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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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Friend just got an IS F. Not interested in comments on their styling etc...only performance.

How do we fare? E63 wise.

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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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Friend just got an IS F. Not interested in comments on their styling etc...only performance.

How do we fare? E63 wise.

Rape, kill, maim. They're not as fast as the new M3.
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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Yeah as far as I know the e63 should destroy the ISF...stock vs stock
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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Gr8 to hear!
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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Slow ... relatively speaking but its their first year trying to play with the big boys.

The wifey works for Lexus so I might have one soon. Not bad to have an IS-F as a third car along with the M6 and 997TT IMO.
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head
Rape, kill, maim. They're not as fast as the new M3.
don't know about that. b/w the IS-F and M3, i believe they're very close in straight line performance and it'll be a driver's race.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oyQS...eature=related
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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don't know about that. b/w the IS-F and M3, i believe they're very close in straight line performance and it'll be a driver's race.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oyQS...eature=related
With M-DCT, the M3 will ruin it. The 6-speed is not for these motors, just a way to cater to enthusiasts.
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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IS-F traps 113-114 while the E55 should trap 114-116 so the E should pull slightly..........

Having said that, I ran a CLS55 in my IS-F from about 35-90 (hardly a race) and we were about even. I would love to run a stock E55 or a stock CLS55 (or 63 for that matter) anytime.

I am coordinating the next 60-130 competition at Lonestar and would offer up my IS-F in a side by side race on the drag strip. We can run them from a dig and a roll. Here is the detail on the event if anyone is interested:

OK, it's about that time again folks!!!!! We haven't had a 60-130 event since TX2K8 and it's time for us to have another excuse to get together. Since it's been SOOOOOOOOO hot outside, I would like to do this next event at night...

Location: www.lonestarmotorsportspark.com

Day/Date: Saturday July 26, 2008

Gates Open: 8:00 pm

Track Hot: 9:00 pm - 12:00 am (midnight)

Caravan Information: Meet at the Conoco at the corner of I-10 and Eldridge at 7:00 pm. Let's get a large group together so we can all caravan out together!!!!!!

Cost: $50 to race and $10 to spectate just like always
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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I can't view the video posted from the office but there are video's posted where the 6-speed M3 is slightly slower than the IS-F in gear. THe M-DCT is like a manual in that there is no slip/loss through the tranny and therefore in gear the result would be no different.

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With M-DCT, the M3 will ruin it. The 6-speed is not for these motors, just a way to cater to enthusiasts.
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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If anyone in Houston would like to bring a video camera and tape a run b/w my IS-F and a stock CLS/E/55/63 I would be happy to have a "friendly" race.
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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Here's a good video of a comparison between the C63 vs. IS-F vs. M3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXIIi...eature=related
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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I will be posting a new thread regarding the ISF, 2007 M6 and 2008 F430 Spider. To answer your question quickly, I raced (for 10 miles) a brand new ISF in my E63. I will get into the specifics of the story on my other post (extremely funny circumstance), but the ISF did have 4 people in the car. I had one other with me, two total. We raced mostly on the highway, usually from around 30MPH to 150MPH. The E63 won by such a margin I actually wondered if the ISF was running correctly. It got so bad that I actually gave him a little jump, between half and a full car length at 30MPH and then nailed it. We blew by him and had 3 car lengths at 150MPH.

Again, the ISF did have 4 people in it...
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 06:17 PM
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isnt the ISF lighter then the e63? If sothe people between both cars might have made the weight a little more even of a race.
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Whatever happens. GET IT ON VIDEO or so help me I'll
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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Again, I am putting myself out there and offering a friendly race for anyone in Houston with a stock E55/63 or CLS 55/63. I am also ok with whomever would like to run to bring a camera and video tape the run. Finally, I am offering an OPEN INVITE to all of you to the July 26th event at Lonestar. Not much more I can do...
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by houstonT
Again, I am putting myself out there and offering a friendly race for anyone in Houston with a stock E55/63 or CLS 55/63. I am also ok with whomever would like to run to bring a camera and video tape the run. Finally, I am offering an OPEN INVITE to all of you to the July 26th event at Lonestar. Not much more I can do...
Peter

Wish I could....too far away
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by houstonT
Again, I am putting myself out there and offering a friendly race for anyone in Houston with a stock E55/63 or CLS 55/63. I am also ok with whomever would like to run to bring a camera and video tape the run. Finally, I am offering an OPEN INVITE to all of you to the July 26th event at Lonestar. Not much more I can do...
Peter
Well, you could drive to Boston!

I'll even bring the video camera!
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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I had a chance to drive the IS-F , M3 and an M6 (manual) at the track three weeks ago for a "Car and Driver" article which will be published in October, 2008 I believe.

I do not own an E55 or E63 but I am guessing my M5 is close to these cars with rolling races. That being said, the IS-F (aside from the fake tailpipes, the car looks great BTW) has no chance vs an E55/E63 from a role (or dig for that matter).

Just a heads up for those C&D subscribers: the M3 is the overwhelming favorite (for track use) from the editors.


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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BTPower
I do not own an E55 or E63 but I am guessing my M5 is close to these cars with rolling races. That being said, the IS-F (aside from the fake tailpipes, the car looks great BTW) has no chance vs an E55/E63 from a role (or dig for that matter).

AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO BUT TO OFFER UP MY CAR FOR A RUN AND OFFER FOR SOMEONE TO BRING A VIDEO CAMERA AND TAPE IT!!!!! WHO IS GOING TO STEP UP? ANYONE? THIS IS ALL IN FUN AND I KNOW THAT MY LIL' OL' SLOW IS-F HAS NO CHANCE, SO LET'S LINE THEM UP AND POST THE VID!

Just a heads up for those C&D subscribers: the M3 is the overwhelming favorite (for track use) from the editors.

NO, YOU'RE KIDDING!!!!! C&D FAVORS A BMW??? AHHHHAHAHHAH THAT IS FUNNY!

Brian
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BTPower
I had a chance to drive the IS-F , M3 and an M6 (manual) at the track three weeks ago for a "Car and Driver" article which will be published in October, 2008 I believe.

I do not own an E55 or E63 but I am guessing my M5 is close to these cars with rolling races. That being said, the IS-F (aside from the fake tailpipes, the car looks great BTW) has no chance vs an E55/E63 from a role (or dig for that matter).

Just a heads up for those C&D subscribers: the M3 is the overwhelming favorite (for track use) from the editors.


Brian
...I was going to say....
I have seen several of these on the Hwy around here. Not at the track, but they always want to try and race... am usually game unless conditions arent good for it and whenever I nail each time i have wondered wether they were nailing it or not....in other words being several car lengths out in front of it. i personally think they are good looking cars for what they are, but in no way compete with the m5 or the E "AMG's". At least that is in my experience. We are planning a Nov 15 MIR drag track event if anyone with one of these ISF's would like to show up to it I am sure there are several AMG's such as myself that would be happy to have some freindly races
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I can't view the video posted from the office but there are video's posted where the 6-speed M3 is slightly slower than the IS-F in gear. THe M-DCT is like a manual in that there is no slip/loss through the tranny and therefore in gear the result would be no different.

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You're completely missing the point here, the M-DCT is a 7-speed wheras the manual is a 6-speed. The closer gear ratios match the rev-happy nature of the engine perfectly. In-gear it is going to be significatly quicker. 0-60 times improve by .2 seconds with M-DCT. Sorry to ruin your party.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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Ok. Let's be real here. The IS F would not get killed or raped by a benz and it's certainly not a "slow" car like some of you have mentioned. It would challenge and/or even beat ANY NON AMG Benz with the exception of the CL, S,SL classes etc. In other words, the C, CLK and E classes are all fair game as far as I'm concern. How about that. Don't be bias just keep it real please. For any of you that disagrees, please explain, show a vid or something of any of the NON AMG CLASS cars raping or killing an IS F
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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but how does comparing the performace division at Lexus to the non-performance (non-AMG merc cars) make sense? If you want to do that comparison, do non lexus "F" cars versus non-AMG merc cars.

I dont think anyone siad the IS-f was slow. I have had a similiar experience with a blue IS-F on the highway and I was surprised. I expected the car to be quicker and keep up more so. Its just that E55s and E63s are faster, thats all.
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