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Old 09-24-2007, 03:18 PM
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RE050A vs. Pzero Rosso vs. Yoko Advan Sport

Guys,

I just posted this in the tires/wheels forum, but figured I would get more responses here.....

I need all the opinions I can get. I'm about to order tires for my 19x9, 19x11 iforged daytonas for the SL55. I'm looking at 255/35-19 front and 305/30-19 rear.

At tirerack, three choices came up. Bridgestone RE050A, Pirellie Pzero Rosso, and Yokohama Advan Sport.

Personally, I have had Bridgestone S03s, RE040s, PS2s, Pirelli Pzeros, Goodyear f1 GSD3, and Contis. Out of all these, I hated the contis. I had the best experience with the PS2s and SO3s. S03s were better in the rain. GSD3 provided great traction too. The pirellis wore out pretty fast.

FYI, I have Pirelli pzero on my stock 18s.

So, out of the 3 tires from tirerack, which would you guys choose and why?
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are these the only choices you will pick from? the bridgestone REO1R is the best tire i ever had. but thats not in your selection.
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Just got my Evo magazine today and they had an article on a comprehensive tire test. Haven't read it but the Bridgestone rated very well - surprisingly they preferred it to the PS2. Again, haven't read it so don't hold me to it.

I'll read it tonight and post the results from the different tests if you'd like.

I think the overall winner was the goodyear F1
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Just got my Evo magazine today and they had an article on a comprehensive tire test. Haven't read it but the Bridgestone rated very well - surprisingly they preferred it to the PS2. Again, haven't read it so don't hold me to it.

I'll read it tonight and post the results from the different tests if you'd like.

I think the overall winner was the goodyear F1
yes post results!
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Please post the results. Thanks
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Originally Posted by Sunny55
Guys,

I just posted this in the tires/wheels forum, but figured I would get more responses here.....

I need all the opinions I can get. I'm about to order tires for my 19x9, 19x11 iforged daytonas for the SL55. I'm looking at 255/35-19 front and 305/30-19 rear.

At tirerack, three choices came up. Bridgestone RE050A, Pirellie Pzero Rosso, and Yokohama Advan Sport.

Personally, I have had Bridgestone S03s, RE040s, PS2s, Pirelli Pzeros, Goodyear f1 GSD3, and Contis. Out of all these, I hated the contis. I had the best experience with the PS2s and SO3s. S03s were better in the rain. GSD3 provided great traction too. The pirellis wore out pretty fast.

FYI, I have Pirelli pzero on my stock 18s.

So, out of the 3 tires from tirerack, which would you guys choose and why?
Hey there Sunny55:

If you want TRACTION, the Brigestone 050 PP's are unbilievable

I have them, I track them and would recomend them to everyone. Just keep in mind that they are only a 140 treadware, so don't expect them to last forever.
I am surprised that you say the S03's were better in the rain than the Goodyear GS-D3's, as they were by FAR my best rain tire ever. Heck, I even raced on Nelson Ledges with GS-D3's in the rain with my blown stang.

Anyway, If traction is the game, get the PP's and I can assure you you won't be disapointed

See yeah
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I would stay away from the Pirelli's. The Yokohamas would be my choice but the Bridgestones would not be a bad choice either. One of my friends has the 050A and they are a bit noisy.
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OK boys, here you go...

The tires tested were: Bridgestone RE050-A, Continental contisport contact 3, Dunlop sport Maxx, Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymetric, Kumho Ecsta STP, Michelin Pilot sport PS2, Pirelli Pzero Nero, Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta, Yokohama S drive

*The test car was a VW Golf GTI*

Wet Handling
Lap Times
1. Goodyear
2. Vredestein
3. Conti.
4. Pirelli
5. Bridgestone
6. Kumho
7. Michelin
8. Dunlop
9. Yokohama

Lateral G.
1. Goodyear
2. Vred.
3. Conti.
4. Pirelli
5. Kumho
6. Bridg.
7. Michelin
8. Dunlop
9. Yoko.

Subjective
1. Vred.
2. Goodyear
3. Conti.
4. Pirelli
5. Michelin
6. Bridgestone
7. Kumho
8. Dun.
9. Yoko.

Aquaplaning

Straight line
1. Dunlop
2. Bridg.
3. conti.
4. Goodyear
5. Vred.
6. Pirelli
7. Kumho
8. Michelin
9. Yoko.

Cornering (Lat. accel - aqaplaning)
1. Vred.
2. Bridg.
3. Goodyear
4. Pirelli
5. Conti.
6. Dunlop
7. Michelin
8. Kumho
9. Yoko.

Braking

Wet braking
1. Goodyear
2. Bridg.
3. Conti.
4. Pirelli
5. Kumho
6. Vred.
7. Michelin
8. Dunlop
9. Yoko.

Dry Braking
1. Michelin
2. Vred.
3. Bridg.
4. Kumho
5. Pirelli
6. Conti.
7. Goodyear
8. Dunlop
9. Yoko.

Resistance
1. Yoko.
2. Michelin
3. Kumho
4. Goodyear
5. Dunlop
6. Bridg.
7. conti.
8. Pirelli
9. Vred.

Dry Handling

Lap Times (only 1 and a half sec. separate the fastest and slowest)
1. Goodyear
2. Michelin
3. Bridg.
4. Conti.
5. Pirelli
6. Vred.
7. yoko.
8. Kumho
9. Dunlop

Lateral G
1. Goodyear
2. Michelin
3. Bridg.
4. Conti.
5. Yoko.
6. Dunlop
7. Vred.
8. kumho
9. Pirelli

Subjective (dry handling)
1. Goodyear
2. Bridg.
3. Pirelli
4. Michelin
5. Conti.
6. Vred.
7. Yoko
8. Kumho
9. Dunlop

On the road - subjective (steering feel, ride quality, and noise)
1. Vred.
2. Dunlop
3. Michelin
4. Pirelli
5. goodyear
6. Bridg.
7. Kumho
8. Conti.
9. Yoko.

Final Results

1. Goodyear
2. Vred.
3. conti.
4. Bridg.
5. Michelin
6. Pirelli
7. Kumho
8. Dunlop
9. Yoko.
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Thanks guys....

Seems like Goodyear did really well.
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I checked to see if Goodyear F1 makes tires in 305/30-19 and it doesn't.

I'm leaning towards the Bridgestone RE050As over the Prirelli and Yokos.....
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Originally Posted by ROCKETW19
the bridgestone REO1R is the best tire i ever had.
+1!
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With all due respect the results above are meaningless unless you own a Golf GTi.
The E and SL weigh considerably more AND the Golf is front wheel drive!

Go with the opinions from real world experience.
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Originally Posted by OzE55
With all due respect the results above are meaningless unless you own a Golf GTi.
The E and SL weigh considerably more AND the Golf is front wheel drive!

Go with the opinions from real world experience.
Hey, I was asked to post it and I did. I didn't run the test. If you're doing a tire test I guess you're going to have to pick a car - can't use everything. Regardless of the car used, the characteristics of the tire should be similiar.

Evo's reason for using the VW: "The GTI was the natural choice. It has a superb chassis, offering fine steering, crisp responses and great poise, plus a torque-laden, traction-testing engine delivery, making it an ideal platform for showing up differences, especially in the subjective tests"
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Originally Posted by OzE55
With all due respect the results above are meaningless unless you own a Golf GTi.
The E and SL weigh considerably more AND the Golf is front wheel drive!

Go with the opinions from real world experience.
Real life on a heavy car, the Goodyear F1 GS-D3's were incredibly noisy and unimpressive. I ditched them with 50% of the tread remaining because they were so loud. I have also run Michelin Pilot Sports, RE050 A's, Conti Sports 2's, and many others. So far, I'd rate the RE050 A's the best all around for wear, price, hydroplane resistance, and low road noise. It may not be the best for total grip but 99.99999% of the drivers will not be able to to, subjectively, tell the difference.
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Originally Posted by cte430
Hey, I was asked to post it and I did. I didn't run the test. If you're doing a tire test I guess you're going to have to pick a car - can't use everything. Regardless of the car used, the characteristics of the tire should be similiar.

Evo's reason for using the VW: "The GTI was the natural choice. It has a superb chassis, offering fine steering, crisp responses and great poise, plus a torque-laden, traction-testing engine delivery, making it an ideal platform for showing up differences, especially in the subjective tests"
I wasn't down on you. Thanks for posting them. All information is valuable - it's the application of data that causes concerns.
I just wanted to warn those who are perhaps less informed that the results should be viewed with caution.
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Originally Posted by BlownV8
Real life on a heavy car, the Goodyear F1 GS-D3's were incredibly noisy and unimpressive. I ditched them with 50% of the tread remaining because they were so loud. I have also run Michelin Pilot Sports, RE050 A's, Conti Sports 2's, and many others. So far, I'd rate the RE050 A's the best all around for wear, price, hydroplane resistance, and low road noise. It may not be the best for total grip but 99.99999% of the drivers will not be able to to, subjectively, tell the difference.
Now that's real world experience. Worth more that most tyre track tests. Thanks.
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thanks for the replies guys. I went with re050as. Got incredible feedback about these tires.
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thanks for the replies guys. I went with re050as. Got incredible feedback about these tires.
How about you post a feedback reply in a few weeks? That way we all learn something from your experience.
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sure thing! I definitley will!
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sure thing! I definitley will!
you got the pole position right?
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No, they are not the pole positions. The RE050A pole positions do not come in the sizes im looking for. I know, I wanted those too!

Oh well, I'll let you know how these turn out anyways....hopefully great!

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