Goatspeed

+1 Would headers make us blacklisted?

Jrocket

Nitrous is your only choice.

rarfinancial

Hey looks like I've missed alot here Well lets start with the .12 over stock. Is that stock 1/4 time as per MBZ site or the times we got at the track? Now 2nd,what was the fastest mph stock CLS that day? I was 113.44mph and corrected ? I'll Juicee post that? (117.xx) ? Lets just say that with the ECU and headers I can feel something. At 35-40 mph I can light the tires up with ESP on. IMO the CLS is not a great 1/4 mile car but after 100 mph it comes alive and thats where I think the mods also come to play. My 60 times sucked no ands ifs or buts but when you look at my speed ? My car is fast just past that 1/8 mile mark. But wait till 11/30 I think the car will come to life. I mean that was my first time at the drag strip can't wait to get back. I think someone has something up thier sleeve

TREZ63

there is no doubt at all your car is faster than stock. None whatsoever. I was there and saw the numbers myself. the questions is, is the gain marginal at best and if so is it worth getting blacklisted? and is it really worth the $$?
I guess only time will tell.

buckeyewalt

I hate to say it, but you might have something here.......is it "really" worth the extra tenths just to have a fast street car, but to loose the warranty in place of it?? I would love having a car that would be really fast......but on the other hand is it really worth it.....my priorties say "no".....at least something that MB could not detect......you guys helped me to get my mind on $$$$ and cents instead of times..........THANKS.........I will be satisfied for now knowing that I do have a car capable of the performance that we speak of. The bottom line is the " speed costs money.........how fast do you want to go". . . . . .

rarfinancial

I look at it this way, If I race at the drag strip and wreck my car will my insurance cover it? Maybe maybe not If I blow my motor will MBZ cover it? Maybe maybe not We go to race because we love it, it makes us feel good, we have fun, which is what life is all about. I really don't worry if I'm the fastest or the slowest as long as I get the thrill of the race. If I blow something up I would have a blast putting it back together and I would not want a dealer putting it back together I have said this before "Hey, it's only money" have some fun with it. I will have lots of food and water this time Lets have some fun

rarfinancial

Has far as is it worth the $$ HELL YA ! to me it's like a show car. I wish there was more mods to buy. You guys are the ones that got me started Mr Trez with your " Remove the charcoal filter you gain hp" dam you TREZ it's all your fault Look what you started.

juicee63

This should be the one and only 63 MOD, NOS!!! I may do this in 08

I think Rick is my new IDOL, and yes its worth it gaining .1 .2 .3.

My car ran a 12.72@111.20
Rick 12.65 @113.44

This was a real nice run and obviously the HRE's and ECU and headers helped but my 6.5 battery and spare removal also helped lighten my car.

Racing is all about closing the gap, and a stock CLS will run 13's @108-109 at California Speedway.

A seasoned driver with tires and ecu and or weight reduction is 12.6-12.8@110-114.

In Sac we will run 12.2-2.5@116-118

For me and Rick its going to be determined by 1/1000th or maybe a few 100ths. My car will not be stock next time I run

The guys on the Oval spend millions for a few tenths..

.5 in the 1/4 mile is worth alot to me, the difference between a 63 and a 550 MSRP? its about .6 in the 1/4 mile and thats what you pay 4(POWER).

AdamG@NorCal

Rick,

There is one mod you are missing.

Adam

Zod

What makes you say a stock CLS will run that? how many different cls 63's have run there?
and how are you getting these figurers (calculated assumption?)

juicee63

I have seen 6 different cars run at altitude and the average run is 13 seconds at 109 mph at California speedway. This is the average of runs from

9/16/2006
9/21/2007
10/26/2007

Put another way , out of 50 plus passes at California Speedway only 2 runs were sub 12.7 and only one run is 113 plus trap speed.

So a 13 second pass in California at this track is respectable. A 12.7 pass is great and a 12.6 pass is amazing. We shall see if a 12.5 is even possible , it will take great weather and great driving.

Edit: I am mostly seeing CLS 63's so I should clarify. The CLS in general is .1-.3 slower than the E class whether its a 63 or 55. The recent CLS 55 pass has me very optimistic about the CLS and the possibility of keeping pace with the E. Guy hit 12.28@113.98. Once again we see a 113 trap, but this was done at 2500 feet less DA. Hope this helps

rbtronnie5

the best upgrade for a 63 is a 55...heheheh. had to say it....

TREZ63

lol, damn Rick, we're not all ballers like you man, if I blow this biitch I won't be replacing it the next day exactly. It's all about your priorities I guess and your attitude about money. I personally have a great respect for money and preserving it. you wouldn't know it looking at my car payment but that's where I see the indulgence and it took me a good while to make that decision. But yeah, hell, by all means, if you can afford to carry the car if the **** hits the fan then NOS it up with some ECU and headers. Why stop there, replace it with a SL65 so you get a good base car

TREZ63

LOL, dude you don't want to argue the fine points of stock CLS run times with Juicee. He pretty much wrote the book on the AMG drag racing and I would venture to guess he has the record for the most number of runs on anyone on the board. He's also kept very good track of everyone's numbers so he's not talking out of his ***.

Zod

I say this because not many cls 63 (2 or 3) have been running from what I gather meaning the number is not enough to justify a set limit period. Ruining many times in you own car is just that, its 1 car not the rest of the world.
Look at the different times and hp numbers you get from the 55k and you can see there are variances.

So calculations are just that and they are not set in stone. You try and get an avrg of what the cars are running and you can kind of give an avrg for what they will run (this changes vastly when you get more cars running and some that get much higher numbers!).

you have some stock cars ruining moded numbers and vis versa and some that claim they are stock, but they aren't

you can search and find things that have a 5 out of 5 review only to see 1 or 2 people reviewed it giving it that number. If it were to have more it would most likely drop due to avrges been taken.

All in all though its nice to know some data and data changes as it keeps on getting updated

buckeyewalt

I knew it had to come sooner or later....

jangy

+1. Rick does love this stuff.

I may have some of you already on passes. i got 54 in last time

rarfinancial

I think you are all nuts Dam car guys and thier forums see ya on the 30th