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I am neighbors with Mbenz06, i have known him for years, i went to high school with him, and we are good friends. You guys are both taking this way too far.
I believe you, man. I already said in my last post that it looks real in his last pics. But it looked so fake in the first pics, that's what got everything going. And then it just made things worse when the numbers were blurred out.Originally Posted by ENTIZY1
CWW and IMPROVIZ-I am neighbors with Mbenz06, i have known him for years, i went to high school with him, and we are good friends. You guys are both taking this way too far.
Anyway, I'll let it drop.
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ok cool i understand, thanks man. I just wanted to clear things up ya kno.
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...P.S., Nice Ulysse. I always liked those, when I was a kid they used to have these glossy full-page spreads in Power & Motoryacht and I got hooked on the blue/gold look. Beautiful watch!
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Just traded the 5712 for the 5970GOriginally Posted by sandmane63
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I am neighbors with Mbenz06, i have known him for years, i went to high school with him, and we are good friends. You guys are both taking this way too far.
First of all, the watch is authentic. I was there when he purchased it from Tourneau in South Coast Plaza Mall in Costa Mesa, CA
Good for you. But that doesn't change the fact that he posted incredibly cheezy pictures of the watch, that in those pics it looked very much like a counterfeit, that he was blurring out the model info on the watch and papers, etc....and plus, stuff like this happens all the time, why *shouldn't* we be looking at things with a jaundiced eye?Originally Posted by ENTIZY1
CWW and IMPROVIZ-I am neighbors with Mbenz06, i have known him for years, i went to high school with him, and we are good friends. You guys are both taking this way too far.
First of all, the watch is authentic. I was there when he purchased it from Tourneau in South Coast Plaza Mall in Costa Mesa, CA
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I never said it was fake, I said that there were some things about it which were suspicious. And one need not work for Breitling to be able to identify a fake, or to raise suspicions about a watch being fake, when the seller in question seems to be going to great lengths to conceal facts about the watch (model number, for example) that a buyer would need to know, or to be suspicious when a ridiculously blurry photograph is posted. Originally Posted by ENTIZY1
Second, you do not work for Breitling, and therefore should not be posting your opinion as though it was undisputable evidence against Mbenz06's watch being fake.
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Because of the suspicious actions taken by the poster. Originally Posted by ENTIZY1
Third, I highly doubt by the nature of your posts that either of you are the least bit interested in buying this watch. So why post questioning the validity of the watch?
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I believe in the beauty of capitalism, just as I believe in the beauty of freedom of information, and freedom of speech. And the thing is this: if someone's asking a price for a watch that's two years old, scratched up, when one can get a brand new one for the same price, or a bit more (SS Pilot band would add $500, putting it at $10,600 brand spanking new), then guess what? People are going to point this out, just as they will point it out if someone tries to sell an E55 for 30-50% more than it's worth. Originally Posted by ENTIZY1
Fourth, If you think the watch is overpriced, why not leave that to the disgression of the buyer, who I am sure is savvy enough to pay to have Breitling authorized dealer inspect it for authenticity. That is the beauty of capitalism.
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Horse*****. There is NO PROTECTION in blurring out the MODEL NUMBER of a watch. I can see the serial number blurring and never raised a concern about this, but blurring out the model number is inexcusable.Originally Posted by ENTIZY1
Fifth, we are in an economic crisis and if he decides to blur anything it is for his own protection.
Now, having said that, he DID, in a PM to me, send me pics of the caseback with the model number unblurred, and it is correct for the model of the watch. Which is great, but as I said, the fakes of the CE are so good that I'd recommend ONLY buying one when its authenticity can be verified before purchase, or purchase can be done with some way to recover funds if watch turnes out to be fake. And that is NOT exclusive to this one, it's a piece of advice to anyone purchasing ANY watch online.
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Welcome to the Internet.Originally Posted by ENTIZY1
He has done his best to satisfy both of your incredible posts with pictures addressing each and every issue. Give him a break.
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Which is exactly what I was advising him/her to do.Originally Posted by ENTIZY1
Sixth, If there is someone who is interested in purchasing the watch, a fellow forum member can meet at a watch store, etc... to validate the authenticity of the watch.
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I didn't label him as a scammer, I raised issues about the watch, like claiming it's been worn "a few times", when it has far more scratches on it than my watch, which I got back from servicing several months ago and have worn "a few times" a WEEK since then. Originally Posted by ENTIZY1
Lastly, It is frustrating for me, and it isn't even my watch! I know it is real. You guys are being ridiculous. I wouldn't be surprised if both of you are attorneys jeeeezus. If you think it is fake, don't buy it. If you think hes worn it more than a "couple times" who cares. I understand there are alot of scammers out there, but there is no reason to label Mbenz06 as such. -Neil

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First off, Thank you Entizy for your post.

Think for yourself...
The watch is scratched. I wear it, it is used, scratches come out.
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Anyway, I'll let it drop.
Sorry bro but how big of a cabby are you. Improviz makes a statement and you jump all over it. I reply with more pics and answers you apologize. Improviz brings up more points you jump right back into it. Then Entizy posts and you say you're gonna drop it again... Improviz's replied again so you aren't going to give your 2cents??Originally Posted by CWW
I believe you, man. I already said in my last post that it looks real in his last pics. But it looked so fake in the first pics, that's what got everything going. And then it just made things worse when the numbers were blurred out.Anyway, I'll let it drop.

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Didn't know how to utilize the cameras macro feature. I wanted to blurr out the model info. My decision not yours. Sent you a pm and you received it so why keep bringing it up model #?Originally Posted by Improviz
Good for you. But that doesn't change the fact that he posted incredibly cheezy pictures of the watch, that in those pics it looked very much like a counterfeit, that he was blurring out the model info on the watch and papers, etc....and plus, stuff like this happens all the time, why *shouldn't* we be looking at things with a jaundiced eye?
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If you want to buy it, lets meet up. If not, you made your point, now move on.Originally Posted by Improviz
I never said it was fake, I said that there were some things about it which were suspicious... that a buyer would need to know, or to be suspicious when a ridiculously blurry photograph is posted.
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Add mother of pearl, over 1ct in diamonds and maybe that'll raise the price up a bit no? Stop saying this watch is overpriced when you have no idea what you are talking about.Originally Posted by Improviz
I believe in the beauty of capitalism, just as I believe in the beauty of freedom of information, and freedom of speech. And the thing is this: if someone's asking a price for a watch that's two years old, scratched up, when one can get a brand new one for the same price, or a bit more (SS Pilot band would add $500, putting it at $10,600 brand spanking new), then guess what? People are going to point this out, just as they will point it out if someone tries to sell an E55 for 30-50% more than it's worth.
The watch is scratched. I wear it, it is used, scratches come out.
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I am pretty sure no one cares about this anymore. I dont need to sell this but if anyone wants it, feel free to PM me.Originally Posted by Improviz
I didn't label him as a scammer, I raised issues about the watch, like claiming it's been worn "a few times", when it has far more scratches on it than my watch, which I got back from servicing several months ago and have worn "a few times" a WEEK since then.
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Originally Posted by mbenz06
Sorry bro but how big of a cabby are you. Improviz makes a statement and you jump all over it. I reply with more pics and answers you apologize. Improviz brings up more points you jump right back into it. Then Entizy posts and you say you're gonna drop it again... Improviz's replied again so you aren't going to give your 2cents??

Another poster and me said it looked fake before Improviz ever chimed in. I actually posted before he did. He then posted on the topic, because he obviously knows a lot more about Breitlings. And while I definitely agreed with his assessments, I'm not understanding how you're calling me out for taking orders from him, when I had already said it looked fake before he even posted.
So I guess I called Miss Cleo or something to figure out what he would say before he said it? LOL. You make no sense, man, I posted before he did!
Then you swore it was real, so I let it drop. That is, until you posted more pics, that blurred out all the useable information. So I posted again, pointing out that you were doing more harm than good by blurring out all the model and serial numbers. Which is entirely correct, btw. There is no point blurring out a model number on a watch.
So...yeah. Your timeline is a little "off".

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to get back on track, here's a crappy pic of what i'm wearing today...
We can't avoid controversy here even when we are discussing watches! Originally Posted by chiromikey
price aside and in all fairness, people block out serial/series numbers on watches all the time...from ebay to timezone, so it's not a big deal.to get back on track, here's a crappy pic of what i'm wearing today...


Gorgeous UN! I have been eyeing that annual calendar as I have had a Blue Wave and a Blue Surf. I would also like to have a Freak someday but service issues/costs have kept me at bay. I just got done servicing a time only Roger Dubuis for $1,600 and I can't imagine what a Freak service would cost.
BTW, Is it just me or is high-end watch service getting progressively crappier and the prices absolutely stupid?! Everyone pushes for the exclusivity of in-house movements in high-end watches. I love my megabuck pieces with boring old elaborated Valjoux and ETA movements as any good watch maker can service them for well under $500. None of this go back to factory service for 12 weeks nonsense. Sorry, couldn't resist the rant as I was just emailing about another watch that has been in for service for 6 MONTHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, I wonder how many members here frequent TZ and Watchnet?
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Gorgeous UN! I have been eyeing that annual calendar as I have had a Blue Wave and a Blue Surf. I would also like to have a Freak someday but service issues/costs have kept me at bay. I just got done servicing a time only Roger Dubuis for $1,600 and I can't imagine what a Freak service would cost.
BTW, Is it just me or is high-end watch service getting progressively crappier and the prices absolutely stupid?! Everyone pushes for the exclusivity of in-house movements in high-end watches. I love my megabuck pieces with boring old elaborated Valjoux and ETA movements as any good watch maker can service them for well under $500. None of this go back to factory service for 12 weeks nonsense. Sorry, couldn't resist the rant as I was just emailing about another watch that has been in for service for 6 MONTHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, I wonder how many members here frequent TZ and Watchnet?
if i ever really "make it", there is a roger dubuis i'd like to have to finish off my collection.Originally Posted by Blacksport350
We can't avoid controversy here even when we are discussing watches! 

Gorgeous UN! I have been eyeing that annual calendar as I have had a Blue Wave and a Blue Surf. I would also like to have a Freak someday but service issues/costs have kept me at bay. I just got done servicing a time only Roger Dubuis for $1,600 and I can't imagine what a Freak service would cost.
BTW, Is it just me or is high-end watch service getting progressively crappier and the prices absolutely stupid?! Everyone pushes for the exclusivity of in-house movements in high-end watches. I love my megabuck pieces with boring old elaborated Valjoux and ETA movements as any good watch maker can service them for well under $500. None of this go back to factory service for 12 weeks nonsense. Sorry, couldn't resist the rant as I was just emailing about another watch that has been in for service for 6 MONTHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, I wonder how many members here frequent TZ and Watchnet?
and no, it's not just you...you're absolutely correct about quality and prices on factory servicing for exclusive/in house movements.
i don't frequent tz or watchnet as much as i used to but i still check in once in a while.
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Didn't know how to utilize the cameras macro feature. I wanted to blurr out the model info. My decision not yours. Sent you a pm and you received it so why keep bringing it up model #?
Because your blurring it out in the first place was one of the points of contention, and I was pointing it out. Originally Posted by mbenz06
First off, Thank you Entizy for your post.Didn't know how to utilize the cameras macro feature. I wanted to blurr out the model info. My decision not yours. Sent you a pm and you received it so why keep bringing it up model #?
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When you grow up and get to be a moderator, you can tell me what to post.Originally Posted by mbenz06
If you want to buy it, lets meet up. If not, you made your point, now move on.
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Someone here has no idea what he's talking about, but it isn't me. Originally Posted by mbenz06
Add mother of pearl, over 1ct in diamonds and maybe that'll raise the price up a bit no? Stop saying this watch is overpriced when you have no idea what you are talking about.
The brand new watch for which I gave the link HAS the diamond bezel and hour markers, AND HAS the mother of pearl dial, and sells BRAND NEW for $10,100. The only thing it doesn't have that yours does is the SS Pilot bracelet, which will add $500 to the price of the watch, meaning for $800 more than what you're asking for yours, one could purchase a new one.

There are a few watches out there that hold their value thsi well...yours is not one of them.
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That's not the point. The point is your claiming to have worn it "only a few times", which imo is Originally Posted by mbenz06
The watch is scratched. I wear it, it is used, scratches come out.
given the state of that watch.Good luck finding someone dumb enough to pay $800 less for a used one than they could pay for a brand new one.

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Somebody post some more pics and keep this going. I love seeing all these...many of which I have never heard of or seen.
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THATS NOT A NEW PANERAI IS IT ??????????Originally Posted by M3-ADDICT
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No too big for PAM, U-Boat Originally Posted by malakasnyc
THATS NOT A NEW PANERAI IS IT ??????????

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no its a $200 cheap watchOriginally Posted by malakasnyc
THATS NOT A NEW PANERAI IS IT ??????????
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trade that watch in for a treadmill thanks.Originally Posted by M3-ADDICT
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That would be a bad trade, most expensive Treadmill is around $2800, I need another $8000.00Originally Posted by Full Throttle
trade that watch in for a treadmill thanks.
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That would be a bad trade, most expensive Treadmill is around $2800, I need another $8000.00
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$1500 Breitling, awww cute. Originally Posted by Full Throttle
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You really should stop posting.Originally Posted by M3-ADDICT
$1500 Breitling, awww cute.

