RoydRage

OUCH!!!

BUT... I don't know what would happen if he had a WORKED SL65 against the TT.

800Ft Lbs. of Torque?

RoydRage

SleeperX

Nice.. Although something tells me that the Protomotive in that video will be no match for a properly tuned Skyline. I am hearing 800-1000hp is achievable with the Sklyine motor. And its AWD..

chiromikey

yep...and it will arguably out handle any porsche as well!

definitely NOT a sleeper though. we valeted outside of kona grill yesterday and there was a crowd taking pictures around his r34 while completely ingnoring a 996tt, bright red 348, and others. the funniest thing was the fcar owner had to ask people to move to get to his car.

SleeperX

Interesting. My only concern with getting the new Skyline is the appearance. My thinking is that most valets will think it is a 350Z and ask me to park it around back as oppose to in front of the club.

chiromikey

nah, i'm not a fan of the looks of the new gt-r either...it's got to be the r34.

m52e55

tough choice. if go 996tt, consider sending to sharkwerks here in Bay Area. friend just had his 997tt tuned to ~615 hp; they are fanatics there and high-quality workmanship. good luck-choice sounds like a very quality problem.

DFW01E55

Sleeper, if ride quality and comfort are an issue pick the SL.
If the "feel" of the car matters and you can take advantage of the more precise handling, take the 996.

And hey, don't forget that the roof goes down on the SL.

Good luck.

cte430

Well, if you're thinking 997TT than by all means. May not have the crazy HP yet that the 996 has but chipped and exhaust is pretty quick. As I and others have said the interior is night and day different. Check enough options boxes and you'll be hard pressed to find a better interior anywhere.

Also, if you want to mod, there's no reason to send to sharkwerks (or anywhere far away for that matter). There's plenty of good tuners around here. It's an exhaust and a chip - not that difficult.

If you want to drive mine to see if you would be comfortable let me know.

rflow306

I never really liked the the looks of the r34 either, definitely nicer than the r32's which just looked like nicer 240's imho.

There are alot of guys with r32,33 and even 34 engines in their 240's in South Florida and from my understanding making 800 to 1000 hp will require way more than RB26DETT 'Z1' internals to be reliable.


Back on topic my vote is for the heavy Merc that everyone you race will underestimate but that's just me. I can just picture it now a 65 with thin gt40r's.

blackbenzz

That would be insane! Twin GT30R's are capable of 1000hp, cant imagine twin GT40r's!

ROCKETW19

Sleeper I would go with the SL black series.lol sl65 is fine but if you do go with the P-car Evotec is dying to show what they can do with the P-cars i know Adam will hook you up to show off what it can do. I know this cuzz he offered it to me. I hope that wasnt a secret Adam

V12Godspeed

+1000...LOL!! This is what I have been saying all along...Watch out!!! I could see the headlines now..."CL65 a heavyboat walks Protomotives P-car"

Check out the CL hanging out with the P-car Ruf R turbo... Imagine if it would have been an SL, bit lighter...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duWSpVC1HbU

Check out the SL65 hanging out with a P-car 650HP...not bad for a heavy convertible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLNuZzW4Ki0

SleeperX

Nice. I love watching videos like that. The guy in the SL probably had the seat reclined and was very comfortable whereas the Pcar owner might have been breaking a sweat trying not to miss a gear and shift at the right point.

MidniteBluBenz

The SL65 is still an awesome choice, but if you want serious horsepower, you need the ability to put power down to all four wheels.

Therefore I vote Porsche. 139mph trap.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=idx0DtzzJIE

JAYCL600

Ben Treynor owns both of these cars, thats him in his 997 racing a female in his SL65, I believe this is before his turbo upgrade and I think he traps 130 now, most 997tt's with exhaust and chip and modded VTG turbos run high high 10's for less then 10gs.....FYI the only car to walk me on the street so far was a 997tt with just chip and exhaust. Trust me guys I want the benz with the 140mph trap speeds, I have gone far with this current platform and have helped fabricate my own parts, but iam impatient and at a stumbling block right now. A 65/600 to compete with these pcars right now its just theory.....

stevebez

That is a VERY tough choice.

Thing is you want to modd - OK both are good for that.
Daily driver and comfortable? Has to be the SL, the 996 is a bone rattler.
Need for speed? 996 will be quicker when modded and outhandle the SL by a large margin.

So its 1-1 ... then there is price... 996 all in will be much less $$$.

So its 2-1 to the Porsche, but make sure you can live with it as a DD.

You should maybe consider the 997 as its a better ride as a DD and bigger performance upgrades for it will come over time and possibly exceed what they get out of the 996's ...

Will you track the car? ... then P car for sure.
Do you need kiddy seats ? ... then P car for sure.

Thats kinda where I am at.... I have been thinking of giving beast to wife and me getting a toy - only need one family car. The F430 is more of an occasion car but no kiddy seats kinda kills it .. but still not sure as I will have one super fast family car anyhow. Gallardo ? Hear some TT setups on that available too.

Ferk - dont think I am helping now so i'll shut up.

ItalianStallion

Its funny how I'm in almost the same exact boat as you are Frank, just I'm targeting spring time and I have less $ than you

- R34 Skyline GT-R: Its illegal in the US, its as rare as they come, offers amazing potential, very expensive to mod, awd, expensive for an old car, hard time finding one. It's good if you wanted the ultimate tuner car, but not as a daily driver. But the RB26DETT is a ridiculous engine, lets leave it at that.
- R35 GT-R: I was the first on the list for it, had it guaranteed at MSRP by Rockland Nissan. They called up and BSed about how they can only give it to me for $20k over sticker. After proving it to them in black and white they then said "well we're not even getting any." Rather than going through court and putting up with a slimey dealership, I just asked for my deposit back. Sucks 'cause I had high hopes for that car, oh well.
- 996TT: Great looks, proven drivetrain, very cool community, handling that wrecks any Benz, potential up to 1000hp (see guys like Markski on 6speed). With that said, interior is ok, the ride quality is pretty harsh, not very roomy, and its a stick vs auto. Another thing is that its already been done, you can find dozens of 650hp+ turbos in Jersey and LI. Not to mention that to mod these things it looks like you have to spend in between $25-40k...thats a lot of dough. I posted a thread on the 996TT forum over at 6speed and the majority reccomends that I buy a Porsche thats already been tuned, it'll save a ton of money.
- SL65: Prestige, top of the line, convertible, 2 seater, comfortable as hell, heavy, torque monster. Handling ain't that great, they've never been pushed past just basic boltons and ECU tuning so you'd be the first. Could be a groundbreaking experience or a nightmare. Who knows how much money you'd have to spend too considering everything will be custom fabricated and you'd be experimenting. If you suceed then you'll only increase your legend I'm personally very interested in a CL65 since I'd like the back seats.
- Z06 Vette: Yeah, I know, its American and its been done over countless times...but if you want the ultimate in performance you could always pick up one of these and mod it to your hearts content. Best handling, best acceleration, looks hot, crap interior, crap ride quality, cheap car with inexpensive mods.
- M6: Great top end, gorgeous car, very cool interior, sweet 7 speed SMG, high revving V10. Torqueless, expensive, n/a means very little modding options. You can do boltons and tune and get it to the 550hp range and put a 150 shot of nitrous- 700hp? But I'd rather get there without nitrous so I think that getting this wouldn't be any better than your current car.

Believe me man, this is very hard. Luckily, I'm sitting back and got a couple of months before I gotta make that life altering decision lol. Good luck man.

Maybe Dragon could chime in on here since he went from a moddd E55K to a modded 996TT?

cte430

sleeper, you may have just answered your own question. If being reclined and comfy (LOL) is what you're after then the benz. If you want a bit more "involvement" than the pcar.

The pcar is obviously harder to extract it's capabilities than the benz but it can be very rewarding. It can also be very docile and easy when you want it to be.

ItalianStallion

Ok, F*** everything I just posted. After seeing this car I'd say 996TT FTW! I'm amazed at how you can get a car thats worth about 65k that had over 30k put into it and still get it for about 70k. If only this way a couple of months from now, I'd be all over that car...

intellilogic

IMO, sport or lux? there is so many little features an SL65 is going to offer you that a 911 won't, but the 911 is AWD and can do so much sport the SL won't... so... for a 1 car, everyday driver, I would honestly go with the SL65 - lux features, still sport and not to mention hard top convert! +++ after you get moving off the line, SL65 is REALLY fast, I had one blow me away, we started @ speed limit on a 45mph RD, prob doin 50 and he DESTROYED ME! (like out of ****ing sight - but he might not have been stock) So practicality vs. funfactor...

EDIT: Oh, if this is NOT your ONLY car, 911.

BiTurboAmg

tough call and two different cars. If yor getting a 6spd 996tt then I would say the sl will be more consistent in races. Also the sl is maxed out after ecu tune which is 3-4k to get a 996tt to hang with a tuned sl65 you NEED the evoms stg4 (600hp) which is 10-12k. so you may get the car cheper but the cost to mod will be more. There is a guy here with a 2005 turbo s with the evo stg pkg and when we race we run even untl 120-130 or from a dig who ever gets the jump wins. the sl is a blast but the p cars have WAY more potential to go fast with evo and the gt 850 kit but at a cost of 50k plus. Good luck and go drive both cars and see what you like. My tuned sl65 (583whp) has beat the 996 turbo s gt600 and also a 500whp c6 z06. the z06 just added cams and got 543whp and is now faster again. the sl is the sleeper for sure.

AMGNSX996TT

My stage4 996TT is pure driving fun. On the other hand, my SL55 serves purely as my drop top. The new 997TT Cab which just the Giac Flash is the best of both worlds.

user 76208202

I look at it like this: You want speed, get the GT-R. Ya it's a Nissan, Ya it's not as good soundin as having a Pcar but it will be a beast. And the 996 is outdated and has a inferior interior. The 997 would be nice for a DD but won't be as fast as the GT-R. The SL would get my vote....do you really need the power of the GT700? I mean if it's your DD then i don't think you will be getting on that car all that much. The SL is a MB, it's has the luxury features you need and it looks good and is quicker than most cars on the road.

MB_Forever

SL65 RennTech Stage 2+

E55 RUSS

996 GT800+ or Nissan GT-R and mod it...all depedns on the money...If no money is no object then 997 TT + mods...