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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TREZ63
I was 16

The number is still on my car, car wash is closed due to fires.
If you were really 16, then here is how you did against me. Can you say trap speed?
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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If you were really 16, then here is how you did against me. Can you say trap speed?

Hey Jangy ,

I really appreciate the breakdowns you are doing.. This guy actually beat you out of the hole a few times which was where you were killing the 63's. I beat you out when I red lighted LOL, dam 4 all my experience I sure drove crappy. Guess I figured my 6 lb battery would give me a huge edge.


The races vs car 16 are really competitive.

one was decided by 2/100th's of a second , uh thats real close. what car was this the E550 or the M3?

Once again my apologies to you for our spat and hope to see you on 11/09/2007, maybe you can bring more of the San Diego crew. Flippin Greg had a ridiculous trap speed, wonder what he did
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jangy
If you were really 16, then here is how you did against me. Can you say trap speed?
I ran 15 time all day and against you 3 times. Each time I ran with you the car was very hot and not after being iced, that's why it matters to compare your best times and not just head to head runs. If that was the case then it would never matter to post best times on any website cause they didn't go head to head with you

Oh and you had a tiny margin on me each time, I wouldn't say you walked me. And the video knows best, you got the jump and I pulled on you all the way to the finish.

ON TOP OF ALL THAT, you shouldn't be comparing your car to mine anyway, your car needs to be compared to the E63, my car is supposed to be slower than the E63 (an I believe that it is). But even then, posting my best slip, I beat your best trap and your best 1/4 mile time. I don't know if there is really anything else of material importance.

Going by your logic, if a funny car runs 5 second 1/4 miles, but you go head to head and the guy misses his cue and and spins out and some how you beat him then your car is faster. The head to head only comparison is your last resort and I command your for sticking to it but it's just making you look like a - baby. But if it's that important to you Jangster, your car is faster and quicker than all of our 63s .
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
Hey Jangy ,

Guess I figured my 6 lb battery would give me a huge edge.

DUDE!! That battery is a funky setup. I gotta look into 10 of them.

The races vs car 16 are really competitive.

Competitive, but consistent (I won all, no?)

one was decided by 2/100th's of a second , uh thats real close. what car was this the E550 or the M3?

Trez claims it was him.

Once again my apologies to you for our spat and hope to see you on 11/09/2007, maybe you can bring more of the San Diego crew. Flippin Greg had a ridiculous trap speed, wonder what he did
No spat. I wanted to clear the air because we hit it off well in person. I'm just gonna talk smack here and it isn't personal.

Dude, I think G's ride flies. I bet Roger loves to read this, but ask G if having 19s didn't make a HUGE difference (just like I said).

I love that you guys all put the effort into DRs and go 18s.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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riginally Posted by juicee63
Hey Jangy ,



The races vs car 16 are really competitive.

Competitive, but consistent (I won all, no?)


actually headsup from what you posted you lost 2/3 to car 16......He actually beat you at your own game...the launches and lights, your car was likely fatsr but he got the Margin of Victory from what I can see. all three races were really close
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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A fair assumption???

Guy's what's the take away from the day...that stock for stock the 55's have the early jump then the 63's pull ahead?
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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Guy's what's the take away from the day...that stock for stock the 55's have the early jump then the 63's pull ahead?
There is no doubt that the E55 jumps out better than most. Getting lower 60s should not be too hard. Once running, the 63 pulls hard and the gears keep the revs up there. I don't know if my car was running proper at the top or not, but I'd guess that a 63 will pull past 100. I basically jumped most runs, then by about 80ish it would start to get even, and at about 100 the 63 would blast IF he got a good launch. I have the videos,and I'll show what i mean. If they got a good jump, they have a very good trap.
As for the head to head racing, it is all driver. Either car is good enough to hold a lead if you can get that jump.
On the 1/4 et times, the stocks were very close. I never did the ice thing to see what a cold lap would do, but I basically sat at 13 all day until it cooled off, where I dug into the just sub 13s. My traps were 107 until the end, when they rose to 108. Actually, I should post the times for all the parameters on all my 54 runs. I definitely improved all day at a consistent pace. Even my traps were climbing at the end. That is why I take pride over the 63s. They were dying off after even 5 runs.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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#31.. Hey, I just heard that if I turn off my A/C I would run faster?
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RJC
Guy's what's the take away from the day...that stock for stock the 55's have the early jump then the 63's pull ahead?
Here is another way of looking at it since Jangy's car seemed to go flat.

Phils 55 with a cooling mod and large TB, ran 12.61-12.9@110-114. The 63's stock ran from 12.72-13.0 @109-112.5. Looking at times and traps a better race would have been the modded CLS 63 vs Phils 55, really close in times and traps, slightly less fair but still close would be stock 63 vs Phils lightly modded 55. The stock 55 just was starting races great but just flattened out and was pulled every race. Jangy's car is likely having an issue effecting his trap speeds , so really you can throw this day out with the bath water. Greg's E63 showed significant improvement from 9/21-10/26, I believe he increased his trap by 4 mph and stayed out of the 13's. Maybe Phil could scan some of his slips and we could compare his best run with the best stock 63 slip. This would really tell the story as we know Phils car was doing better up top. The other two 55's as usual are .7-1.0 faster and trapping 4-5 mph faster. There were many runs where the stock 63 out trapped the stock 55 by 2-4 mph. By the end the 63 was trapping 109 to the 55 108 so hot lapping definately effected the 63's more
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rarfinancial
#31.. Hey, I just heard that if I turn off my A/C I would run faster?
OMG, comon bro!!! they will throw you out fer that as water leaks onto the track, man next time we are gonna roll together so I can walk you through this . :-).. Dam man your car must be real fast if you were running AC and pulling 12.65@113.44.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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Na , Just kidding, it was off.. I knew I'd get you with that one. Just like the 325
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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Have you ever thought that Jangys car was heat soaked from the beginning?
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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Have you ever thought that Jangys car was heat soaked from the beginning?
interesting? But he did go to lunch and take a break....something was wrong , hopefully next time he will sit around with us and let his car coooooool. Jrock man that Vette was far from stock so do not run out and purchase a C6 just yet. BOLT ons made it close to you. Im setting you up to race him , LOL.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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is it just me, or we both have number 16?
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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it was already mentioned and everyone just glossed over it...jangy was running with no air tubes. this means his car was sucking in hot air from the exhaust manifolds, radiators, and engine itself. to me that's an extremely obvious reason why his car would go flat once it started moving.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 001kz
is it just me, or we both have number 16?
What a buncha idiots..was your E550 trapping 106? Do you have time slips against car #58?

I think the runs are Tans cause he is hitting 13 seconds at 107?

Please let us know asap..LOL, thanks for the detective work..
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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What a buncha idiots..was your E550 trapping 106? Do you have time slips against car #58?

I think the runs are Tans cause he is hitting 13 seconds at 107?

Please let us know asap..LOL, thanks for the detective work..

yeah...the only run i had with car#58, and i remember it was one of the first runs i did. so on the data sheet the first time is mine. everything closer to 13 is not mine.

cuz 13.6 is the best i had that day on 550
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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As nice a track as the speedway was, they have a bunch of tards working the place. I can't believe they numbered our cars the same. IDIOTS!. This explains why Jangy thinks he beat me lol I guess the 55 is more comprable to the 550 than the 63 . Hahaha, J/K don't get your panties in a bunch.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TREZ63
As nice a track as the speedway was, they have a bunch of tards working the place. I can't believe they numbered our cars the same. IDIOTS!. This explains why Jangy thinks he beat me lol I guess the 55 is more comprable to the 550 than the 63 . Hahaha, J/K don't get your panties in a bunch.
i cant believe i didnt notice your car having the same number as mine. i was right there many times, i even took pictures of the car. OMG

and we were right there next to each other in the line couple of times. and none of us noticed.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rarfinancial
#31.. Hey, I just heard that if I turn off my A/C I would run faster?
Here's our only run....
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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yeah...the only run i had with car#58, and i remember it was one of the first runs i did. so on the data sheet the first time is mine. everything closer to 13 is not mine.

cuz 13.6 is the best i had that day on 550
You and I ran?
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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You and I ran?
yes, one time.

you tires were spinning on the 2ng gear like crazy, i remember that. cuz i was like WOW.
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Originally Posted by TREZ63
As nice a track as the speedway was, they have a bunch of tards working the place. I can't believe they numbered our cars the same. IDIOTS!. This explains why Jangy thinks he beat me lol I guess the 55 is more comprable to the 550 than the 63 . Hahaha, J/K don't get your panties in a bunch.

Here, let me try visuals, since you aren't so good with numbers....
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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yes, one time.

you tires were spinning on the 2ng gear like crazy, i remember that. cuz i was like WOW.

Must have been the first few runs. I was rubbing on the left rear. the offset sucks on those rims and I had it dumped.
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
it was already mentioned and everyone just glossed over it...jangy was running with no air tubes. this means his car was sucking in hot air from the exhaust manifolds, radiators, and engine itself. to me that's an extremely obvious reason why his car would go flat once it started moving.
Keep in mind he was running DragRadails. And as far as i know none of the 63's except juice had pliot cups or aftermaket tires.

Drag radails are good for a few thousands out of the gate and it adds from there.
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