Help me choose: E63 AMG or M5?
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Today I went to see 3 dealers, BMW, Audi and Mercedes.
Checked out again M5, Audi RS4 and E63.
When I sat in the M5 it feels very bulky and heavy, the E63 felt much lighter and more inviting. It think it is the interior and the seats. Rs4 is just awsome, inside and out and the shifter is smooth and crisp much better then M5.
RS4 looks awesome but the lease deals on Rs4 are so bad. RS4 cheaper then the Es and M5 but leases for much higher. What is Audi thinking?
The Rs4 would lease for over 1400 36 month lease, whereas I can get M5 or E63 for much cheaper.
Why would anyone get an RS4????? It is a great car, but the price just does not make sense.
Anyway, E63 looks like a way to go![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Checked out again M5, Audi RS4 and E63.
When I sat in the M5 it feels very bulky and heavy, the E63 felt much lighter and more inviting. It think it is the interior and the seats. Rs4 is just awsome, inside and out and the shifter is smooth and crisp much better then M5.
RS4 looks awesome but the lease deals on Rs4 are so bad. RS4 cheaper then the Es and M5 but leases for much higher. What is Audi thinking?
The Rs4 would lease for over 1400 36 month lease, whereas I can get M5 or E63 for much cheaper.
Why would anyone get an RS4????? It is a great car, but the price just does not make sense.
Anyway, E63 looks like a way to go
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Carl- its so true about the S85 engine in the M5 and M6. Its a pre meditated engine where you have to sort of point and shoot but it sure does perform if you know how to drive it. Actually thats half the fun if not more, its arguably the best engine I have driven and I dont get bored of it. Learning the quirks and the sweet spot was a lot of excitement but then I really like to push the car. If one doesnt push their cars but expects random acts of torque and hp, the M5/M6 just might not be the right car. The SMG is perfect and the shifts are so fast. But the exhaust note, with the Meisterschaft GT, is incredible.
I just got a 997TT which is an amazing car but I think driving the M6 is a very close 2nd in excitement with that exhaust and higher reving motor. I love that car in tunnels- the sound is amazing.
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Carl- its so true about the S85 engine in the M5 and M6. Its a pre meditated engine where you have to sort of point and shoot but it sure does perform if you know how to drive it. Actually thats half the fun if not more, its arguably the best engine I have driven and I dont get bored of it. Learning the quirks and the sweet spot was a lot of excitement but then I really like to push the car. If one doesnt push their cars but expects random acts of torque and hp, the M5/M6 just might not be the right car. The SMG is perfect and the shifts are so fast. But the exhaust note, with the Meisterschaft GT, is incredible.
I just got a 997TT which is an amazing car but I think driving the M6 is a very close 2nd in excitement with that exhaust and higher reving motor. I love that car in tunnels- the sound is amazing.
I just got a 997TT which is an amazing car but I think driving the M6 is a very close 2nd in excitement with that exhaust and higher reving motor. I love that car in tunnels- the sound is amazing.
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The E63
Test drove a BMW M6 yesterday. I don't like the SMG which is the same in the M5. Got back into my E55 and decided that it was the better car. Buy the E63!
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CH the other day I was at the hot rod shop for golf carts. The owner is a collector of oddities, and was gloating over his newest addition.
A 1966 Barbie bike W/script that read "chain drive," well thinking of your Barbie scooter I busted out in uncontrollable laughter
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No I did not just sit. As I said in my previous post, I drove 2008 M5 (stick), although not the RS4.
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I drove the RS4 for 2 years, great car, good power..............IF I keep high rpm.
If you don't mind watch your RPM, M5 is a good choice, but if you mind watching the RPM, don't bother. Is seriously under power if the rpm is not in range.
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The RS4 Character is exactly same as M5.
I drove the RS4 for 2 years, great car, good power..............IF I keep high rpm.
If you don't mind watch your RPM, M5 is a good choice, but if you mind watching the RPM, don't bother. Is seriously under power if the rpm is not in range.
I drove the RS4 for 2 years, great car, good power..............IF I keep high rpm.
If you don't mind watch your RPM, M5 is a good choice, but if you mind watching the RPM, don't bother. Is seriously under power if the rpm is not in range.
While I have much respect for the RS4- I wont comment on its character since I dont own one - maybe Rock can chime in. I only speak from experience owning both fast benzes, a fast bimmer, a fast P car, and numerous other fast modern rides
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This is my take:
The RS4 should not be in the same discussion as the E63 vs the M5. Both of those cars offer a completely different driving experience.
If I had to pick only one car to drive for all occasions I would pick the M5 or the E63 over the RS4. Both cars are faster and more practical.
The RS4 offers a great package with wonderful steering, terrific suspension, beautiful aesthetics both inside and out and an awesome and exotic exhaust note. My biggest problem with the RS4 after months of ownership is the the car is just too freaking FAT!!!.
3900lbs + AWD + 420hp= less than stellar power. Maybe I'm spoiled with the torque and hp from my E55 but I don't think so. I think Audi could have made the RS4 one of the greatest 4-door rides of all time if they would have brought the car to market at 3,300lbs....... but they didn't and unfortunately, I just cannot forget that I'm driving a pig when I row through the gears.
The RS4 should not be in the same discussion as the E63 vs the M5. Both of those cars offer a completely different driving experience.
If I had to pick only one car to drive for all occasions I would pick the M5 or the E63 over the RS4. Both cars are faster and more practical.
The RS4 offers a great package with wonderful steering, terrific suspension, beautiful aesthetics both inside and out and an awesome and exotic exhaust note. My biggest problem with the RS4 after months of ownership is the the car is just too freaking FAT!!!.
3900lbs + AWD + 420hp= less than stellar power. Maybe I'm spoiled with the torque and hp from my E55 but I don't think so. I think Audi could have made the RS4 one of the greatest 4-door rides of all time if they would have brought the car to market at 3,300lbs....... but they didn't and unfortunately, I just cannot forget that I'm driving a pig when I row through the gears.
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This is my take:
The RS4 should not be in the same discussion as the E63 vs the M5. Both of those cars offer a completely different driving experience.
If I had to pick only one car to drive for all occasions I would pick the M5 or the E63 over the RS4. Both cars are faster and more practical.
The RS4 offers a great package with wonderful steering, terrific suspension, beautiful aesthetics both inside and out and an awesome and exotic exhaust note. My biggest problem with the RS4 after months of ownership is the the car is just too freaking FAT!!!.
3900lbs + AWD + 420hp= less than stellar power. Maybe I'm spoiled with the torque and hp from my E55 but I don't think so. I think Audi could have made the RS4 one of the greatest 4-door rides of all time if they would have brought the car to market at 3,300lbs....... but they didn't and unfortunately, I just cannot forget that I'm driving a pig when I row through the gears.![mercy](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/mecry.gif)
The RS4 should not be in the same discussion as the E63 vs the M5. Both of those cars offer a completely different driving experience.
If I had to pick only one car to drive for all occasions I would pick the M5 or the E63 over the RS4. Both cars are faster and more practical.
The RS4 offers a great package with wonderful steering, terrific suspension, beautiful aesthetics both inside and out and an awesome and exotic exhaust note. My biggest problem with the RS4 after months of ownership is the the car is just too freaking FAT!!!.
3900lbs + AWD + 420hp= less than stellar power. Maybe I'm spoiled with the torque and hp from my E55 but I don't think so. I think Audi could have made the RS4 one of the greatest 4-door rides of all time if they would have brought the car to market at 3,300lbs....... but they didn't and unfortunately, I just cannot forget that I'm driving a pig when I row through the gears.
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Ok, thank for all your feedback guys
. Here what I am planning to do, I am about to pull a trigger on
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E63 2008, Arctic White, black nappa inside, Pano roof, P2, iPod, Alacantra, Parktronic, Rear-side blinds, Voice Control.
What do you think about Arctic White, black interrior combo?
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E63 2008, Arctic White, black nappa inside, Pano roof, P2, iPod, Alacantra, Parktronic, Rear-side blinds, Voice Control.
What do you think about Arctic White, black interrior combo?
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This is my take:
The RS4 should not be in the same discussion as the E63 vs the M5. Both of those cars offer a completely different driving experience.
If I had to pick only one car to drive for all occasions I would pick the M5 or the E63 over the RS4. Both cars are faster and more practical.
The RS4 offers a great package with wonderful steering, terrific suspension, beautiful aesthetics both inside and out and an awesome and exotic exhaust note. My biggest problem with the RS4 after months of ownership is the the car is just too freaking FAT!!!.
3900lbs + AWD + 420hp= less than stellar power. Maybe I'm spoiled with the torque and hp from my E55 but I don't think so. I think Audi could have made the RS4 one of the greatest 4-door rides of all time if they would have brought the car to market at 3,300lbs....... but they didn't and unfortunately, I just cannot forget that I'm driving a pig when I row through the gears.![mercy](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/mecry.gif)
The RS4 should not be in the same discussion as the E63 vs the M5. Both of those cars offer a completely different driving experience.
If I had to pick only one car to drive for all occasions I would pick the M5 or the E63 over the RS4. Both cars are faster and more practical.
The RS4 offers a great package with wonderful steering, terrific suspension, beautiful aesthetics both inside and out and an awesome and exotic exhaust note. My biggest problem with the RS4 after months of ownership is the the car is just too freaking FAT!!!.
3900lbs + AWD + 420hp= less than stellar power. Maybe I'm spoiled with the torque and hp from my E55 but I don't think so. I think Audi could have made the RS4 one of the greatest 4-door rides of all time if they would have brought the car to market at 3,300lbs....... but they didn't and unfortunately, I just cannot forget that I'm driving a pig when I row through the gears.
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Yes and no............the car really is a visual and audible jewel but no car is perfect............. at least in my price range.![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Listen, I'm being very critical and to be honest my 600+hp E55 is more one dimensional than the RS4 will ever be.
When I purchased the RS4, I guess I thought I was going to get the total driving package...........kinda like an M3 on steroids. Unfortunately, I didn't........and now I search endlessly for my next perfect car...........haha.
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Listen, I'm being very critical and to be honest my 600+hp E55 is more one dimensional than the RS4 will ever be.
When I purchased the RS4, I guess I thought I was going to get the total driving package...........kinda like an M3 on steroids. Unfortunately, I didn't........and now I search endlessly for my next perfect car...........haha.
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Yes and no............the car really is a visual and audible jewel but no car is perfect............. at least in my price range.![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Listen, I'm being very critical and to be honest my 600+hp E55 is more one dimensional than the RS4 will ever be.
When I purchased the RS4, I guess I thought I was going to get the total driving package...........kinda like an M3 on steroids. Unfortunately, I didn't........and now I search endlessly for my next perfect car...........haha.
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Listen, I'm being very critical and to be honest my 600+hp E55 is more one dimensional than the RS4 will ever be.
When I purchased the RS4, I guess I thought I was going to get the total driving package...........kinda like an M3 on steroids. Unfortunately, I didn't........and now I search endlessly for my next perfect car...........haha.
God I can't wait till the DBS comes out since while the CL63 is fun, its just too damn big of a coupe. Perhaps the M6 might cure the itch for something fast, comfy, and coupe. Too bad no car is perfect.
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Haha I hear you. After seeing pictures of Vic's 997TT I keep kicking myself in the *** for not having pulled the trigger when it first came out, instead I bought the CLS55 and then shipped it off to Kleemann for their K4 update.
God I can't wait till the DBS comes out since while the CL63 is fun, its just too damn big of a coupe. Perhaps the M6 might cure the itch for something fast, comfy, and coupe. Too bad no car is perfect.![Frown](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
God I can't wait till the DBS comes out since while the CL63 is fun, its just too damn big of a coupe. Perhaps the M6 might cure the itch for something fast, comfy, and coupe. Too bad no car is perfect.
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Costly, but wow is it fun. It sucks there is so much power the rear wheels just spin even with LSD lol. Its a great car and I am going to keep it forever since no more 55K engines are being made. Now if the VRP guys come out with something more powerful, I will sure as hell have Vadim and Vrus mod it to the max. ![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Costly, but wow is it fun. It sucks there is so much power the rear wheels just spin even with LSD lol. Its a great car and I am going to keep it forever since no more 55K engines are being made. Now if the VRP guys come out with something more powerful, I will sure as hell have Vadim and Vrus mod it to the max. ![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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I have 285's in the rear on the CLS55 Performance package wheels. I need to get some lighter rims from HRE, perhaps the competition series.
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