DoctorMax or pitbr & I have agreed to settle this transaction:
That sir is impossible.
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ENDSMTG: not to reveal any details, I have been in High Technology for 30 years. I was an early on employee at Cisco Systems where we actually developed the infrastructure the internet is built on. I also have worked for a well known Security Company called ISS. We stopped the Red Chinese in 2006 from hacking into General Dynamics "Black Projects" area when no other security Company could do so. That was an unreal project! NSA, and FBI both were involved with our team on this one. I would have loved to see the faces of the hackers over there when we stopped them in their tracks and redirected their efforts to a black hole. IP is a hectic world and now Telephony is embracing it too. Anyway, this whole IP thing has created a bonanza for Hackers, scammers and the like. Our motto at ISS was to stay one step ahead and be totally pre-emptive. I still use one of their products that was derived from an older product of theirs called "Black Ice" it is now called Proventia Desktop. It has 5 layers of desktop protection (I won't go into what each is. Download for free on ISS's website (IBM bought ISS about a year + ago!)
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I have seen a few here and there
Yeah! Plenty of aliens on these boards especially after the "Bluemax" tragedy. The one post wonders and their emotional knee jerk reactions really amazed me!
Generally the "Rush to Judgement" crowd feeding on the Media circus with no regards for the families of thoses affected or even the integrity of the memberes here!
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Yeah! Plenty of aliens on these boards especially after the "Bluemax" tragedy. The one post wonders and their emotional knee jerk reactions really amazed me!
Generally the "Rush to Judgement" crowd feeding on the Media circus with no regards for the families of thoses affected or even the integrity of the memberes here!
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I definitely would be willing to help!
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So can I ask while we are on this scammer subject. What would have been the 100% safest way for deaguero to have made this purchase?
Is it still best to try to have it go through your credit card company so that a company like Amex would swing it out for you. On the business side of this, I hear from all my fellow owners that Amex is just vicious to business owners. Buddy of mine was told by an Amex rep when he had a dispute, "Look, a customer could basically buy a new TV from you, take it home and then throw it down the stairs. THEN, come back and tell you he did it, and you STILL need to give him his money back or you'll be dealing with us!!"
Basically why many small business guys don't take Amex by the way.
Just curious on the top question.
Is it still best to try to have it go through your credit card company so that a company like Amex would swing it out for you. On the business side of this, I hear from all my fellow owners that Amex is just vicious to business owners. Buddy of mine was told by an Amex rep when he had a dispute, "Look, a customer could basically buy a new TV from you, take it home and then throw it down the stairs. THEN, come back and tell you he did it, and you STILL need to give him his money back or you'll be dealing with us!!"
Basically why many small business guys don't take Amex by the way.
Just curious on the top question.
01-02-2008, 05:33 PM
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Everybody thinks routing is a scary thing and really tough to understand. To some degree it is, But it really comes down to forwarding the IP packets from their origin to their destination. The IP protocol was the logical follow on to Ethernet invented by Xerox, Digital Equip Corp, and I think IBM too. IBM hedged their bets on a technology called token ring but that quikly fell out of favor kinda like the VHS vs betamax thing. Anyway let me know if I can help!
I am currently studying for my Network+ and Net+ certifications from CompTIA, and all I can say is that the IP subnetting section is a b**ch 
When I reach a road-block, maybe I can give you a call
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So can I ask while we are on this scammer subject. What would have been the 100% safest way for deaguero to have made this purchase?
Is it still best to try to have it go through your credit card company so that a company like Amex would swing it out for you. On the business side of this, I hear from all my fellow owners that Amex is just vicious to business owners. Buddy of mine was told by an Amex rep when he had a dispute, "Look, a customer could basically buy a new TV from you, take it home and then throw it down the stairs. THEN, come back and tell you he did it, and you STILL need to give him his money back or you'll be dealing with us!!"
Basically why many small business guys don't take Amex by the way.
Just curious on the top question.
Is it still best to try to have it go through your credit card company so that a company like Amex would swing it out for you. On the business side of this, I hear from all my fellow owners that Amex is just vicious to business owners. Buddy of mine was told by an Amex rep when he had a dispute, "Look, a customer could basically buy a new TV from you, take it home and then throw it down the stairs. THEN, come back and tell you he did it, and you STILL need to give him his money back or you'll be dealing with us!!"
Basically why many small business guys don't take Amex by the way.
Just curious on the top question.
01-02-2008, 05:35 PM
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Everybody thinks routing is a scary thing and really tough to understand. To some degree it is, But it really comes down to forwarding the IP packets from their origin to their destination. The IP protocol was the logical follow on to Ethernet invented by Xerox, Digital Equip Corp, and I think IBM too. IBM hedged their bets on a technology called token ring but that quikly fell out of favor kinda like the VHS vs betamax thing. Anyway let me know if I can help!
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As a member of the viper Club - I have done transactions using another local member as a financial intermediary. I have also verified information using their club membership information and have done the same for other members - it's better than using an escrow service, although that probably would have been a viable option here, too.
I usually use PayPal for stuff like this - even though that's not particularly effective either.
I'd much prefer a local intermediary.
As a seller - I always provide enough information that someone can "check me out" either giving my eBay ID, Viper club info, etc. to make them feel confident that I am not a scammer, or Nigerian heiress.
Oh- and never ask to send them a check from your 'agent' for slightly over the amount and ask them to send you back the difference.... ha ha.
I usually use PayPal for stuff like this - even though that's not particularly effective either.
I'd much prefer a local intermediary.
As a seller - I always provide enough information that someone can "check me out" either giving my eBay ID, Viper club info, etc. to make them feel confident that I am not a scammer, or Nigerian heiress.
Oh- and never ask to send them a check from your 'agent' for slightly over the amount and ask them to send you back the difference.... ha ha.
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So can I ask while we are on this scammer subject. What would have been the 100% safest way for deaguero to have made this purchase?
Is it still best to try to have it go through your credit card company so that a company like Amex would swing it out for you. On the business side of this, I hear from all my fellow owners that Amex is just vicious to business owners. Buddy of mine was told by an Amex rep when he had a dispute, "Look, a customer could basically buy a new TV from you, take it home and then throw it down the stairs. THEN, come back and tell you he did it, and you STILL need to give him his money back or you'll be dealing with us!!"
Basically why many small business guys don't take Amex by the way.
Just curious on the top question.
Is it still best to try to have it go through your credit card company so that a company like Amex would swing it out for you. On the business side of this, I hear from all my fellow owners that Amex is just vicious to business owners. Buddy of mine was told by an Amex rep when he had a dispute, "Look, a customer could basically buy a new TV from you, take it home and then throw it down the stairs. THEN, come back and tell you he did it, and you STILL need to give him his money back or you'll be dealing with us!!"
Basically why many small business guys don't take Amex by the way.
Just curious on the top question.
Cool
, I wonder if AMEX could throw Pitabr in to a burning 100,000 sqft.warehouse. and still get deaguero a refund. Now that would be fraud protection.
01-02-2008, 05:48 PM
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Everybody thinks routing is a scary thing and really tough to understand. To some degree it is, But it really comes down to forwarding the IP packets from their origin to their destination. The IP protocol was the logical follow on to Ethernet invented by Xerox, Digital Equip Corp, and I think IBM too. IBM hedged their bets on a technology called token ring but that quikly fell out of favor kinda like the VHS vs betamax thing. Anyway let me know if I can help!
Kidding:
I just want you to get your money back from this guy. Please keep us posted on how it turns out. I join the rest of the guys in our willingness to put together a group who shall apply some, shall we say, "AMG Vigilante Justice."
Thanks
Kris
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ENDSMTG: not to reveal any details, I have been in High Technology for 30 years. I was an early on employee at Cisco Systems where we actually developed the infrastructure the internet is built on. I also have worked for a well known Security Company called ISS. We stopped the Red Chinese in 2006 from hacking into General Dynamics "Black Projects" area when no other security Company could do so. That was an unreal project! NSA, and FBI both were involved with our team on this one. I would have loved to see the faces of the hackers over there when we stopped them in their tracks and redirected their efforts to a black hole. IP is a hectic world and now Telephony is embracing it too. Anyway, this whole IP thing has created a bonanza for Hackers, scammers and the like. Our motto at ISS was to stay one step ahead and be totally pre-emptive. I still use one of their products that was derived from an older product of theirs called "Black Ice" it is now called Proventia Desktop. It has 5 layers of desktop protection (I won't go into what each is. Download for free on ISS's website (IBM bought ISS about a year + ago!)
LOL!
Now, on to the search function to figure out what the heck y'all are talking about!
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@deaguero: did you match his IP (pitabr) with the one from DoctorMax? If so, how did you get it without being a mod or admin on this site? just curious, maybe he used the same email or something?
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So can I ask while we are on this scammer subject. What would have been the 100% safest way for deaguero to have made this purchase?
Is it still best to try to have it go through your credit card company so that a company like Amex would swing it out for you. On the business side of this, I hear from all my fellow owners that Amex is just vicious to business owners. Buddy of mine was told by an Amex rep when he had a dispute, "Look, a customer could basically buy a new TV from you, take it home and then throw it down the stairs. THEN, come back and tell you he did it, and you STILL need to give him his money back or you'll be dealing with us!!"
Basically why many small business guys don't take Amex by the way.
Just curious on the top question.
Is it still best to try to have it go through your credit card company so that a company like Amex would swing it out for you. On the business side of this, I hear from all my fellow owners that Amex is just vicious to business owners. Buddy of mine was told by an Amex rep when he had a dispute, "Look, a customer could basically buy a new TV from you, take it home and then throw it down the stairs. THEN, come back and tell you he did it, and you STILL need to give him his money back or you'll be dealing with us!!"
Basically why many small business guys don't take Amex by the way.
Just curious on the top question.
Umm, sorry...back on topic.
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good luck. subnetting is a pain but thank god there are subnetting calculators.
@deaguero: did you match his IP (pitabr) with the one from DoctorMax? If so, how did you get it without being a mod or admin on this site? just curious, maybe he used the same email or something?
@deaguero: did you match his IP (pitabr) with the one from DoctorMax? If so, how did you get it without being a mod or admin on this site? just curious, maybe he used the same email or something?
01-02-2008, 06:36 PM
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Just a suggestion. Cash it at the bank issueing the check instead of your's. That way it can be verified on the spot and if a cancellation notice happens to come afterwards you won't get charges on your regular bank account.
Just a suggestion. Cash it at the bank issueing the check instead of your's. That way it can be verified on the spot and if a cancellation notice happens to come afterwards you won't get charges on your regular bank account.
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Deaguero,
Assuming the physical cheque arrives, get it fingerprinted before you attempt to cash it in the event this incident continues to escalate.
From your other thread, there are some good arguments for mail fraud and if he doesn't deliver, you will give better evidence for a US Postal Inspection Service investigation.
If someone tried to pull this on me, I would be gunning to ensure he gets a cellie named Dexter who doesn't use lube.
Assuming the physical cheque arrives, get it fingerprinted before you attempt to cash it in the event this incident continues to escalate.
From your other thread, there are some good arguments for mail fraud and if he doesn't deliver, you will give better evidence for a US Postal Inspection Service investigation.
If someone tried to pull this on me, I would be gunning to ensure he gets a cellie named Dexter who doesn't use lube.
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Deaguero,
Assuming the physical cheque arrives, get it fingerprinted before you attempt to cash it in the event this incident continues to escalate.
From your other thread, there are some good arguments for mail fraud and if he doesn't deliver, you will give better evidence for a US Postal Inspection Service investigation.
If someone tried to pull this on me, I would be gunning to ensure he gets a cellie named Dexter who doesn't use lube.
Assuming the physical cheque arrives, get it fingerprinted before you attempt to cash it in the event this incident continues to escalate.
From your other thread, there are some good arguments for mail fraud and if he doesn't deliver, you will give better evidence for a US Postal Inspection Service investigation.
If someone tried to pull this on me, I would be gunning to ensure he gets a cellie named Dexter who doesn't use lube.
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Based on Deaguero's public address of La Qunita....
http://local.yahoo.com/results?stx=F...tfilt=96925931
There are private services available. I don't know the rules of evidence for Cali but if you ask, I am sure they will know the process, i.e. affidavit etc....
Go for the throat.
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i had to learn all that last year, binary colums, hosts per subnet, etc. dont worry , it all goes away for a while, until the cert exam and then in the real world. you will have a few months of peace. in the cisco curriculum switching comes after subnetting so that was like a vacation, dont know whats next.
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way to go Phil, hope you're golf game isn't as good as you at finding people...
we still need to meet and play next time I'm down there for business... which may be soon!
we still need to meet and play next time I'm down there for business... which may be soon!
