It's amazing that the field has taken this long to finally catch up on our AMG's
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It's amazing that the field has taken this long to finally catch up on our AMG's
MB AMG E models have had little or no competition at the higher end of the speed scale until recently. The auto world seemed like a distant second in performance type sedans that can run with them & perform like the beast.
I am thinking to myself how can Mercedes now justify the high 5 figures for a mid-size sedan that runs 0-60 in the low 4's with so many cars on the horizon that for less money give you similiar performance. If I was to choose between any other one's for getting in a accident, the MB is top of the heap but all in all the world is gunning for them.
I think MB needs to add some type of higher end Turbo / Super charger to the E63's to keep the field back. Even the C63 is supposed to be a sub 4's car and they put that in their own backfield at a lesser price than the E63. I think it's time for MB to step up and show the world why MB is the greatest go on the earth, show us the power.
I am thinking to myself how can Mercedes now justify the high 5 figures for a mid-size sedan that runs 0-60 in the low 4's with so many cars on the horizon that for less money give you similiar performance. If I was to choose between any other one's for getting in a accident, the MB is top of the heap but all in all the world is gunning for them.
I think MB needs to add some type of higher end Turbo / Super charger to the E63's to keep the field back. Even the C63 is supposed to be a sub 4's car and they put that in their own backfield at a lesser price than the E63. I think it's time for MB to step up and show the world why MB is the greatest go on the earth, show us the power.
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MB AMG E models have had little or no competition at the higher end of the speed scale until recently. The auto world seemed like a distant second in performance type sedans that can run with them & perform like the beast.
I am thinking to myself how can Mercedes now justify the high 5 figures for a mid-size sedan that runs 0-60 in the low 4's with so many cars on the horizon that for less money give you similiar performance. If I was to choose between any other one's for getting in a accident, the MB is top of the heap but all in all the world is gunning for them.
I think MB needs to add some type of higher end Turbo / Super charger to the E63's to keep the field back. Even the C63 is supposed to be a sub 4's car and they put that in their own backfield at a lesser price than the E63. I think it's time for MB to step up and show the world why MB is the greatest go on the earth, show us the power.
I am thinking to myself how can Mercedes now justify the high 5 figures for a mid-size sedan that runs 0-60 in the low 4's with so many cars on the horizon that for less money give you similiar performance. If I was to choose between any other one's for getting in a accident, the MB is top of the heap but all in all the world is gunning for them.
I think MB needs to add some type of higher end Turbo / Super charger to the E63's to keep the field back. Even the C63 is supposed to be a sub 4's car and they put that in their own backfield at a lesser price than the E63. I think it's time for MB to step up and show the world why MB is the greatest go on the earth, show us the power.
.........unfortunately, MB does not intend to increase HP any further.
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We've already been given a taste of what the next Mercedes SL will look like ahead of its official unveiling in Geneva this March and despite the previous spy shots, we were still in the dark about what would come after AMG worked its wizardry on Mercedes' new high-dollar coupe. CAR was able to get the exclusive details on the SL65, which is being built in cooperation with HWA, the same folks who develop vehicles for the DTM/German Touring Car Championship.
That means that prodigious power is only the tip of the iceberg. But to be specific, 670 hp and 737 lb.-ft. of torque will be squeezed from the supercharged V8, with torque being limited to 555 lb.-ft. in first and second gears to avoid all the oily bits from being strewn across the tarmac.
In keeping with the Black tradition, AMG will outfit the coupe with massively flared fenders, plenty of aero-enhanced body panels (made up of carbon fiber), upgraded brakes, and a new Sportshift transmission that uses a wet clutch to transmit power to seven speeds. 19-inch wheels will be mounted in front, with 20-inchers out back and according to CAR, the Black Series will be around 550 pounds lighter than its pedestrian counterpart.
To make sure that absolute power doesn't corrupt absolutely, the price of the SL65 Black Series is set around £193,000. Stiff, but considering the SL can be flung to 60 in 3.9 seconds and can top out at 200 mph, it's officially in supercar territory. Sales will begin six to nine months after the last SLR rolls off the line and will share the McMerc's exclusivity with only 400 examples being produced.
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/merc...ck-series.html
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MB is already bumping their HP on the SL65 to separate itself from the field, I really expect the same from the E63 as well. I know this is a "Black" series car but I have a feeling that this engine designed to be placed in most of their 65 models eventually. That will also open the field to a mid to upper 500 HP E class to come into play and not be on top of the 65 models. I would safely say that by 2011 we will see ~589 HP E class AMG's on the new body style. They will take advantage of the new style E for a 1.5 years and bump it up after the "new" style effect becomes the norm. It isn't like the E63 set the world on fire for being much different than a E55 and after sitting in one recently I can safely say there isn't much of a difference. One could argue the fact that the power is delivered differently but there has been no real change to mention in the car all around. I will also say that the E63 is nothing to really get my check book out and say, oh man I have to have that. You can see that in the leases that they are offering and the heavy discounts that are being offered in lease rates and different rebates to get the E63 on the street.
We've already been given a taste of what the next Mercedes SL will look like ahead of its official unveiling in Geneva this March and despite the previous spy shots, we were still in the dark about what would come after AMG worked its wizardry on Mercedes' new high-dollar coupe. CAR was able to get the exclusive details on the SL65, which is being built in cooperation with HWA, the same folks who develop vehicles for the DTM/German Touring Car Championship.
That means that prodigious power is only the tip of the iceberg. But to be specific, 670 hp and 737 lb.-ft. of torque will be squeezed from the supercharged V8, with torque being limited to 555 lb.-ft. in first and second gears to avoid all the oily bits from being strewn across the tarmac.
In keeping with the Black tradition, AMG will outfit the coupe with massively flared fenders, plenty of aero-enhanced body panels (made up of carbon fiber), upgraded brakes, and a new Sportshift transmission that uses a wet clutch to transmit power to seven speeds. 19-inch wheels will be mounted in front, with 20-inchers out back and according to CAR, the Black Series will be around 550 pounds lighter than its pedestrian counterpart.
To make sure that absolute power doesn't corrupt absolutely, the price of the SL65 Black Series is set around £193,000. Stiff, but considering the SL can be flung to 60 in 3.9 seconds and can top out at 200 mph, it's officially in supercar territory. Sales will begin six to nine months after the last SLR rolls off the line and will share the McMerc's exclusivity with only 400 examples being produced.
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/merc...ck-series.html
We've already been given a taste of what the next Mercedes SL will look like ahead of its official unveiling in Geneva this March and despite the previous spy shots, we were still in the dark about what would come after AMG worked its wizardry on Mercedes' new high-dollar coupe. CAR was able to get the exclusive details on the SL65, which is being built in cooperation with HWA, the same folks who develop vehicles for the DTM/German Touring Car Championship.
That means that prodigious power is only the tip of the iceberg. But to be specific, 670 hp and 737 lb.-ft. of torque will be squeezed from the supercharged V8, with torque being limited to 555 lb.-ft. in first and second gears to avoid all the oily bits from being strewn across the tarmac.
In keeping with the Black tradition, AMG will outfit the coupe with massively flared fenders, plenty of aero-enhanced body panels (made up of carbon fiber), upgraded brakes, and a new Sportshift transmission that uses a wet clutch to transmit power to seven speeds. 19-inch wheels will be mounted in front, with 20-inchers out back and according to CAR, the Black Series will be around 550 pounds lighter than its pedestrian counterpart.
To make sure that absolute power doesn't corrupt absolutely, the price of the SL65 Black Series is set around £193,000. Stiff, but considering the SL can be flung to 60 in 3.9 seconds and can top out at 200 mph, it's officially in supercar territory. Sales will begin six to nine months after the last SLR rolls off the line and will share the McMerc's exclusivity with only 400 examples being produced.
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/merc...ck-series.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ighlight=towel
............the car you are talking about in your post is the Sl63 BS. The SL65 retains the TT V12 engine. Some of your info is not correct. In either case it is a specialty car.
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.............Sorry to dissappoint you, big HP in daily driven MB's are over, at least for now. Here is the link.
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............the car you are talking about in your post is the Sl63 BS. The SL65 retains the TT V12 engine. Some of your info is not correct. In either case it is a specialty car.
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https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ighlight=towel
............the car you are talking about in your post is the Sl63 BS. The SL65 retains the TT V12 engine. Some of your info is not correct. In either case it is a specialty car.
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Today's specialty cars engines become tomorrow's standard car engine is some way, shape or fashion. Maybe it will not have all the HP but it usually is a close variant of it.
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That is why I'm stepping away from MB until they come up with a new forced induction beast. I was hoping for a boosted E63, which I would have gladly bought...but looks like that ain't happening for a very long time (doesn't seem like it will happen at all). What a shame...
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That is why I'm stepping away from MB until they come up with a new forced induction beast. I was hoping for a boosted E63, which I would have gladly bought...but looks like that ain't happening for a very long time (doesn't seem like it will happen at all). What a shame...
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I love your enthusiam bro, but the insanity is over, the Green Police are on the way, and the German car makers are handing out the tainted Kool Aid to the HP cult members.
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.........As far as your other point, it all depends on your definition of tomorrow. Contrary to the conclusion you drew from your article, there no TT 6.3L for MB cars in the near future.
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..........ok. That car is an SL63 BS. It has already been tested at the ring. There is a big discussion about it on the CLK63 BS forum. I know what your article says, but it is not correct.
.........As far as your other point, it all depends on your definition of tomorrow. Contrary to the conclusion you drew from your article, there no TT 6.3L for MB cars in the near future.
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.........As far as your other point, it all depends on your definition of tomorrow. Contrary to the conclusion you drew from your article, there no TT 6.3L for MB cars in the near future.
Ted
