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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoX
Somebody (Bryan M) just cranked off a 1.69 60' on the way to an 11.7

Ok so we all need this added to our local tracks.. This is amazing!!

Look at the DA it just dropped fromm 332 ft to 212, SWEEEEET

Wow 1.69 is dam good. I have been seeing alot of 17 second passes.. LOL
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 01:40 AM
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 01:59 AM
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Tell ya what. To those that are up this late. You wanna see something F'in really cool. Texas motorplex has LIVE results. Wish we knew our boys numbers.

Check this out. Need this at ATCO, ETown and Moroso ASAP!!!

http://www.1320go.com/texasmotorplex/livetiming.php#
That's just nuts!

My car was 4186 and Darren was 4190 ... I don't know how they came up with those artificial names (probably some Hipaa law) but those are the slips that we ran.

I think that Bfnnrgn cam in at the same time as Darren so he should be 4189 or 91.
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 02:07 AM
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If you'd like to view our times you can go to the following link:

http://www.1320go.com/texasmotorplex/livetiming.php#

Here are the car numbers:

darren_dallas = 4190 (M5)
DFW01E55 = 4186 (CL55)
bfnnrgn = 4189 (SL55)

Summary:

Below is my 5th attempt in the M5 (used "mash and go"):
Car CL55 M5
r/t .210 .560
60' 2.030 1.966
330 5.332 5.324
1/8 8.029 8.027
MPH 91.19 92.35
1000 10.370 10.338
1/4 12.337 12.266
MPH 113.61 117.47

Below is my 4th attempt in the M5 (used "mash and go"):
Car SL55 M5
r/t 1.060 .685
60' 2.125 1.986
330 5.452 5.380
1/8 8.159 8.095
MPH 90.87 92.06
1000 10.504 10.412
1/4 12.468 12.344
MPH 113.80 117.29


Below is my 3rd attempt in the M5 (used "mash and go"), also Mike (in the CL55) did not let his car cool down from the run before this one with me:
Car CL55 M5
r/t .305 .519
60' 2.124 1.950
330 5.702 5.290
1/8 8.473 7.980
MPH 89.42 91.98
1000 10.858 10.285
1/4 12.861 12.207
MPH 111.62 117.77

Below is my 2nd attempt in the M5 (used launch control):
Car M5 CL55
r/t .501 .108
60' 2.188 1.969
330 5.621 5.257
1/8 8.346 7.946
MPH 91.84 91.48
1000 10.668 10.270
1/4 12.603 12.220
MPH 115.26 115.82
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 02:14 AM
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Suddenly I get no results, I wonder if the page rolled over to 3/22?

Bottom line, I went 3 for 4, despite getting hammered by Darren on trap and ET in one particular race. (Then some guy ran a 19+ against me and I was able to squeak out the win.)

The Evosport shorty headers probably added 3mph to my trap.


Edit: Notice how consistent Darren's M5 is at 117 trap speed. The heat soak on the 55k doesn't allow that. Thanks to Robert and Darren for a fun night.

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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 02:29 AM
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Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azj5BFEmA8U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYMFzql4BIY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCV5gmk8xAg

Mike is a fantastic driver. Great reaction time and knows how to launch his CL55. My car is definitely faster, but that does not make up for experience and skill (which Mike has both!).

Overall, I'm happy with how my car was performing. Once I figured out how to launch the darn thing it was very consistent. I could go back to back runs and get 117mph trap speeds all day long. The temp wasn't that bad either 63 mid evening and 57 going home.

Great fun guys, let's definitely do this again.

Regards,

Darren
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 02:35 AM
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Holy tired Batman! I just got home. BTW Darren they had a weigh station there. My car weighed in at 4480lbs.
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 02:42 AM
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This was my first time at a dragstrip. It was a heck of a lot of fun!

My best trap was
r/t .649
60' 2.038
330 5.859
1/8 8.073
MPH 90.56
1000 10.407
1/4 12.367
MPH 116.87

I had another run with a 12.343 best E/T at 116.48mph. 2.038 was my best 60'. Usually they were around 2.2. Definatly need some drag radials, the stock Pirellis were awful. ESP was flashing at me the first 1/4 of the strip it seemed like.

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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by darren_dallas
Put that baby on a diet!
I'm calling Jenny Craig first thing in the morning.
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bfnnrgn
Holy tired Batman! I just got home. BTW Darren they had a weigh station there. My car weighed in at 4480lbs.
With driver I hope?
MBUSA.com says 4,280 for the SL55 and 4,255 for the CL55.

I think the M5 weighs just over 4,000 lbs ... plus, both Robert and I had our massage seats turned on, WITH the air circulator on!

That's gotta' be worth 3/10th's!

Okay, by any measure, the good guys win!

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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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Awesome Guys!! love the live timing , wish we could have known the car #s prior then we could all be eating popcorn and drinking beer, all the weather info including DA was displayed during each run. Im off to the track now , Will watch vids when I return.

Thanks!!
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by darren_dallas
Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azj5BFEmA8U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYMFzql4BIY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCV5gmk8xAg

Mike is a fantastic driver. Great reaction time and knows how to launch his CL55. My car is definitely faster, but that does not make up for experience and skill (which Mike has both!).

Overall, I'm happy with how my car was performing. Once I figured out how to launch the darn thing it was very consistent. I could go back to back runs and get 117mph trap speeds all day long. The temp wasn't that bad either 63 mid evening and 57 going home.

Great fun guys, let's definitely do this again.

Regards,

Darren
Ugh, I look like a total noob in that video. Didn't even do a burnout.
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 03:29 PM
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looks like a lot of fun guys, maybe some sticky tires next time?
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DFW01E55
Suddenly I get no results, I wonder if the page rolled over to 3/22?

Bottom line, I went 3 for 4, despite getting hammered by Darren on trap and ET in one particular race. (Then some guy ran a 19+ against me and I was able to squeak out the win.)

The Evosport shorty headers probably added 3mph to my trap.


Edit: Notice how consistent Darren's M5 is at 117 trap speed. The heat soak on the 55k doesn't allow that. Thanks to Robert and Darren for a fun night.
wow nice runs... This is very similar if not identical to the M5 runs here in California. You beat him on the tree all night long, had some good 60 ft and not so good. On the good 60's you stayed ahead, but he was always able to reel you in last 1/8th. Thats why its so important to get the jump on the tree and stay under 2.000 60 fts. The M5 specifically has a difficult time achieving sub 2.0 60 fts modded or unmodded.

Cool vids.. great event!! Wish we could run at night and have the LIVE TIMING , that was super
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
wow nice runs... This is very similar if not identical to the M5 runs here in California. You beat him on the tree all night long, had some good 60 ft and not so good. On the good 60's you stayed ahead, but he was always able to reel you in last 1/8th. Thats why its so important to get the jump on the tree and stay under 2.000 60 fts. The M5 specifically has a difficult time achieving sub 2.0 60 fts modded or unmodded.

Cool vids.. great event!! Wish we could run at night and have the LIVE TIMING , that was super
Interesting benefit of his NA engine, he was getting stronger as the outside temp dropped, I was getting slower as the heat soak increased.

On the most competitive run of the night, at 1/8th he trapped 91.84 and I hit 91.48 from there I increased to a 115.82 trap and he trapped 115.26.

I must have caught him short by a gear because that 100+mph is the ///M's sweet spot.
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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Yeah I just saw that...Wow . Your car lost 2 mph while his gained 2mph.

After a cool down the cars are very close , on your closest run you were nearly a 1/2 second faster through the 1/8th due to his 2.188 60ft time, but your car ran strong the entire run and he did not make up any ground.

Now fast forward , he starts really picking up after the 1/8th and your car gets slower magnifying his strength. I have the NA motor and it also seems to lose 1-2 mph when going more than 2x. My car always runs great after 45-60 minutes of dry ice. And yes it LOVES 60 degrees or less.. I think your car would also trap 117 if you had let it sit or used dry ice to cool the intake.

Great runs , you guys did a wonderful job with the flow of info and I thank you!
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
Yeah I just saw that...Wow . Your car lost 2 mph while his gained 2mph.

After a cool down the cars are very close , on your closest run you were nearly a 1/2 second faster through the 1/8th due to his 2.188 60ft time, but your car ran strong the entire run and he did not make up any ground.

Now fast forward , he starts really picking up after the 1/8th and your car gets slower magnifying his strength. I have the NA motor and it also seems to lose 1-2 mph when going more than 2x. My car always runs great after 45-60 minutes of dry ice. And yes it LOVES 60 degrees or less.. I think your car would also trap 117 if you had let it sit or used dry ice to cool the intake.

Great runs , you guys did a wonderful job with the flow of info and I thank you!
Juicee,

In the run where we both posted a 115mph, it was only my second pass ever in my M5 at the drag strip. I was trying to use the launch control and it just sucks for drag strip use. The change in my trap speeds were a direct result of me getting more familiar with how to launch the car and changing my technique.

Just wanted to put some context around why my times sucked at first. I have no doubt Mike needs to get his car cooled down. When Robert (in the SL55) let his car sit for a while he posted a 116.8x (can't remember the exact time), so you're definitely right on.

Regards,

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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by darren_dallas
Juicee,

In the run where we both posted a 115mph, it was only my second pass ever in my M5 at the drag strip. I was trying to use the launch control and it just sucks for drag strip use. The change in my trap speeds were a direct result of me getting more familiar with how to launch the car and changing my technique.

Just wanted to put some context around why my times sucked at first. I have no doubt Mike needs to get his car cooled down. When Robert (in the SL55) let his car sit for a while he posted a 116.8x (can't remember the exact time), so you're definitely right on.

Regards,

Darren
I think I know what may have happened. On your 115 mph trap what time was it?

after 8 pm would suprise me . Prior to 8 it makes sense

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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by darren_dallas
Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azj5BFEmA8U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYMFzql4BIY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCV5gmk8xAg

Mike is a fantastic driver. Great reaction time and knows how to launch his CL55. My car is definitely faster, but that does not make up for experience and skill (which Mike has both!).

Overall, I'm happy with how my car was performing. Once I figured out how to launch the darn thing it was very consistent. I could go back to back runs and get 117mph trap speeds all day long. The temp wasn't that bad either 63 mid evening and 57 going home.

Great fun guys, let's definitely do this again.

Regards,

Darren
Looks like a great time!

Need a new camera crew though...
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by darren_dallas
Just wanted to put some context around why my times sucked at first. I have no doubt Mike needs to get his car cooled down. When Robert (in the SL55) let his car sit for a while he posted a 116.8x (can't remember the exact time), so you're definitely right on.

Regards,

Darren
Actually at the end I was pretty much hot lapping. I was still able to run 116.x at 12.3x. From looking at the datalogging I was doing I only needed about 2 minutes coasting/low speed to get IATs back down to normal with the low temps that were outside(idling raises IATs). The upgraded pump really helps cool it back down after a run. Mike you should really look into getting one, they're only $200.

My traps and times got better as the night went on as well due to practice. Started at 113 and 12.5 and finished in the high 116s at 12.3. Wheelspin still a huge issue, but modulating the trottle wasn't an option. Way too much excitement to remember to do it. Light turned green and foot went right to the floor.

Err...there was that one time I forgot to turn ESP back on after a burnout and reseting the shift points with the ECU reset. I ran a 14.5 at 111. I'm sure I put on quite a show going down half the track sideways.

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Next time on the rematch I am shipping my drag radials down to you mister!!

We get those 60' times under 2.0, and you've got um beat every time.

Errrr ehhhh, hopefully. Gosh that M was cookin.
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Darren Dallas you seem like a class act bro, we need to get you in a BENZ.
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Originally Posted by bfnnrgn
Actually at the end I was pretty much hot lapping. I was still able to run 116.x at 12.3x. From looking at the datalogging I was doing I only needed about 2 minutes coasting/low speed to get IATs back down to normal with the low temps that were outside(idling raises IATs). The upgraded pump really helps cool it back down after a run. Mike you should really look into getting one, they're only $200.

My traps and times got better as the night went on as well due to practice. Started at 113 and 12.5 and finished in the high 116s at 12.3. Wheelspin still a huge issue, but modulating the trottle wasn't an option. Way too much excitement to remember to do it. Light turned green and foot went right to the floor.

Err...there was that one time I forgot to turn ESP back on after a burnout and reseting the shift points with the ECU reset. I ran a 14.5 at 111. I'm sure I put on quite a show going down half the track sideways.
data logging is a good move when running higher boost..

hopefully you can get a bigger HE soon and have a nice over all package.
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