Am I the only person who is sick of the never ending competition between the M5 and the E55/66? When is it going to end? As far as im concerned, they are all marvelous cars, and i have respect for all of them, but am i the only one who is sick of it? Please let me know how you feel.

 

No...I enjoy them and learn from them. It's a great rivalry.

 

Of course its fun, but i hate the looks i get from M5 owners, thinking they can take me on the freeway

 

But they can...lol

 

Not if his car is breathing right and has a few mods....ex Heat exchanger, pulley, headers and a nice tune. They wont see you...heheheh

 

I believe a good percentage of AMG owners are former ///M owners. HP Rivalry is what got us here.

 

As a car enthusiast looking from the outside in I think its awesome. And imo the E55 wins the comparison by a wide margin b/c of mod-ability.

Most of the tuned ones are capable of running 11 second quarter-miles on a 2.65 open diff.

Once more people start doing gear mods with an LSD, low 11 seconds at 120+ will be no problem.

 

Again, we're back to drag racing for some reason. Yes it is *a* reason but not the be-all and end-all.

Handling, brake feel, 7-speed paddle shift, 8,250 redline...they're reasons for some people too.

 

This thread is funny. OP starts it saying he is sick of the rivalry and what happens.

 

ALL the reasons I own an ANG now that is

See yeah

 

Competition is always good!

 

I think you are right on the money here, I used to own several M cars and love both Ms and AMGs. It is just happens that I like AMG styling, power and practicality.

 

I wonder if the opposite is true: once driving the E55, does anyone go to the M5?

 

 

I used to drive Sunny55's E55 around all the time and I hated the floaty steering and ponderous brake feel. The torque was amazing but who really guns it off the line anymore, it just makes you look like an a$$ IMHO. I went M5 for the more visceral feel, connectivity to the road, brakes, and confidence at high speeds.

 

And by posting this you did what.... start another thread about the cars

All joking aside, most of the posts in threads about the M5 vs E55 battle are informative and rarely get ugly. They actually are educated posts from current and previous owners of both cars and the majority of the members understand they are two different animals with completely different manerisms.

I owned an E55, heavily modded, and then went to the M6 (S85 engine). There is no comparo IMO- not a negative against either car but just a purely different driving experience. Do I miss my E55- sometimes especially when I see it trapping 120mph against the wind on the west coast with a header leak and tranny slippage. That car was and is a monster to this day.

 

the M5 is still my favorite car to come up on....

 

+1

 

We all love cars so whats the point? You drive what you like and be happy with it, no need to put other people down and cause drama. Reading some of these posts reminds me of such childish behavior.

 

Nothing against the M5 at all. E55 would get schooled by an M5 if even one S-Curve happened to be on the road.

It's always a matter of priorities. My next car will be a 211 E55 cuz my priorities for my next car are a smooth shifting auto-box and boat loads of torque. I don't take my cars out on circuits... or have twisty roads to drive on. Everything is straight and flat around here. E55 fits my priorities best, and I prefer the 211 styling over the E60.

 

but anyway.. competition is always good.. motivation for mods.. without competition.. blah, boring

 

I recently got my 211 E55, does anyone know of any mods that would keep it under warranty? I'm not looking to spend 7 grand on a new transmission if i somehow destroy it. any input would help.

 

Totally true. There's something about the M that the AMG can never match, and its an amazing car. The same, however, can be said about the E. The M will never match its amazing torque, and the extreme comfort at all speeds. Both cars have their high points, they just happen to be opposites.

 

Pretty much any aftermarket modification to the powertrain will result in your powertrain warranty to be void. If you have low risk tolerance, modifying is probably not for you

P.S. You might want to read this thread:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/229113-tunning-horrific-nightmare.html

 

Easy solution:

E39 M5 > W211 E55/E63 and E60 M5.

Before you guys chop my head off...

The E60 M5 lost much of the BMW mystique for me. The insanely powerful high revving engine belongs in a much more nimble package, perhaps create a larger M roadster/coupe to harness the engine. The electronics (i-Drive, SMG-3, M-Drive), while a novel idea, will be horrible to maintain in the long run. The 6-speed transmission implementation was half assed, the high revving V10 needs the 7 gears. Too bad the SMG-3 is not a good solution for non 10/10ths driving. BMW knows this and developed a twin clutch transmission for the E92 M3. The worst part about it is the car no longer has the Teutonic chiseled good looks that a M5 should have, the sweeping body is gorgeous but looks like it could've came from a Japanese design studio.

The W211 E55 is fast, it is a hoot to drive and look for "kills". The car may even be too fast for its chassis, but the torque really sells the car. When trying to drive in a sporty manner the car doesn't respond as well as a BMW (be it an M or even a sports packaged normal 5-series) The twitchy and unpredictable electronic braking system (SBC) of the E55 plain SUCKS. The W211 AMG would be perfect with the braking, chassis dynamics and styling of the E63 with the motor from the E55

To me the E39 M5 will always remain the ultimate German super saloon. It doesn't have a peaky 500hp or limitless supercharged torque, it is "limited" to just 400hp/lb-ft of the most usable horsepower and torque you will ever find . It has powerful and predictable brakes and a very dynamic chassis. It has a honest to God 6-speed drivetrain with a wonderful LSD. It still looks good today, and the interior is a work of Bavarian art. Sure it won't trap 120mph or beat a Gallardo in a stoplight race, but it will thrill you to look and drive the car every time you can.