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Old 08-04-2008, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04
Ok there buddy first of all I'm not bragging at all. I just wanted to share something I caught on camera. Where is this MIR event so I can have my wife record me pulling on you?
no offense, but i would have believed you if you weren't swearing and so personal about the other driver in the video. Sounded a bit too serious there about taking him out and bragging your car was better.

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Sweet video and glad to see you had fun!

Right when the video started, before looking at your location, I knew it was New York! So recognizable. I miss it.

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Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04
Where is this event being held at?
If you look at the first sticky on the w211 forum, you will see all of the details. A few of the guys up here are bringing their highly modded and very fast e55's, they run mid 11's. I'm trying to convince a friend of mine with a bone stock 55 to drive down with me... he and I aren't really sure who's car is faster - it seems like mine above 80, his from 10-70, all bets are off on a street launch.
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Originally Posted by Zax63
If you look at the first sticky on the w211 forum, you will see all of the details. A few of the guys up here are bringing their highly modded and very fast e55's, they run mid 11's. I'm trying to convince a friend of mine with a bone stock 55 to drive down with me... he and I aren't really sure who's car is faster - it seems like mine above 80, his from 10-70, all bets are off on a street launch.
how fast is the new kleemann bi-turbo e63?
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hey im kind of interested in the MIR meet, but it would be my first time going to the track. Do i need a helmet? can i rent there if i do or do i have to buy one?
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Originally Posted by rahulanand1130
hey im kind of interested in the MIR meet, but it would be my first time going to the track. Do i need a helmet? can i rent there if i do or do i have to buy one?
I am pretty sure you will need a helmet, and your car has to pass a "techincal inspection". Go to the track's website and read its policies very carefully. You need to adhere pretty much to the letter on a track's rules and policies, or no run.

Most times you can borrow a helmet from the people showing up, unless you have a huge mug like mine, or are running Jerry-curl all over your hair.

You'll have fun, don't be nervous.
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that is one of the saddest examples of a race I have ever seen. Your broken in 55 vs an unbroken in 63...in tons of traffic to top it off.

nice kill.......NOT....


One more example of how far down and fast this forum is going....


+1...

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Originally Posted by rahulanand1130
hey im kind of interested in the MIR meet, but it would be my first time going to the track. Do i need a helmet? can i rent there if i do or do i have to buy one?
Good news, you have plenty of time to go to a track near you to practice prior to 11/15! If you go to ATCO, my guess is Oldgixxer will be lurking around there, and he appears to be quite the drag-racing bad*ss. I'd say to PM him, but apparently he has been banned around here for not "complying". The drag racing sticky is good, but expect not to be that great your first few runs, it is hard to get a handle on a good launch... I'm still not that great and I've brought the benz 4 or 5 times. The other good news is that some of the better guys around at launching will be there to give you tips. You do need a helmet, which you can get for about 100 bucks at any motorcycle store, just check the tracks required snell rating and make sure the helmet meets the rating... for that reason I would only buy a used one if it is recent vintage. But you should definitely come, just make sure your IC pump is working, a cheap fix and something that appears to break on many 55s, and will slow you down dramatically if it is malfunctioning. Z
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no offense, but i would have believed you if you weren't swearing and so personal about the other driver in the video. Sounded a bit too serious there about taking him out and bragging your car was better.
Well the reason why I was swearing was because I got a little excited when I actually saw that my car was pulling on his. I was a little carried away but still not bragging. You see it your way still doesn't matter to me.
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Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04
Well the reason why I was swearing was because I got a little excited when I actually saw that my car was pulling on his. I was a little carried away but still not bragging. You see it your way still doesn't matter to me.
Dude! If I run in to an E63 and don't pull on him, I'll be shocked!

























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I've raced plenty of 55's, including on the track. There are a few vids around here evidencing so. The 55 (in stock form) is SLOW and will always loose to the 63 (too much torque and not enough horse power). It's always about some guy, somewhere else, that posted a great time (at the track without a 63 to represent). Every 55 I have raced has LOST and there have been plenty of people around to witness.
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Originally Posted by gE63
I've raced plenty of 55's, including on the track. There are a few vids around here evidencing so. The 55 (in stock form) is SLOW and will always loose to the 63 (too much torque and not enough horse power). It's always about some guy, somewhere else, that posted a great time (at the track without a 63 to represent). Every 55 I have raced has LOST and there have been plenty of people around to witness.
"not enough hp"??? the 55 is only down 14hp to the 63. "too much tq"... and i can't even comment on your "slow" remark because i'm laughing so hard.
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
"not enough hp"??? the 55 is only down 14hp to the 63. "too much tq"... and i can't even comment on your "slow" remark because i'm laughing so hard.
Aside from him taking mb claims of hp on the cars, how do you justify 14hp less?
From what i have seen dyno wise, credit is in the 55k dyno if we are talking rw hp stock numbers
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Aside from him taking mb claims of hp on the cars, how do you justify 14hp less?
From what i have seen dyno wise, credit is in the 55k dyno if we are talking rw hp stock numbers
it's widely accepted by the modding community that the e55 makes the same 493hp as the other 55k cars of it's time. compare that to the e63's 507hp and you can see where i get the 14hp difference.

...i have no idea what your second statement means.
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
it's widely accepted by the modding community that the e55 makes the same 493hp as the other 55k cars of it's time. compare that to the e63's 507hp and you can see where i get the 14hp difference.

...i have no idea what your second statement means.
I and you know it makes roughly 500hp, i was reffering to the HP number that E55k were getting on the dyno and the hp number that the E63 were getting.
Still though they are pretty close regardless
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Originally Posted by gE63
I've raced plenty of 55's, including on the track. There are a few vids around here evidencing so. The 55 (in stock form) is SLOW and will always loose to the 63 (too much torque and not enough horse power). It's always about some guy, somewhere else, that posted a great time (at the track without a 63 to represent). Every 55 I have raced has LOST and there have been plenty of people around to witness.
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Thats gE63 aka Greg having fun with you guys... he knows where his 63 stands. Of course he also knows where his Stang stands
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Originally Posted by gE63
I've raced plenty of 55's, including on the track. There are a few vids around here evidencing so. The 55 (in stock form) is SLOW and will always loose to the 63 (too much torque and not enough horse power). It's always about some guy, somewhere else, that posted a great time (at the track without a 63 to represent). Every 55 I have raced has LOST and there have been plenty of people around to witness.
I'm not sure if you know that your on the W211 thread and not W210. You said EVERY 55 you ever raced was slow, well post a video up of you walking a E55 because obviously all those people that were there to witness you beating the E55 are not in this thread.
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Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04
I'm not sure if you know that your on the W211 thread and not W210. You said EVERY 55 you ever raced was slow, well post a video up of you walking a E55 because obviously all those people that were there to witness you beating the E55 are not in this thread.
I think he was joking...to get a rise out of everyone....but don't let me stop you... it is kind of amusing...

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I researched this to help not to pick one over the other...(keep in mind I don't own either)

E55 drag times: http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes

E63 dragtimes:http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
Edmunds.com specs
E55 stock: 469 HP, 575 torque, 0-60 4.5, curb weight: 4087
E63 stock: 507 hp, 465 torque, 0-60 4.2, curb weight: 4035

So quite frankly guys its a drivers race based off these specs. In my opinion the E63 has a better look but the E55 has way cheaper mods and easier to modify. No reason to act like one is honestly way faster then the other cause these specs just don't make it seem so. If this was a C32 vs. a C63 stock for stock comparison I would understand but its not its comparing 2 very close spec cars. The difference in HP is +38 to E63 but torque is +110 E55. Its takes one post to start a slugfest between owners.

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Originally Posted by c32used
I researched this to help not to pick one over the other...(keep in mind I don't own either)

E55 drag times: http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes

E63 dragtimes:http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes

E55 stock: 469 HP, 575 torque, 0-60 4.5, curb weight: 4087

E63 stock: 507 hp, 465 torque, 0-60 4.2, curb weight: 4035

So quite frankly guys its a drivers race based off these specs. In my opinion the E63 has a better look but the E55 has way cheaper mods and easier to modify. No reason to act like one is honestly way faster then the other cause these specs just don't make it seem so. If this was a C32 vs. a C63 stock for stock comparison I would understand but its not its comparing 2 very close spec cars. The difference in HP is +38 to E63 but torque is +110 E55. Its takes one post to start a slugfest between owners.
E55 stock: 469 HP is not true though, it's more like 496-500 on dynos & the E63 is heavier so (must stir pot, stir stir stir )
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E55 stock: 469 HP is not true though, it's more like 496-500 on dynos & the E63 is heavier so (must stir pot, stir stir stir )
I don't own either so I can't speak for either.
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I will say I am a huge fan of the CLS55
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so the e55 now has 575 ft. lbs. in stock for?
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Originally Posted by Mr Kram
so the e55 now has 575 ft. lbs. in stock for?
No way, he mistyped, misread, or was just misinformed.... 516 is the stock rating but of course on our dynos the number has been higher.


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