MBE50003

i dno why but thats just reallly hard for em to believe but I guess anything is possible. I guess we can flash the 65 series or 600 series and go from there. maybe then those guys can show a stock m5 or m6 beating that too?

jonmartin

they are quick...

TopGun32

very nice!!

give the 335 credit..

but then again its Gustav's event.

Somehow the outcomes in europe does not hold true in North America 100%.




135, Vishnu V2, FMIC, CBE, ... for a daily driver. thats a good idea!

MBE50003

335 gets all the credit in the world. its just most of the drivers feel its a gift sent from the heavens as it will kill any car on the road. and yes Gustav's events always are fishy

Gustav

No, they are not. The E55 got slightly walked by the 335i V2 in the start, but with exhaust as well.

ChicagoX

Joke

MBE50003

Right but that happened on one of your videos...so i dont trust it. personal opinion.

skratch77

are you serious?

This is a inline 6 twin turbo...don't wet your pants when these break 1000whp with bigger turbos like the skylines,supras,and inline 6 M3s from the past.

How hard is it to believe that a modded turbo car kept up with a E55?My friends neon would smoke one,but he dosnt go around posting it could.

Wake up and realise what a inline 6 3.0 is capable of.

your the only one going around saying these BMW gauys are bragging about there cars,We know exactly what an E55 is capable of and wouldnt bother to try and talk it down.

grow some ballz and accept the 335 for what it is.

There is a 335 that just trapped 113.1 with just a tune and a mix of 93 oct and 103 oct and with stock tires.

MBE50003

lol ok go take a look at the e90 forums youll know what im talking about.
Did I EVER not give the car any credit? no sir, that never happened. I almost bought one two weeks ago so you can understand that I do appreciate the work of the car. Its certain owners who feel that the car is just heaven sent thats all I'm saying.
My ***** are just fine as they are thank you for that. All I said was that a gustav video to me is not the most accurate depiction. I, on the other hand, DO IN FACT believe that a certain 335 w/ mods of course was even w/ an M5. never doubted it. the post was about gustav so relax for a second. Also, no one knows the ability of these motors at this point. There is very limited space to upgrade the turbos as well, take that with a grain of salt etc.

skratch77

Of course people on a N54 forum are going to think there car is god,take a peak on the mustang,supra,sti,evo and this very forum and see how the people talk about there cars.

Every thread you post in about the 335 is negative about the car

There is plenty of room down there for bigger turbos,there are two people that have alread upgraded theres.

The gustav video is the truth,He is so pissed it out ran the new M3 that he hasnt even posted the video yet and we are all killing our selvs waiting for it over on e90post.

In a year or two a basic bolt on 335/135 will be in the 400whp range and that is enough power for anything to happen on the streets.

MBE50003

in a year or two?? dude theyre closing RIGHT around there w/ piggybacks and downpipes and stuff. now, putting the power down is their biggest problem. you basically can't go to the track w/o DR's or else they wont hook. cars are fast trust me, i know. again, i almost bought one two weeks ago. i just opted for a different kind of car (less mods available) its only a matter of time til we see the abilitiy of the motor on a stock block and so on. i just dont like the way some people portray the car.
also about the new M3, of course the 335 is faster when modded, and at this point i doubt there are gonna be many stock ones left lol. but the thing about the ///M is the overall drive, not just the straight line speed. 335 wont be able to hang w/ it on a track im sure. (bold statement, but well see)

seeee i dont hate the car. i love em for their performance aspects. styling is a diff issue but thats always personal and ranges from person to person

Jakpro1

Said it before and I will say it again.

Congrats to BMW for putting out a car that with modifications will beat an AMG that was developed.......

IN 2001-2002...

Nocturnal-G

I agree. haha.

jonmartin

I'm pretty sure a 2007 would be the same outcome if i'm not mistaken aren't the new 63's barely faster then the older 55's?

Zod

well here is what i think.

One race alone is not enough to justify the out comes for the two cars.

you see,

You have one race of a E55 and a 335moded.

Now anything can happen in one given race (997TT for example also ). So stating that the out come will always be the same is difficult.

You see what i saw was 335 jumped and after that distance stayed the same to a degree, and then the BMW ended the run and both slowed down. (did you reach the limit? or just decide to stop while you were ahead?)

secondly, there is already a source of info on drag times stating that the moded 335's are not running the same numbers the E55 are archiving, i believe last i heard (could be wrong).

so based on averages no it does not win.

I raced a ZO6 from a light and pulled 3 cars on him, does that mean i win? well technically yes
is my car faster..no!!!

I am very impressed with the 335 and what it is doing with simple mods , and wish all the owners the best
Merc also has a car like this... its called the 600 (v12 twin turbo) and it is evil with ecu upgrade alone! 65 AMG or higher !evil
Makes allot of 55AMG owners think...what if!!!!! and that alone can kill you at night!

and some more !!!! for added Measure (sorry)

stevebez

All I know is when it comes to F/I cars ANYTHING is possible ...

There is one of these in the car park I use , mbe I should invite him to some "liberal driving" ?

I like the look of the 335 ... more of a departure from Bangle ... and for the better.

The coupe could easily get the susp setup of the M3 and handling to boot... but not sure you would even want the M3 susp - I heard they softened it up allot to make a bigger gap for the CSL later on.

But if you think about it, why on earth would you want an M3 over the 335 ???? I dont get it.

TopGun32

I was about to let this slide.. but I don't want people around here thinking a simple piggy back car, with stock tires can run 113. That is not the case.

The car had a FMIC by Helix. It had STREET TIRES.. not STOCK TIRES.. big difference. He does not have stock wheels.

OZ Ultraleggeras-Helix Attache DME Tuner
Helix Front Mount Intercooler-H&R Suspension

also.. the run he pulled 113 trap.. he also had the slower ETA.. 13.5xxx. This means.. it would be beat by a C55.. since he had a poor launch from the start and pull hard on 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear

I give you credit on one thing.. you are right, did have race gas mixed in.

Cooler air temps.. Race Gas.. and the track was getting colder.. so ETA's started to go up.

His Best ETA of the night was a 12.8.

Very nice for a new DME product and FMIC set up.

zumbalak

The major problem with races Gustav is holding is that they always start at 50km/hr, which does not represent anything in real life!

It is not doable in real life.

In US in no highway you can start a race at 50km/hr which is about 31 ml/hr.

In all due respect his races are happening in fantasy worlds, that is why when people film real life experiences they are so much more different than Gustafo's movies.

Why doesn't he start the races at 80km/hr - 50ml/hr for example? Or 30km/hr -- 20ml/hr

Because he knows the outcomes will be so much more different than his setup races that always start at his own term speeds.

IF HE HAS THE GUTS to face the real world,
I call on him,
If he is the man he claims to be
I call on him,
to start the races in at least two different speeds, one at 50km/hr the other at 80km/hr and post both videos and compare it through that. For highway speeds 80km/hr is much more realistic than starting a race at 50km/hr which can never ever happen in any highway in the USA or the Europe for that matter!

SL65amg

I think what he meant was that the supercharged 55 engines and tt 600 and 65 V-12's are all the old SOHC 3-Valve design engines and transmissions that were designed back in 2001 or maybe earlier. The next generation of AMG transmissions and engines with much better power and transmission shift times are right around the corner(i.e. twin-turbo 6.3 V-8's, 6.9 or 7.4 liter twin-turbo V-12's, all DOHC and 4-Valve designs with state of the art trans coming soon), and they will not only level the playing field, but will rip it wide open.

M&M

You see, right there is where your fantasy ends.

Gustav ran the 335 with the e92 at that speed as well. And we all know that the 335 beat the M3. Which was not what Gustav wanted to happen.

After, on the forum they were arguing whethere the M3 should have been in 1st gear or 2nd gear or whatever. It wouldn't have mattered. A modded 335 makes a whole whack of torque rolling at that speed. It actually WASN'T beneficial to Gustav to start the race like that.

So no, none of the events are set up to favour any car. When you want to test the strengths of the cars you go rolling. If you want to test the driver, clutch, tyres, etc you go from the line. But it places a lot of load on a lot of expensive machinery to go standing starts on an abrasive surface.

Surely rolling from 30mph all the way to speed governor the faster car will work its way to the front. It's a long distance they running.

BTW, I'm all for standing starts as well. I believe they did so some with the RS4's.

Gustav

LOL, some is taking this very seriously

I rased the the RS4 also "fro ma dig"

TopGun32

from 30 or 50mph.. or from 80..

I'm glad these events are produced for our enjoyment..

jonmartin

Thats comedy... it lost let it go. I start races at 40mph on the highway all the time. really doesnt make a difference if the 55 was faster it would have pulled but it didn't at any point and the race ended at 250kph like all the other races so get over it.

phatmitzu

+1.
A lost is a lost.

I am a 55k owner myself and have ran with modded 335s before(see the video that I posted last page). When I saw that video with the V2 pulling on the 55k, first thing comes to mind is not to question its credibility or excuses on how the 55k lost, but instead, I busted out my credit card and went shopping.

ChicagoX

Really? On the Gustav101?