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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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335i vs C63!!!

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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 12:08 AM
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I love it when a modded FI car runs up against a stock N/A vehicle, and the owner thinks he's hot ****.
I ran a stock 335i from 40-100 and it was over before it even started.
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I love it when a modded FI car runs up against a stock N/A vehicle, and the owner thinks he's hot ****.
I ran a stock 335i from 40-100 and it was over before it even started.
Who cares? Yours has more than double the displacement of a 335i, and is not exactly stock either.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 01:47 AM
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Who cares? Yours has more than double the displacement of a 335i, and is not exactly stock either.
Actually it was bone stock, but thanks for attempting to comment on something you know nothing about.

FI is the great equalizer, potential HP/TQ isn't based on the cylinder heads or displacement (as when N/A) just the size of the turbo/blower itself.

My point was simply you can't compare any modded car to any stock car, the difference is even greater when pitting a modified FI vehicle v a N/A stocker.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 02:03 AM
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Actually it was bone stock, but thanks for attempting to comment on something you know nothing about.

FI is the great equalizer, potential HP/TQ isn't based on the cylinder heads or displacement (as when N/A) just the size of the turbo/blower itself.

My point was simply you can't compare any modded car to any stock car, the difference is even greater when pitting a modified FI vehicle v a N/A stocker.
Thanks for attempting to comment on my knowledge of the subject.
Well, I guess it would have been perfectly Ok for you if you had won? Noone forced you to buy a N/A car, right? So why whining now? A win is a win, a loss is a loss, no matter what the opponent's car has under hood.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by vadim
Thanks for attempting to comment on my knowledge of the subject.
I happened to make a factual statement, you attempted to comment on a situation of which you have/had no knowledge whatsoever; my car was 100% stock down to the charcoal filters. You mentioning the 200%+ difference in displacement as an excuse for FI was just icing on the cake.

Well, I guess it would have been perfectly Ok for you if you had won? Noone forced you to buy a N/A car, right? So why whining now? A win is a win, a loss is a loss, no matter what the opponent's car has under hood.
Might want to brush up on your RC skills, you'll never find me whining anywhere, and I destroyed the 335i I raced as I posted above.
If I wanted a 335 I think it's safe to say I could've had one--obviously I didn't.
BTW, what do you think happens when you twin turbo a 6.2/4v?

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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 02:27 AM
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I happened to make a factual statement, you attempted to comment on a situation of which you have/had no knowledge whatsoever; my car was 100% stock down to the charcoal filters. You mentioning the 200%+ difference in displacement as an excuse for FI was just icing on the cake.

Might want to brush up on your RC skills, you'll never find me whining anywhere, and I destroyed the 335i I raced as I posted above.
If I wanted a 335 I think it's safe to say I could've had one--obviously I didn't.
BTW, what do you think happens when you twin turbo a 6.2/4v?
Your own words: "I love it when a modded FI car runs up against a stock N/A vehicle, and the owner thinks he's hot ****".

A priori, you don't know what mods he's got, just like he does not know what you've got. It is a fair race. If you go for it, do not look for any excuses. That was my point, if it is not clear.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 02:36 AM
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Your own words: "I love it when a modded FI car runs up against a stock N/A vehicle, and the owner thinks he's hot ****".

A priori, you don't know what mods he's got, just like he does not know what you've got. It is a fair race. If you go for it, do not look for any excuses. That was my point, if it is not clear.
Like I said, you don't read so well do you?

It says quite clearly in the linked thread that the C63 was stock and had a passenger and the 335i was modded/solo:

i have a AFE intake, SSTT and was running quarter of a tank of GT100 100 octane straight.
also on 18's and im a AT e92 335i, i was by myself.
If your point was run what you brung, I don't think anyone's disputing that. However it is comical to compare a modified FI car running race gas to a N/A stocker.

...and again I easily won my race so...LOL, anything else?

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Originally Posted by MHP
I love it when a modded FI car runs up against a stock N/A vehicle, and the owner thinks he's hot ****.
I ran a stock 335i from 40-100 and it was over before it even started.
Reading the E90 post I dont think the owner was hot sh^t. I think he was just excited that he was able to keep up with you... I am sure we all would be doing the same on our respective boards if the shoe was on the other foot... And your absolutely right in comparing any modded car to a stock car... its like apples and oranges... You have a great car... have fun with it!
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from 40 to 110 its a good pull .. but not enough to see the true potential of both cars..

there is no kill involved in this story...

"LET's not bring the my car cost $45k, your car is $65k" argument...

nobody disrespects the capabilities of a twin turbo engine.. Ford is about to unleash a 3.5 TT and hopefull MB sticks to their word about FI cars.


For now.. BMW has the leg up with Fuel Effiency and Power capabilities...
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Reading the E90 post I dont think the owner was hot sh^t. I think he was just excited that he was able to keep up with you... I am sure we all would be doing the same on our respective boards if the shoe was on the other foot... And your absolutely right in comparing any modded car to a stock car... its like apples and oranges... You have a great car... have fun with it!
Fair enough.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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For now.. BMW has the leg up with Fuel Effiency and Power capabilities...
When comparing 6s, I'd agree, when comparing top of the line performance segment engines (5.0L V10 v 6.2L V8) I have to disagree. There's simply so much potential left in a 6.2 it's not even funny. You can only do so much with 5.0L that already spins past 8000rpm.
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When comparing 6s, I'd agree, when comparing top of the line performance segment engines (5.0L V10 v 6.2L V8) I have to disagree. There's simply so much potential left in a 6.2 it's not even funny. You can only do so much with 5.0L that already spins past 8000rpm.
only speaking in terms of FI engines...

but I agree.. the 6.2L AMG has potential..
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