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Old 09-18-2007, 07:31 PM
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C6 ZO6 Stock vs. BMW M6 Modified

Don't know if this is a repost. The M6 was neck and neck with the Z till 160. Is this possible. Thoughts?

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...d.php?t=103744
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Yes.

M6/M5 = High Redline RPM and fast *** gear changing and shifts. Why not?

And great Formula One based V-10 Engines that are easily modificable (a word?).

I'm not trying to be biased here!
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thoughts.....whoa fast m6
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Nope Z06 will kill it! more Gustav propaganda.....
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Nope Z06 will kill it! more Gustav propaganda.....
Not posted by Gustav and that was a legit race. We've been anticipating this race to be proven with video for a while now. It wasn't a stock M6 as it was well modded but it did pull the stock Z06.
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Originally Posted by Thericker
Nope Z06 will kill it! more Gustav propaganda.....
its not stock though....
i was realy impressed on how it walked it up top!
did not think this was possible as the ZO6 is a monster
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Just another video to add to the M6 legend (...or myth).

If a modded n/a M6 pulls on a Z06 like that and the Z06 raped an E55 RT Stage 5 then it looks like M has the upperhand on AMG.

Stock vs Stock: M wins.
Modded vs Modded: M wins.

Oh well, can't win 'em all. Guess we'll all have to wait for the twin turbo V8 from AMG...or maybe some forum members could get vids of the claimed M kills ...just to put an end to this debate thats been raging on for years now.
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Fine I understand the gearing of the M6 is good but to hold even with the vette at lower speeds. Isn't the strong points of the Zo6 is from a roll where there is traction? The video of the Zo6 rocking the stage 5 from what a 40 mph roll was crazy, since the E had more hp/tq.
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give the man credit.. he put his $$ to back up his claims.

I can assure you, to get that car to perform to that level was not cheap

Modded M6 beats a stock C6 Z06 is a good accomplishment..

but really who races to 195?

the fastest I have been this year is 120 and I pulled back quickly. (3 tickets)

most of the time Z06 are not stock.. therefore good luck finding a stock one.
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It looks like at 160 the M6 has a car length and then gearing takes over and the M pulls. Any car to hang w/ the Z06 to 160 from a 45mph roll is something else. Yes he spent bucks but not many can lay claim to pulling on a Z06.
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Man, that Z06 sure is awesome.


Here's what the M6 had on it...How much would all this stuff cost?

Carbon air filters removed
K & N stock filter replacement
Supersprint Headers
Supersprint Cats
Superprint X-Pipe w/ SS Resonator
Supersprint Sport Mufflers
AA Cam ECU Tune
3.91 Dinan Differential
Schrick Kelleners cams
Evosport Pulley
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I missed the modded part, but still compared to the AMG race????

Originally Posted by Shaun
Fine I understand the gearing of the M6 is good but to hold even with the vette at lower speeds. Isn't the strong points of the Zo6 is from a roll where there is traction? The video of the Zo6 rocking the stage 5 from what a 40 mph roll was crazy, since the E had more hp/tq.
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Originally Posted by ItalianStallion
Just another video to add to the M6 legend (...or myth).

If a modded n/a M6 pulls on a Z06 like that and the Z06 raped an E55 RT Stage 5 then it looks like M has the upperhand on AMG.

Stock vs Stock: M wins.
Modded vs Modded: M wins.
+1111111111

I have a good friend w/new STOCK 07' Z06, Anyone here have a Mythical M6 w/mods? if yes? I can set-up a race

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i remember the amg stage 5 vs z06 vid and something was off. i'm quite sure i wouldn't get walked like that from a stock z06.

hey thericker, can you find a c6 z06 in phoenix area that would want to run me? i'd love to do some testing just for fun (no ego bashing or bs).
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
i remember the amg stage 5 vs z06 vid and something was off. i'm quite sure i wouldn't get walked like that from a stock z06.

hey thericker, can you find a c6 z06 in phoenix area that would want to run me? i'd love to do some testing just for fun (no ego bashing or bs).
I'm w/ya I to was surprised @ that race, but both are respected members from this board, sorry no friends w/Z06 in your area that I know of.

Having said that NO way in hell will the modded m6 pull the E55 Renn5 like that either, it's all BMW BS
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
i remember the amg stage 5 vs z06 vid and something was off. i'm quite sure i wouldn't get walked like that from a stock z06.

hey thericker, can you find a c6 z06 in phoenix area that would want to run me? i'd love to do some testing just for fun (no ego bashing or bs).
Im not trying to start a thread war here,but that Renn stg 5 should have ran harder than that against a stock Zo6....That race was definately one of the odder ones posted here.IMO.
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Originally Posted by Jrocket
Im not trying to start a thread war here,but that Renn stg 5 should have ran harder than that against a stock Zo6....That race was definately one of the odder ones posted here.IMO.
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Insane M6! The Kelleners cams and taller gearing killed the Z06 on top.
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M5 will never beat a stock Z06

I have both cars. Stock Z06 will kill E55 and any moded M5. My 2007 Z06 with moded intake and tune put down 485rwhp and it is 3060lbs. I have lighter brakes, rear lexan glass, seats and such in the Z. I am a MBZ fan and have never owned GM until the 2006 Z and now a 2007 Z and will get the Blue Devil Z in 2009.

Yes, I will race any M5. I live in Yorba Linda, CA and I am not hard to find. My partner has a 2008 M6 she just got it last week. The M6 is SICK! I am moding it for her. I will try to get video soon.

From what I have read a guy just ran a 11.9x with his pricey mods. The Z06 runs 11.2 at 128 stock and the fastest stock Z06 in Ranger at 10.85 1/4 mile. So it will take a 200 shot of nos for a M5 to run close to that.
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Can someone help me out on this gearing thing. How could 3.91 gears help that car on the top end. Maybe it's my old 1970's muscle car mentality, but when you ran near 4.11's, your car was scrreeeammmin on the highway at 80-90mph. Is it the 3.91's combined with the massive redline on the M that is making this work.

Just can't imagine 3.91 rears pulling 185 but the vid proved it. Just wild.
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I have both cars. Stock Z06 will kill E55 and any moded M5. My 2007 Z06 with moded intake and tune put down 485rwhp and it is 3060lbs. I have lighter brakes, rear lexan glass, seats and such in the Z. I am a MBZ fan and have never owned GM until the 2006 Z and now a 2007 Z and will get the Blue Devil Z in 2009.

Yes, I will race any M5. I live in Yorba Linda, CA and I am not hard to find. My partner has a 2008 M6 she just got it last week. The M6 is SICK! I am moding it for her. I will try to get video soon.

From what I have read a guy just ran a 11.9x with his pricey mods. The Z06 runs 11.2 at 128 stock and the fastest stock Z06 in Ranger at 10.85 1/4 mile. So it will take a 200 shot of nos for a M5 to run close to that.
We're talking M6's not M5's.
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Ok! M6 will race! What ever! It will need to be a M10, M20 or M40 to win. They are luxo cars not race cars. The Z06 is a race car.
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It's a driver thing... I beat a C6 Z06 a month or so ago.

I've since given up on trying to prove that really, in the end, it's a driver thing.
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Can someone help me out on this gearing thing. How could 3.91 gears help that car on the top end. Maybe it's my old 1970's muscle car mentality, but when you ran near 4.11's, your car was scrreeeammmin on the highway at 80-90mph. Is it the 3.91's combined with the massive redline on the M that is making this work.

Just can't imagine 3.91 rears pulling 185 but the vid proved it. Just wild.
it has to do with the tranny gear ratios and 7 speeds. our muscle cars were lucky to have 3 or possibly 4 gears back then.
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SO SO true. It is a driver thing. I always shift the Z at 7150 Rpm. Most Z owners on the street think it has to much power and shi-. I can get it to hook in first through to 7100 and speed shift to 180mph. The z does start to become mortal at 160+mph. Due to 5th gear being so tall. I have had it to 185 2x and all good. Been 160-170 many times, but 180+ takes awhile and some big ***** on the street.

I guess if I am in the E55 and I see a Z06 I will want to race. Even knowing that with a goofy driver the Z will still take the E55. But light to light and some cold air and ??? Fun times!

I was going to mod the E55 but from what all are saying even with 15K into the E55 it will still have trouble with the Z06? I think I will still do the cooling mod, pulley, tune and Quaife lsd with drag radials.

Anyways The M6 is SICK SICK!


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