Video: Lingenfelter Z06 vs. E55
09-26-2007, 01:01 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toBnmX4cnU8
Here is a video of an SL65 vs. a Lingenfelter Z06. There are a few races, but I believe the Z06 vs. SL65 match up starts at 4:26 in the video.. Enjoy.. Those cars are fast....
Here is a video of an SL65 vs. a Lingenfelter Z06. There are a few races, but I believe the Z06 vs. SL65 match up starts at 4:26 in the video.. Enjoy.. Those cars are fast....
09-26-2007, 09:58 PM
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that car has ecu/airbox/tcu/lightweight rear drag setup, frank this isnt offered just yet as the tranny cant take it. As it it there are issues at this power level for my tranny, I can launch so hard it will go in limp home mode, ask anyone with a biturbo and they will tell u the same. I must also comment that this original post is a roll on race then we get into 1/4 time which isnt fair in a way specifically when talking about the biturbos because alot of that ET come from being able to launch on boost. I think you will find some of the e55's like sleeper rflow etc running very similar times as the modded 600's/65's at MIR. Again frank your car is ***** out fast!!!
However,If I were Frank I would call Brabus to find out what turbo's and manifolds they use on their CL600 6.3l 600.
And Frank this is the only way your gonna have a Luxury car and run low 11's high 10's at 130mph.
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At the heart of this exclusive automobile is the BRABUS SV12 S Biturbo engine. It is based on the turbocharged Mercedes 600 twelve-cylinder engine and represents the most powerful street-legal V12 engine in the world. Installing a special BRABUS crankshaft with longer stroke, combined with a bigger bore and correspondingly sized forged pistons, increases displacement from 5.5 to 6.3 liters. Further engine modifications also include precision-machining the cylinder heads and fitting them with four special camshafts.
At the heart of this exclusive automobile is the BRABUS SV12 S Biturbo engine. It is based on the turbocharged Mercedes 600 twelve-cylinder engine and represents the most powerful street-legal V12 engine in the world. Installing a special BRABUS crankshaft with longer stroke, combined with a bigger bore and correspondingly sized forged pistons, increases displacement from 5.5 to 6.3 liters. Further engine modifications also include precision-machining the cylinder heads and fitting them with four special camshafts.
In addition the engine peripherals are also modified extensively. The modifications include special exhaust manifolds, two larger turbochargers, a high-efficiency intercooler and a high-performance exhaust system with metal catalysts and low back pressure. Extensive bench tests determined the new programming for the engine electronics that not only maximizes power yield but also ensures that the engine meets stringent Euro IV emission limits.
Performance figures of the BRABUS SV12 S Biturbo displacement engine speak volumes: A rated power output of 730 hp / 537 kW at 5,100 rpm is just as extraordinary as a peak torque of 1,320 Nm at just 2,100 rpm. In the car peak torque is limited electronically to 1,100 Nm.
At the heart of this exclusive automobile is the BRABUS SV12 S Biturbo engine. It is based on the turbocharged Mercedes 600 twelve-cylinder engine and represents the most powerful street-legal V12 engine in the world. Installing a special BRABUS crankshaft with longer stroke, combined with a bigger bore and correspondingly sized forged pistons, increases displacement from 5.5 to 6.3 liters. Further engine modifications also include precision-machining the cylinder heads and fitting them with four special camshafts.
In addition the engine peripherals are also modified extensively. The modifications include special exhaust manifolds, two larger turbochargers, a high-efficiency intercooler and a high-performance exhaust system with metal catalysts and low back pressure. Extensive bench tests determined the new programming for the engine electronics that not only maximizes power yield but also ensures that the engine meets stringent Euro IV emission limits.
Performance figures of the BRABUS SV12 S Biturbo displacement engine speak volumes: A rated power output of 730 hp / 537 kW at 5,100 rpm is just as extraordinary as a peak torque of 1,320 Nm at just 2,100 rpm. In the car peak torque is limited electronically to 1,100 Nm.
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09-27-2007, 08:14 AM
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Jay does'nt the CL600 and the CL65(tranny upgraded internally by AMG) have different trannies?
However,If I were Frank I would call Brabus to find out what turbo's and manifolds they use on their CL600 6.3l 600.
Call Brabus? I can only imagine how much they want for their turbos. They are the most expensive tuners out there. Have you see the Brabus packages for the E55?
And Frank this is the only way your gonna have a Luxury car and run low 11's high 10's at 130mph.
Wait until MIR my friend.
However,If I were Frank I would call Brabus to find out what turbo's and manifolds they use on their CL600 6.3l 600.
Call Brabus? I can only imagine how much they want for their turbos. They are the most expensive tuners out there. Have you see the Brabus packages for the E55?
And Frank this is the only way your gonna have a Luxury car and run low 11's high 10's at 130mph.
Wait until MIR my friend.
09-27-2007, 08:19 AM
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:Performance figures of the BRABUS SV12 S Biturbo displacement engine speak volumes: A rated power output of 730 hp / 537 kW at 5,100 rpm is just as extraordinary as a peak torque of 1,320 Nm at just 2,100 rpm. In the car peak torque is limited electronically to 1,100 Nm.
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09-27-2007, 08:28 AM
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Jay does'nt the CL600 and the CL65(tranny upgraded internally by AMG) have different trannies?
However,If I were Frank I would call Brabus to find out what turbo's and manifolds they use on their CL600 6.3l 600.
And Frank this is the only way your gonna have a Luxury car and run low 11's high 10's at 130mph.
However,If I were Frank I would call Brabus to find out what turbo's and manifolds they use on their CL600 6.3l 600.
And Frank this is the only way your gonna have a Luxury car and run low 11's high 10's at 130mph.
09-27-2007, 08:33 AM
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I dont believe everything i see in the press if that makes any sense....I know for a fact that both trannies have issues at a certain point and both are weak point, what the actual differences are i dont know if any. I have heard of these brabus cars but has anyone actually seen one, id hate to think this engine combo described above doesnt exist but if it did it should make 900-1000hp and twist that tranny into a pretzel.
I have heard of the Brabus E55s as well and have yet to see one post impressive performance #s.
09-27-2007, 08:45 AM
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09-27-2007, 08:55 AM
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I dont believe everything i see in the press if that makes any sense....I know for a fact that both trannies have issues at a certain point and both are weak point, what the actual differences are i dont know if any. I have heard of these brabus cars but has anyone actually seen one, id hate to think this engine combo described above doesnt exist but if it did it should make 900-1000hp and twist that tranny into a pretzel.
I'm sure someone creative could use some sort of launch control via boost controller to soften the launch.
09-27-2007, 09:16 AM
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This has happened only a handful of times and yes usually on launch with DR's but its so infrequent that i dont want to attenuate the boost, my car needs that TQ on launch to get off of the line, Id rather go the other direction and remove the load limits totally and then reinforce the tranny. thoughts.....
09-27-2007, 09:21 AM
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This has happened only a handful of times and yes usually on launch with DR's but its so infrequent that i dont want to attenuate the boost, my car needs that TQ on launch to get off of the line, Id rather go the other direction and remove the load limits totally and then reinforce the tranny. thoughts.....
09-27-2007, 09:55 AM
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Enjoyed the vid. Hope that was an experienced driver in the Z06, because from personal experience, dragin' with a manual from a start takes lots and lots of practice. Couldn't really tell, was it from a 3mph roll or from a complete stop?
09-27-2007, 03:00 PM
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Good Showing SleerperX
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5TIFbt87Wg
This is a run vs. a 625hp Lingenfelter Z06. When I hit 2nd gear, I thought I might have had him, but then my car looks as if it fell on its face in third gear as the Z06 pulled on me.
This is a run vs. a 625hp Lingenfelter Z06. When I hit 2nd gear, I thought I might have had him, but then my car looks as if it fell on its face in third gear as the Z06 pulled on me.
Didn't even realise that youguys captured it on video. Thanks again for coming out.
That was one amazing run from my vantage point watching you guys take off.
The Z-06 owner is a long time firend of mine and knows how to launch his car very well. has extensive experience tracking it.
But its pulling power in 2nd and 3rd is monsterous.
You hung in there well......
Remember Ligenfelter gets all this performance from intake and exhaust , no forced induction on this particular conversion which is very impressive for that HP of 615!!!!
Here's the video from the M6 Board of the M6 convertible's enounter with the Ligenfelter just before your run
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRWZygfP1m8
09-27-2007, 03:01 PM
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I think that record (if it is true) could be in jeopardy considering our line up.
09-27-2007, 03:25 PM
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Man thats what happand to ME if you remeber I've posted a video with LPE Z06...We we both runned on 2nd I had a jump them he started to pull hard on ME...We I runned 2nd and he 1st then he runned anay immdiately...Z06 has tall gearing...
09-27-2007, 05:13 PM
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Frank I jsut watch your video and I msut say...When I race from a dig LPE ZO6 I am in front till like half of the 1/4 track...Did you launch OK and was LPE doing rolling start...LPE cant go as fast as e55 from a dig...
Here we launch from 2nd gears...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60wzI...elated&search=
We need VRUS to get SL65...then it will happand...but rightnow I happy with my 55 and there a lots of mods that I havent done...I will go to the end...I think we can get 750HP at the crank without TT and NOS...
Here we launch from 2nd gears...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60wzI...elated&search=
We need VRUS to get SL65...then it will happand...but rightnow I happy with my 55 and there a lots of mods that I havent done...I will go to the end...I think we can get 750HP at the crank without TT and NOS...
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09-27-2007, 05:20 PM
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I dont believe everything i see in the press if that makes any sense....I know for a fact that both trannies have issues at a certain point and both are weak point, what the actual differences are i dont know if any. I have heard of these brabus cars but has anyone actually seen one, id hate to think this engine combo described above doesnt exist but if it did it should make 900-1000hp and twist that tranny into a pretzel.
I think there perhaps is not interest but does not mean it can't be done. Who-ever thought about the mods we now have that are not marketed for the E55 compressors? Was not kleemann or anyof the other major tuners
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09-27-2007, 07:14 PM
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09-27-2007, 07:17 PM
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Also you did not say it was impossible. You only mentioned the tranny being the possible limiter.
Built internals never hurt nobody! But Jason you know as well as I do that these cars (V12) can be built to put out 800rwhp with the right mods. Even if that means reinforcing the tranny. Especially if the V8 can make 5 to 600+ rwhp.
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