SleeperX

My favorite Gustav line in the video..
Aww go..go..go...go . ......
Aww go.. let's go....

Gustav

Yes, that was annoying. Next time Ill jump out of the car to save some weight.

blackbenzz

Make sure its at high speed!

Gustav

Ill do it at lower speeds, that will humilate the Mercedes more. Weight is more of a factor at lower speeds

Also, it is nice to survive.

smayshusband

next time you come to New York i will take a ride and show you what a real German car can do

Gustav

Im on

zoink

Windscreen (which the M6 on video has) should minimize turbulence significantly. If you ever drive a convertible w/ a windscreen, you won't even have a bad hair day. This means no or minimal winds go inside the cabin.

Windows opened do create a lot of drags.... just open your windows and speed... there's a lot of winds going inside your car. Even the rear windows would become an unnecessary frontal area.

Define "a lot".... Just a guess... I think coupe is at most 0.1-0.2 second faster in 1/4 than convertible. This may translate to almost nothing on a street race, especially from rolling. We can't even tell for sure from a video if a car is only 1/4 car length ahead from the other car.

Plus knowing a wide range of 1/4 mile time of one car (M6 is ~0.5sec; E63 is also ~0.5sec), there are some E63's faster than M6's (vert or coupe) and there are some M6's faster than E63's.

So unless you do controlled races (emphasize in controlled) on numbers of different E63's vs. numbers of different M6's, you could hardly come w/ any sensible and credible conclusion.

DarrenCT

pretty close match both times... nice runs

Gustav

Thank you.

05VENOM

Yet I am the only one consistantly at E-town every week.
Well anyone up for a challenge...will be there this Friday......again.

Gustav

Looks like Im there once a year

05VENOM

Come on down Fri...never ran against the M6. I am not one of those AMg is better than M is better than p-cars.
i just enjoy good clean racing. At the track though where it is more controlled....start at same time etc. It seems alot of people on these forums love talking trash but have never even seen a track. Anyway I will go up against any stock car out there. If it is modded will run against it too....but if HEAVILY modded I would have to bring out the Viper to even the playing field.

Gustav

That is very true. Alot of posing

blackbenzz

I'm sorry, coming from you that just made me laugh!

Gustav

Funnyh thing is that I have not seen a single thing form you except you complaining. Can you give us soem videos?

If you where as good as complaining as in producing films they would be GREAT!

blackbenzz

You must have short term memory! I posted em up on M5board remember? You sent me a bunch of warnings too.

CL600 giving the M6 the jump: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1KXdq6f1mUM

Modded M5: http://youtube.com/watch?v=uuG948yy6...e=user&search=

Here is my car last year: http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...current=11.flv

And I put out an open call to all M's for Oct. 8th at MIR on m5board.com but they're all scared! I have the track rented out. Heads up racing. You should post it up for me again since i'm banned over there. Run your car, not your mouth.

ProjectC55

Gustav! That E63 bust yo *** in the 2nd race! What happened?

BoBcanada

this thread is totally awesome..... Gustav You are such a baby lol!

Btw Z06 is still FASTER than any of BMW line up!

Sean03S55

It's faster than any of the MB line up as well.

Sean03S55

Since when has the 6 series become a roadster??? I feel it's actually a direct competitor to the CLK, both are cabriolets and are in a similar price range. The SL550 value is around par to the M6 and the 55 is quite a few pennies more...

Ask anyone who they feel the more premium German car brand is and they will NOT say BMW. .

TPowerdinNY

Gustav, i know u really love the M cars but just bashing all the AMG cars and all that bull***** moderation over on the m5board makes anyone who likes the M6/M5 seem like an idiot.
I know AJ, as a matter of fact ask him how my brother's (snags/alex) E55 was against his on some fun runs on the Exotix for Charity Run in NJ. His E55 is fast but are both fairly matched machines. Neither one is really better than the other, they just both have different characteristics and in some areas one is a little better than another.
I'm tired of hearing how the 55 AMG is faster than the M5/M6 and the M5/M6 is faster than the 55 AMG. We know that the M performs to its best in its higher speeds because it was built a little more dedicated to it. Then the 55AMG has better all-around acceleration. The E55 is really easy to modify but a modified M5/M6 is an awesome car as well. Avery with the white M5 on that run had some great power. E55/SL55 and M5/M6 are good comparos.
Who really cares, just stop talkin so much *****. AJ's car did not smoke that E63 nor vice versa... it was all on the jump. Everything is so situational unless your AMG or M is nicely modified to give it that big difference.
BTW The M6 convertible is a direct competitor to the SL55, not the CLK or SLK. Price ranges might be off but BMWs have always had a lower price point, especially when comparing AMGs and Ms... both lines have slightly different conceptive thinking of what their own performance machine is and has. BlackBenz your videos are almost as pointless as Gustav's... I remember that monster CL600. Nicely modded and fast as hell, VERY impressive... so how does this fit into this whole discussion?... firstly they are not nearly based on the same principles and the M6 is completely stock minus the speed limiter. The CL600 is a V-12 bi-turbo cruising machine, now plus those mods it makes it crazy fast... its gonna fly by a ton of cars. The M5/M6 is a completely different animal, it doesn't have the same purpose... why do you think you didn't see the CL600 slicing through traffic and such? Your Kleeman CLK55 might be fast as hell, it looks great... but how does this have anything to do with a stock E63 vs a stock M5/M6. You will definitely smack around a few cars with that thing, including a few higher-end AMGs.

Andy7oaks

Why do BMW insist on making their coupe models look like sad fish from the front whilst their saloons look very good from the front?

Compare for one moment the M5 and the M6. The M5 front is mean and aggressive and looks fine. The M6 front looks like a depressed guppy. Same for the Z4, that reminds me most of a parrot fish.

That explains why the AMG driver deliberately lost, he did not want to have to look at Mrs. Puff in his rear view mirror.

Regards

Andy

dc63er

wow. this gustav guy has an inferiority complex like ive never seen!!! that means you have EXTREME ANTISOCIAL BEHAVIOR.

polarbexar

Hey don't forget you had a full tank of gas. (since weight matters)

Oh and learn to type.

JAYCL600

My car and Blackbenzz's car have nothing to do with the video you are watching, it stems from the BS videos of Gustav's airfield event from the M5board so that may have confused you. There wasnt really a need to prove that the bi-turbo was faster against any modded/stock M5/M6 since we knew the outcome of those contests. You wont see my CL600 "slicing" thru traffic because its kinda dangerous at those speeds, I remember how you guys like to drive from the run but slicing thru traffic doesnt prove anything when I can wait for a straight and be safer, but underestimating the handling of my car maybe be like underestimating my power, its way more nimble then you may think We had fun running with you and your brother, his car is very fast for a stock E55.