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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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It ran that lap time at the Nurburgring on CUT SLICKS. Im willing to bet these 0-60 and 1/4 times were on some sort of slicks too.

Look at this...those rumors were from a translation error. Mizuno is the chief engineer for the GT-R. Also, theres one video that shows the GT-R lapping the Ring and theres a clip of the team putting the wheels on the GT-R. The tread on the wheels matches the run-flat tires perfectly.
"Mizuno claimed a time of 7minutes 38 seconds, compared with 7:43 for a Porsche 911 GT3 and 7:32 for a Carrera GT, but he was anxious to point out that there had been "two wet patches on the circuit." Indeed, he mentioned the "wet patches" so many times that you wondered why Nissan simply hadn't waited for a dry day. Mizuno reckoned that a time of around 7:30 should have been possible in the dry, but that going much faster would have required hand-cut slicks, which isn't "real world." Bizarrely, Nissan admitted to having different test drivers for different lapping. While Chief Test Driver Toshio Suzuki operates in the 7:30-7:40 range, his right-hand man is a 7:40-7:50 man."
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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OK..thanks...The car are much cheaper in US...so I might get one from US or Canada...so my dealer know nothing about it...I need the rear saet also for my kids...

When will the dealers have all the specs, options and prices ???

If I order one from your dealer I will get it next summer ???
My dealer also has no information at all. As soon as we can take order and as soon as I find out any info, I'll keep you posted man
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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You name it i've had it or got it...
most dealers won't take deposits because they don't have enough info yet. they have lists...but no deposits from what i have been told. i slipped my guy some money to make sure i'm #1...
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Trap of 149 at 11.7.

Perhaps mid track something special happens.

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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianStallion
My dealer also has no information at all. As soon as we can take order and as soon as I find out any info, I'll keep you posted man
Thank you...
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianStallion
Look at this...those rumors were from a translation error.

What rumors and translation errors?

HONED AT THE 'RING

GTR chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno told PistonHeads that his baby had covered over 3000 miles at the Nordschleife and avoided other circuits as they were deemed 'too easy'.

Nissan's original target was to beat the 911 Turbo at the 'ring but they ended up worrying the Porsche Carrera GT.

They didn't beat the GT's 7min 32sec lap time, but got a 7.38 in semi-wet conditions.

'We used cut slick tyres' said Mizuno.

'I was not interested in full slick times as this bears no resemblance to a road tyre. 1.2G of force was being pulled in wet and over 2 in dry'.
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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Once again...

The prize for the most surreal pre-show show went to Nissan, which unveiled the new GT-R in a hastily modified underground car park. So much has already been said and written about this car that the unveil was hardly a shock, but Project Chief Kazutoshi Mizuno still had some interesting nuggets to share. Plus, we got to see the supercar in red.

Much is being made of the car's lap time at the famous Nurburgring Nordschleife circuit in Germany. Mizuno claimed a time of 7minutes 38 seconds, compared with 7:43 for a Porsche 911 GT3 and 7:32 for a Carrera GT, but he was anxious to point out that there had been "two wet patches on the circuit." Indeed, he mentioned the "wet patches" so many times that you wondered why Nissan simply hadn't waited for a dry day.

Mizuno reckoned that a time of around 7:30 should have been possible in the dry, but that going much faster would have required hand-cut slicks, which isn't "real world." Bizarrely, Nissan admitted to having different test drivers for different lapping. While Chief Test Driver Toshio Suzuki operates in the 7:30-7:40 range, his right-hand man is a 7:40-7:50 man. It's amazing how much the "Ring vernacular" has entered the Japanese psyche.

The GT-R engine will be built in a clean room by a single craftsman, which will limit production to just 1,000 units a month, split among Japan, Europe, the U.S. and the rest of the world. Given that the GT-R promises 911 Turbo performance for Carrera money, we expect to see some frustrated customers at Nissan dealers when the car goes on sale in the U.S. in June 2008. "Instead of asking why our cars are so cheap, ask why our competitors are so expensive," said Mizuno, who revealed that the first GT-R had already been delivered to Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn.

The old R34 GT-R was famed for its easily accessible oversteer, but all the videos of the car from the 'Ring suggested a balance tuned toward understeer. "You cannot compare the old with the new," Mizuno told me. "We have a new control logic to turn the car. This is a supercar you can drive in the snow and the rain. When there were wet patches on the Nurburgring, there was no sawing at the wheel. This is not a maniac car for a limited audience." Whether this has compromised one of the old car's more amusing characteristics remains to be seen.

One other intriguing snippet of information came from the GT-R's chief designer, Hiroshi Hasegawa. I asked whether there had been any plans to produce an Infiniti GT-R and his answer wasn't totally dismissive, admitting that, "going forward there might be some discussions."

Hasegawa also revealed that the blacked-out A-pillar and sloping cabin are "a symbolic theme" that we'll see on other future Nissans. -- Alistair Weaver, European Editor

Edmunds - http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightlin...ory/cat.Nissan
I guess you can either believe Edmunds or Pistonheads...but like I said, even the video shows the tires that the GT-R uses...heres some pics of it


There is a pic where you can see the tread pattern for the GT-R.


And this was taken from a clip of the video showing the GT-R lapping the Nurburgring. Unless Nissan cheated and last minute switched tires to slicks, I don't really have much else to say.

Nissan wanted to show the world what the GT-R could do in its street form, or as Mizuno said, its "real world" performance. That is why they didn't use slicks. Perhaps the rumored Motortrend time of 7:35 was on slicks?
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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My god..this car will be awesome, the more I read about it then more I want one now...
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by E55 RUSS
What ias black edition, premeim and so on...When is V-Spec version coming out ???

Do you know any other details...Please let ME know...Can I buy one from your dealer as well ??? What are the delivery times ???
You can place an order now, but if you want to export from the US, it might not work out. Even some amg cars are not legible to leave the country for a year. Way too many people are buying cars in the USA, and then import them to Europe

I checked UK site, and they still have no dates, so it might be first to appear in Japan, then the US, and only after in Europe. Just bring one from Vladivostok 
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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You can place an order now, but if you want to export from the US, it might not work out. Even some amg cars are not legible to leave the country for a year. Way too many people are buying cars in the USA, and then import them to Europe

I checked UK site, and they still have no dates, so it might be first to appear in Japan, then the US, and only after in Europe. Just bring one from Vladivostok 
I dont want right hand drive one...
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by E55 RUSS
I dont want right hand drive one...
with regaurd to this.
Middle east is also left hand drive............i am also interested in thi s car dare i say it!
just trying to keep my options open
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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I too am very intrigued by what Nissan can do with this GTR.

After some seat time at the wheels of a first year 350Z, I think Nissan is beginning to crack some of the German driving DNA code - but it wasn't quite there yet.

Japanese cars, especially ones like the GTR, can sometimes take on a video game personality that masks some of the driving feel and driver feedback so gloriously abundant in German cars.

If the GTR manages to captures that magic, then I think Nissan and Carolos Ghosn have a serious winner on their hands - just see what Honda/Acura did to revolutionize the supercar/sportscar market with the NSX, I think the GTR has the potential to do for the sports/GT segment.

Wonder what the Porsche engineers have on their boards to counter the potential threat of this GTR??
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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Wonder what the Porsche engineers have on their boards to counter the potential threat of this GTR??
to be honest i love who things are sounding for the GTR but, i think porsche is not really going to worry because even if it loses ont he track to the GTR it will out sell them for simply been called Porsche [brand name holds power]
peopel who want status and sports car genraly only go to named brands so
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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Touché... but you can't forget the beautiful interior finish of a 997 too. I'd get the 997TT before the GTR if it was one or the other for obvious reasons listed as well.

Originally Posted by Zod
to be honest i love who things are sounding for the GTR but, i think porsche is not really going to worry because even if it loses ont he track to the GTR it will out sell them for simply been called Porsche [brand name holds power]
peopel who want status and sports car genraly only go to named brands so
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