Title Fight - Kleemann v. HPS
11-21-2002 | 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by Mach430
It was a car SHOW. My car was one of the feature cars in the Neowerkes show. They used it on flyers, posters, and banners. The reason why I came would be the same as why any tuner puts their cars in shows.
It was a car SHOW. My car was one of the feature cars in the Neowerkes show. They used it on flyers, posters, and banners. The reason why I came would be the same as why any tuner puts their cars in shows.
11-21-2002 | 01:49 PM
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Re: Re: prosthetic?
Originally posted by otoupalik
This was meant to be fun. It was in good fun. I guess you cannot understand that though as you are too busy "reacting."
Come or don't come, your call.
However, you really should take your own advise!
Thanks
Brad
This was meant to be fun. It was in good fun. I guess you cannot understand that though as you are too busy "reacting."
Come or don't come, your call.
However, you really should take your own advise!
Thanks
Brad
11-21-2002 | 01:53 PM
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Re: Re: prosthetic?
Originally posted by Petie
sounded like fun to me, but now youve put me in a bad mood.....
yeah i guess two cars racing where one started out with 50 more horsepower than the other doesnt even things up... i guess we can scratch your name off the list of people attending, which is good, means we have to buy less hotdogs...:p i mean hell, im just curious to see if the HPS will make it all the way through race before the engine explodes.....
sounded like fun to me, but now youve put me in a bad mood.....
yeah i guess two cars racing where one started out with 50 more horsepower than the other doesnt even things up... i guess we can scratch your name off the list of people attending, which is good, means we have to buy less hotdogs...:p i mean hell, im just curious to see if the HPS will make it all the way through race before the engine explodes.....
Petie using your brain even if you don't have it is not a bad thing. That HPS comes with worrenty so if it blows a dufus like you would get a new engine and bury the HPS in the process, what'd ya have to loose, clown?
11-21-2002 | 02:54 PM
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ones too fast according to CHP!
Re: Re: Re: prosthetic?
Originally posted by Fast Eddy
Brad, I dont ssee much fun in challenging product that in the firstplace did not claim to be faster or superiour to Kleemann, just an alternative to many people to get less horses for less money aand less performance. If you were running Kleemann cars against RENNtech's I would fly from East Coast to see this feast.
Brad, I dont ssee much fun in challenging product that in the firstplace did not claim to be faster or superiour to Kleemann, just an alternative to many people to get less horses for less money aand less performance. If you were running Kleemann cars against RENNtech's I would fly from East Coast to see this feast.
It was also done to get attention to the event.
If RENNtech wants to bring cars, even better! Brabus, please come. Anyone is welcome!
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11-21-2002 | 06:47 PM
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Still no word from HPS, but we are hopefull. There are going to be plenty of nice cars to see, so either way it should be a good meet. The w211 E50K will show the first Kleemann E Class body kit in the US, as well their big brake kits, interior, and wheels.
Just to clarify, as there have been many people asking, racing is not allowed inside the parking lot (for obvious reasons). In fact, this event was organized in order to get both Kleemann and HPS to bring their cars and demonstrate and/or explain their products. Where everyone is getting drag racing and other ideas is beyond me. From what it seems, HPS may not show. That's fine, at this point with all of the negative feedback, I've considered cancelling the whole event.
If you want to come down and see a bunch of Kleemann cars, or go for a ride in the new E50K, please by all means come! If you want to come and meet other MBWorld members, please by all means come! We're here for you. All I ask is that you bring a good attitude, and try to have a good time. If HPS, Renntech, Brabus, or anyone else wants to come, please do! This is a Mercedes meet, that will feature a lot of Kleemann cars. Just don't take the fun out of it.
Just to clarify, as there have been many people asking, racing is not allowed inside the parking lot (for obvious reasons). In fact, this event was organized in order to get both Kleemann and HPS to bring their cars and demonstrate and/or explain their products. Where everyone is getting drag racing and other ideas is beyond me. From what it seems, HPS may not show. That's fine, at this point with all of the negative feedback, I've considered cancelling the whole event.
If you want to come down and see a bunch of Kleemann cars, or go for a ride in the new E50K, please by all means come! If you want to come and meet other MBWorld members, please by all means come! We're here for you. All I ask is that you bring a good attitude, and try to have a good time. If HPS, Renntech, Brabus, or anyone else wants to come, please do! This is a Mercedes meet, that will feature a lot of Kleemann cars. Just don't take the fun out of it.
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08-10-2007 | 03:03 AM
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So I guess HPS never showed to the Spectrum, huh? Too bad. Even in losing, there is something gained!
Has HPS even attracted any new customers in the past 3 years??
Has HPS even attracted any new customers in the past 3 years??
08-10-2007 | 02:00 PM
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Mach430:
You must really have an extremely small *****. If you want to talk up your product, great. But who cares about HPS? Your pathetic insecurity shines like a bulging pimple on an adolescent boy.
As someone who has participated in many debates on subjects much more important than superchargers, I think it is important to note that just because you talk the loudest or the most often, does not make you correct. Most reputable aftermarket companies don't troll opinion forums trying to counter every negative comment. Rather, they let their products speak for themselves. If anything, you and your employer and suppliers should silently take to heart the comments posted here and use them to IMPROVE and ADAPT your products and services, not attack the competition. In doing so, you have elevated them to equals who must be taken on. Bad strategy.
From everything I've read from the Timster (the HPS owner), he never said HPS was better or even on par with Kleemann, just that it is an option for people who want an upgrade for less, and realize they will get less. Although, perhaps you could arrange to have the Timster meet you back there closer to the end of the HPS warranty...and then see how the cars are holding up. Or you could get Kleeman to market a less powerful, less expensive unit with a warranty that would suck up the potential HPS market.
Think creatively, not reactively.
You must really have an extremely small *****. If you want to talk up your product, great. But who cares about HPS? Your pathetic insecurity shines like a bulging pimple on an adolescent boy.
As someone who has participated in many debates on subjects much more important than superchargers, I think it is important to note that just because you talk the loudest or the most often, does not make you correct. Most reputable aftermarket companies don't troll opinion forums trying to counter every negative comment. Rather, they let their products speak for themselves. If anything, you and your employer and suppliers should silently take to heart the comments posted here and use them to IMPROVE and ADAPT your products and services, not attack the competition. In doing so, you have elevated them to equals who must be taken on. Bad strategy.
From everything I've read from the Timster (the HPS owner), he never said HPS was better or even on par with Kleemann, just that it is an option for people who want an upgrade for less, and realize they will get less. Although, perhaps you could arrange to have the Timster meet you back there closer to the end of the HPS warranty...and then see how the cars are holding up. Or you could get Kleeman to market a less powerful, less expensive unit with a warranty that would suck up the potential HPS market.
Think creatively, not reactively.
08-10-2007 | 03:27 PM
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WTF are you guys *****ing about? Sounds like a fair challenge to me.....there has been enough bad press about HPS, so if anything, it sounds like this is a good chance for them to prove their product should they step up. Winner takes bragging rights.....thats old school and fair. I'd love to see it personally......DO IT 
Nevermind...guess they didn't grow some brass ones
Nevermind...guess they didn't grow some brass ones
08-10-2007 | 10:08 PM
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04-20-2008 | 10:11 AM
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Sunday...Sunday...Sunday
In this corner, a Kleemann E50K w211 and in the other corner a HPS 55K of their choice!
This Sunday at the Irvine Spectrum, we have arranged for Brandon Grantham of Kleemann USA to bring his w211 E50K, complete with a new body kit, steering wheel, interior, brakes, and of course 500+ HP. Attending will also be a C24K, E32K, CLK43K, and possibly other Kleemann cars. This is your chance to see first hand just what Kleemann has to offer!
HPS, if you're willing, come down to the Irvine Spectrum (it's about 15 minutes from your shop), and show off what you have to offer. This would be a great chance to see your new product rival the existing Kleemann.
Many of the Evosport staff will be onhand to answer any tuning questions you may have. The meet will start at 11 am, and is guaranteed to pack more horsepower than any other Mercedes meet ever! If you have any questions, feel free to post, or email me at ben@evosport.com.
See everyone there!
--Ben
In this corner, a Kleemann E50K w211 and in the other corner a HPS 55K of their choice!
This Sunday at the Irvine Spectrum, we have arranged for Brandon Grantham of Kleemann USA to bring his w211 E50K, complete with a new body kit, steering wheel, interior, brakes, and of course 500+ HP. Attending will also be a C24K, E32K, CLK43K, and possibly other Kleemann cars. This is your chance to see first hand just what Kleemann has to offer!
HPS, if you're willing, come down to the Irvine Spectrum (it's about 15 minutes from your shop), and show off what you have to offer. This would be a great chance to see your new product rival the existing Kleemann.
Many of the Evosport staff will be onhand to answer any tuning questions you may have. The meet will start at 11 am, and is guaranteed to pack more horsepower than any other Mercedes meet ever! If you have any questions, feel free to post, or email me at ben@evosport.com.
See everyone there!
--Ben
wish you guys could do something like this on the east coast
edit....which I had of read the other things first.....like the "this is 5yrs old" posts above me.......lol
