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Old 05-04-2008 | 02:44 PM
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Recipe for 11 sec E55...

In general,how much modding is needed for an E55 to run a 11.00-11.50 and still be used as a daily driver?

Will a pulley&ECU do it or do you need more then that?
Old 05-04-2008 | 02:46 PM
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Just a little more will do it, like a larger TB...
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So pulley,ECU& TB?
Old 05-04-2008 | 03:26 PM
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So pulley,ECU& TB?
that's probably all you need in your neck of the woods...maybe a good set of headers to be sure.
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I remember Shawn ran 11.80s and 11.90s with just pulley and ECU at Famoso (90 F). He then added headers and air filters, and ran 11.70s. Then finally he added 80mm TB, and more ECU tuning and ran 11.50s. Translate those numbers to ATCO (easily 1/2 second faster track), and you get your low 11s
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What happened to Shawn?

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I remember Shawn ran 11.80s and 11.90s with just pulley and ECU at Famoso (90 F). He then added headers and air filters, and ran 11.70s. Then finally he added 80mm TB, and more ECU tuning and ran 11.50s. Translate those numbers to ATCO (easily 1/2 second faster track), and you get your low 11s
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Originally Posted by oldgixxer
In general,how much modding is needed for an E55 to run a 11.00-11.50 and still be used as a daily driver?

Will a pulley&ECU do it or do you need more then that?
Seriously, the best ET of all time for an E55 is an 11.348 or something without nitrous and that car had every imaginable mod. Be prepared to spend in excess of 10,000 if you want an 11.5 second car. Look at dragtimes.com if you want to see who has run under 11.5 and what mods each car had. Start with mine if you like. Good luck trying to get 11.0 with just a pulley and ECU dude.

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Mo: Have you seen him lately? Regards, Phil
Hey Phil, how is it going? I haven't seen Shawn since March, but I did talk to him a couple of times. He said the car is running great and he's enjoying every minute of it
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Originally Posted by oldgixxer
In general,how much modding is needed for an E55 to run a 11.00-11.50 and still be used as a daily driver?

Will a pulley&ECU do it or do you need more then that?
first it would depend what track you were gonna run at. That is more important than the mods IMO
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um i see you have a 06 CLS55?
is that new or did you always have it?
and yes i think you need more then pulley and tune based on feedback...but you can always give it a try and see what you get
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Originally Posted by higginsbeach
Seriously, the best ET of all time for an E55 is an 11.348 or something without nitrous and that car had every imaginable mod. Be prepared to spend in excess of 10,000 if you want an 11.5 second car. Look at dragtimes.com if you want to see who has run under 11.5 and what mods each car had. Start with mine if you like. Good luck trying to get 11.0 with just a pulley and ECU dude.
The problem with dragtimes.com is your assuming whoever posted is being 100% upfront with their mods.Most of the guys I know won't tell you everything they have done;guys who race like a little secrecy&I understand that.I'm not asking for good luck,I want to know exactly the mods I would need to build a reliable low 11sec E55;not one that's gonna blow itself up.
If it can't be done reliably then I would hope somebody would also shed the light on that & why

That's why I'm asking on the forum,because the guys who post here help each other out no matter how redundant a question is

Since I'm considering building a 55 for myself,I would be running at Atco or Englishtown.

I would most likely do pulley,ECU,headers,filtersD/R's and see where that gets me.

Hmmm,I wonder if I were to buy Enzoms car&do those mods to it how fast it would be?
Lorenzo,hello???
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um i see you have a 06 CLS55?
is that new or did you always have it?
and yes i think you need more then pulley and tune based on feedback...but you can always give it a try and see what you get
No the CLS is gone,it went back to the dealer 3wks after purchase....long story.Was replaced by the 63.I will have to update my info
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you already know those are great tracks so I see you at 11.5 with what you listed. I would add cooling to keep it reliable. If you dont hit 11.5 with those mods just add TB.

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Hmmm,I wonder if I were to buy Enzoms car&do those mods to it how fast it would be?
Lorenzo,hello???
You took the words out of my mouth. I was just about to say, why don't you buy Enzom's car? It already does 11.7s and 11.8s bone stock. An 11.5 could be only drag radials away
Old 05-04-2008 | 06:21 PM
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== An 11.5 could be only drag radials away
+1

Need to put the power to the pavement. I am anxious to go back with new tires to break into the 1.6x 60' times instear of my 2.3x times with the Nitto 555's with 18k miles.
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don't forget the VRP TB

Originally Posted by oldgixxer
The problem with dragtimes.com is your assuming whoever posted is being 100% upfront with their mods.Most of the guys I know won't tell you everything they have done;guys who race like a little secrecy&I understand that.I'm not asking for good luck,I want to know exactly the mods I would need to build a reliable low 11sec E55;not one that's gonna blow itself up.
If it can't be done reliably then I would hope somebody would also shed the light on that & why

That's why I'm asking on the forum,because the guys who post here help each other out no matter how redundant a question is

Since I'm considering building a 55 for myself,I would be running at Atco or Englishtown.

I would most likely do pulley,ECU,headers,filtersD/R's and see where that gets me.

Hmmm,I wonder if I were to buy Enzoms car&do those mods to it how fast it would be?
Lorenzo,hello???
It's a good bang for the $$$, I saw 30 HP from the dyno runs on my E55.
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It's a good bang for the $$$, I saw 30 HP from the dyno runs on my E55.
30hp
Old 05-04-2008 | 09:44 PM
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You took the words out of my mouth. I was just about to say, why don't you buy Enzom's car? It already does 11.7s and 11.8s bone stock. An 11.5 could be only drag radials away
I wish, but I doubt it. I might be able to drop it to low 11.7's on a great day, but no chance it is going 11.5's without some more hp. But I will try.

Gixxer - every time I get close to selling it, I can't figure out what to replace it with. Still hunting for a dealer with a 65 or a 996 Turbo, but they are so hard to come by.
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Here is a E55 in the 10's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujsTZduMZAQ

I have no idea who or what is under the hood though.
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Talking I was really pleased with the results!

Originally Posted by oldgixxer
30hp
27 HP with the VRP Shorty Headers and another run on the dyno after the VRP Throttle Body added another 30 HP. A real bang for the buck $$$. My understanding is that these TB's were on the early SL55's but MB decided to tame down the 55 motor and they didn't reappear until the 08 SL55 again on a factory 55 motor. Most of the 55 guys have stated similar results with the VRP 80mm TB from the factory 74mm TB.
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Here is a E55 in the 10's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujsTZduMZAQ

I have no idea who or what is under the hood though.
That car belongs or use to belong to the KING Derek! He was the 1st E55 in the 10's. He's running NOS + K2 and bunch of other goodies!
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I wish, but I doubt it. I might be able to drop it to low 11.7's on a great day, but no chance it is going 11.5's without some more hp. But I will try.

Gixxer - every time I get close to selling it, I can't figure out what to replace it with. Still hunting for a dealer with a 65 or a 996 Turbo, but they are so hard to come by.
Enzom, We returned our 05 Cl65 with 6k on the clock to Globe MB in Fairfield NJ. This was about a month ago, they might still have it.. Car was Pewter on black... BTW, Lease was up, car was MINT..
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look at sleeper x's old posts... he was at a 11.4 Package 5 Renntech... running HRE with Toyo T1R's i think.....

RennTech Extreme Pulley
CF Airbox
Headers
Throttle Body
Intercooler Pump

that brings in the area of 600hp....

i have a vid of him doing a 11.4 pass
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Originally Posted by TuneTime
look at sleeper x's old posts... he was at a 11.4 Package 5 Renntech... running HRE with Toyo T1R's i think.....

RennTech Extreme Pulley
CF Airbox
Headers
Throttle Body
Intercooler Pump

that brings in the area of 600hp....

i have a vid of him doing a 11.4 pass
What is the RennTech Extreme Pulley? I thought they only had one pulley (168mm)? Do they have a new bigger pulley?
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
What is the RennTech Extreme Pulley? I thought they only had one pulley (168mm)? Do they have a new bigger pulley?
i think its 172mm and must be done with the intercooler pump upgrade (otherwise hit heat soak and end up slowing the car down)... and comes with a different water pump pulley to fit the new charger pulley... good for another 10/15 on top of the regular pulley/ecu package....


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