENOM
1/4 mile in 11.6@126, top speed of 202MPH and a
0-150 MPH in 17.0 sec...all for 86,000 with a factory
warranty. Nothing to be embarassed about that.. In fact DC will be the first to mention that the car is not for everyone...and that is just the way we like it.
Just a note, author said track was a bit damp and we all know what a slippery surface does for the numbers......and a driver's confidence. A driver also needs some 'time' behind the wheel of a Viper to learn its' driving needs. Not a car for the faint of heart.
No doubt! the Viper also has zero handling control or ESP Scary beast to tame...
Old 09-01-2007 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
big difference between bmw's 5 litre v10 and dodges 8.4 litre big block.
So very true
Old 09-01-2007 | 08:40 PM
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What's that saying, "King for a day." Don't worry. You know Chevy already has the response ready for the new Viper.
Old 09-01-2007 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BlownV8
What's that saying, "King for a day." Don't worry. You know Chevy already has the response ready for the new Viper.
Sure as heck hope so. Then DC will offer their performance package that ups the ante to 675hp. Was already previewed at the VOI9 (Viper owners internationals).

It truely is a great time to be a car enthusiast. If it weren't for all this HP competition the car companies would just be complacent with their products and wouldn't be 'pressured' to one up the competitors.
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Originally Posted by BlownV8
What's that saying, "King for a day." Don't worry. You know Chevy already has the response ready for the new Viper.
hahaha blue devil show yourself
Old 09-01-2007 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by way2evil
hahaha blue devil show yourself
Word thru the "Grapevine" is 650-700HP Supercharged 6.2 liter
Old 09-01-2007 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tscales
Personally, I consider it embarrassing for the Viper that all that extra money and all the lack of creature comforts (it is not a car you could drive every day) and it barely beats the Z06. Heck, put Pilot Sports on the Z06 and they would be neck and neck.

A couple grand in mods and the Z06 toasts the Viper.

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Curious if you've ever raced your C6 vs your 2005 E55? If yes? what were the results?
Old 09-02-2007 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Thericker
Curious if you've ever raced your C6 vs your 2005 E55? If yes? what were the results?
I raced a stock C6 in a stock E55 and the E55 was faster. We even traded drivers to make sure, but the results were the same.
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Originally Posted by Big Carrot
I raced a stock C6 in a stock E55 and the E55 was faster. We even traded drivers to make sure, but the results were the same.
I've raced a board member w/211 55 w/similar out come but it was pretty close on a couple of our races (ie 1 race by 2 lengths to 140mph, last by only 3/4 length from 30-140ish but all in favor of 211 E55) could you be more specific as to your outcome? Lengths pulled, speeds, from a dig, roll-ons, etc...

The E55 211 in stock form is very impressive
Old 09-08-2007 | 11:32 AM
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I think it is sad that the Viper has 100 more HP and in all of the recent tests has only beaten the Z06 by a tenth and 1-2 mph in the 1/4. Just goes to show you how much of a role gearing and weight plays when it comes to acceleration.

Just imagine some of the numbers we will see from the upcoming ZR1 Vet..
Old 09-08-2007 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 05VENOM
1/4 mile in 11.6@126, top speed of 202MPH and a
0-150 MPH in 17.0 sec...all for 86,000 with a factory
warranty. Nothing to be embarassed about that.. In fact DC will be the first to mention that the car is not for everyone...and that is just the way we like it.
Just a note, author said track was a bit damp and we all know what a slippery surface does for the numbers......and a driver's confidence. A driver also needs some 'time' behind the wheel of a Viper to learn its' driving needs. Not a car for the faint of heart.

WHO IS DC???? Hopefully you are not referring to DaimlerChrysler? Lets drop the partnership as finally they did.....

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