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Old 01-09-2008, 08:42 PM
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DIY Quaife Install

Here's what I've got so far. I'm still waiting on the Silkolene gear lube arrive, and when it does I'll soak the diff and gears then put it all back together. I won't go into excrutiating detail because if you undertake this project you should already have the appropriate tools, WIS, and good mechanical intuition.

According to WIS, the factory backlash spec is .10-.16mm. The stock diff measured .12mm backlash and I was at .13mm with the Quaife....no shims needed. I used gear marking compound to check the wear pattern as well. All is good.

Jack up car, remove wheel, remove center cap, mount wheel back, lower, loosen axle nut (32mm socket), raise car back up, and remove back half of the exhaust. At some point disconnect the SBC harness under the hood.


Disassemble one side of the suspension. I chose left because it was closed to my workbench but either side is fine. Slide axle out of wheel carrier.


Pry axle out of differential housing.


Disconnect drive shaft, unbolt differential support housing, lower diff some and pry out the other axle.


Now the patient is ready for surgery...


Remove both axle seals.


Remove cover and drain remaining fluid.


Backlash measured on stock differential. (I did this just to make sure)


Once the seals are removed you'll see the bearing races held in with big *** circlips. Remove them.


Next remove the bearing races. I used a strong magnet for this.


Do this on the other side as well and turn out the stock diff.


Mount stock diff in bench vise and remove ring gear.


Here's the stock compared to the Quaife.


Transfer the ring gear and install new bearings.


Clean the case and prep for the new unit.


Install Quaife, new bearing races, and circlips. Make sure you don't block the lube hole in the circlip groove.


Quaife installed. Check backlash. Mine was within spec. No shims required.


As additional check I applied gear marking compound on several areas so I could read the contact patch. Looks perfect to me.



Once my gear lube arrives I'll prelube all the moving parts, install new axle seals, and button it all up. Then it's just reversing the removal order of all the suspension parts and test drive.

Last edited by MJ50; 04-04-2015 at 05:21 PM. Reason: Additional pics and instructions.
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Very good job, I did the diff removal and install but had someone else do the limited slip. He did not need to shim mine either.
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Same here......Quaife rules!!
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Very nice! Looking forward to your complete DIY.
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it must be nice to be able to replace a diff without the need of a plasma cutter and everything all twisted up inside.
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brian- did you use a 10 bolt or 12 bolt lsd in you car? i am still waiting for the 12 bolt from james art creative.
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Thanks for taking the time to share. I see this in my future!
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The Ultimate Do It Your Self'r. Brian looks great.....

How about I just send my car to you and you can take care of my upgrades for me (Pully, IC, Q LSD, Cams...). It would be a lot cheaper than sending it out to Vadim or Adam.....

When you going to the track with all of those new mods. Your car has got to be an 11.2 to 11.4 car now with everything in it and the right tires.......
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I knew you would end up doing it yourself, this is probably the route I'm going to take, I remember from the other thread you were checking out some shop that was gonna do your install and you must not have been impressed, anyway great job and PLEASE post all pics and some step by step instructions, you are the man and your DIY threads have helped me many times
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brian- did you use a 10 bolt or 12 bolt lsd in you car? i am still waiting for the 12 bolt from james art creative.
12 bolt for sure. I got my replacement early last week. Here's a pic of the 12 bolt unit after new bearing installation.


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I knew you would end up doing it yourself, this is probably the route I'm going to take, I remember from the other thread you were checking out some shop that was gonna do your install and you must not have been impressed, anyway great job and PLEASE post all pics and some step by step instructions, you are the man and your DIY threads have helped me many times
Actually, the other shop I'm sure had the ability to do it but they only had one guy to do the actual work. They had the STAR tool so I would go there for anything requiring that level of diagnosis. After reading WIS and staring at the diff and suspension for a little while, I figured, oh hell, I'll just do it myself. Much better quality control anyway.
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Originally Posted by BrianS
Actually, the other shop I'm sure had the ability to do it but they only had one guy to do the actual work. They had the STAR tool so I would go there for anything requiring that level of diagnosis. After reading WIS and staring at the diff and suspension for a little while, I figured, oh hell, I'll just do it myself. Much better quality control anyway.
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on regular rears the carrier comes out after you take out c-clips, slide out axles, and then take off the main caps that hold the carrier in, I see you installed new carrier bearings, how are they held in the housing, do they slide into the housing one at a time, this is my biggest dilema, the rear not having main caps that hold the carrier assembly in the housing, please explain how the carrier comes out/in
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on regular rears the carrier comes out after you take out c-clips, slide out axles, and then take off the main caps that hold the carrier in, I see you installed new carrier bearings, how are they held in the housing, do they slide into the housing one at a time, this is my biggest dilema, the rear not having main caps that hold the carrier assembly in the housing, please explain how the carrier comes out/in
Just updated the pics. That should answer it.
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Just updated the pics. That should answer it.
I for one really thank you for this thread, I will be installing my Quaife shortly with confidence thanks to this thread, thanks Brian
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10 bolt, 12 bolt.....HEH, it's Chevy all over again!!! (70's Chevy's used 10bolt and 12 bolt rears, but it was the diff cover)
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I for one really thank you for this thread, I will be installing my Quaife shortly with confidence thanks to this thread, thanks Brian
Thanks. More than happy to share my experieces. Besides, in some twisted way I feel like I'm sticking it to the dealers every time I open this thing up.
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wow, way over my head as far as mechanical ability, but very cool to read and see pictures of it all
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The Ultimate Do It Your Self'r. Brian looks great.....

How about I just send my car to you and you can take care of my upgrades for me (Pully, IC, Q LSD, Cams...). It would be a lot cheaper than sending it out to Vadim or Adam.....

When you going to the track with all of those new mods. Your car has got to be an 11.2 to 11.4 car now with everything in it and the right tires.......
Sure, we can probably work something out. I'll get this thing to the track in the Spring and see what happens.
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Thanks. More than happy to share my experieces. Besides, in some twisted way I feel like I'm sticking it to the dealers every time I open this thing up.
the dealers PLEASE
they told me they don't open them up they replace the whole unit, they were clueless on swapping out carriers told me they prefer not to, after seeing these pics the install is very straight forward and honestly very basic, I have set-up rears before and my only hangup was how the carrier was held into the rear, I knew it wasn't a c-clip but I never saw how it was held in without main caps, Brian had the nads to rip his out and show us all, no need for speciality tool to spread case, just a good dial indicator to check the backlash, once the races are removed it will just turn out of the housing, installation of Quaifes' has been a concern on this forum, I believe it to be pretty basic thanks to the info and pics provided on this thread, once again Brian I personally thank you as I needed to see these pics
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on regular rears the carrier comes out after you take out c-clips, slide out axles, and then take off the main caps that hold the carrier in, I see you installed new carrier bearings, how are they held in the housing, do they slide into the housing one at a time, this is my biggest dilema, the rear not having main caps that hold the carrier assembly in the housing, please explain how the carrier comes out/in
On mine I just removed one side of the suspension not both like the wis calls for, then used the Star-diagnostic to deflate the airbag. I could not figure out a way of doing it with-out the star-diag, the bag is under pressure so the minute that it's unbolted from the lower control arm it extends. It would be good to know if BrianS did it another way.

I have the pdf for the wis removal if you need it.
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On mine I just removed one side of the suspension not both like the wis calls for, then used the Star-diagnostic to deflate the airbag. I could not figure out a way of doing it with-out the star-diag, the bag is under pressure so the minute that it's unbolted from the lower control arm it extends. It would be good to know if BrianS did it another way.

I have the pdf for the wis removal if you need it.
The WIS is essential for this definitely. Not sure why it said to remove both sides because it's not necessary at all, but it will drive service hours if that's how it's billed. The WIS usually shows many more steps than necessary to do a job. I put jack stands under the wheel carriers and it rested on those no problem. Airbags expanded and compressed as I jacked and lowered the car. I also unplugged the SBC wiring harness but I'm not sure if there's any correlation between the two.
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I have the pdf for the wis removal if you need it.[/QUOTE]

could you PM it to me or maybe hot link it on this thread, should be a good read
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Originally Posted by BrianS
The WIS is essential for this definitely. Not sure why it said to remove both sides because it's not necessary at all, but it will drive service hours if that's how it's billed. The WIS usually shows many more steps than necessary to do a job. I put jack stands under the wheel carriers and it rested on those no problem. Airbags expanded and compressed as I jacked and lowered the car. I also unplugged the SBC wiring harness but I'm not sure if there's any correlation between the two.
Thanks, I see how you did it now the difference was me using a lift and letting the suspension drop to low were it became difficult to compress the bag.

Again good work !.
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