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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RENNSTAGE
the thing about a hidden system is that its......HIDDEN lol
you are more than welcome to attend and search my car for a "hidden system" furthermore, I will pay you $10,000 if you find a hidden system on my car....because there is not one!
Old Sep 8, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Understood. Just for the record, I do believe you. I simply don't think you will find the conditions nearly as favorable when we run. Second, I have been very clear to keep your witnesses out of this. I absolutely believe they witnessed your car hauling tail. The only question I have is were you juicing that day? The only reason I wonder that is because you had said before that you were the fastest of teh bunch that day and I find it hard to believe.
For the record, my BEAST was NOT present at this sanctioned event! There may have been different results had it been!

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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jangy
I need all the help I can get
If neither of you is allowed N2O I can quite confidently say you're toast and would be willing to get in on the betting. Reply or P.M. if you want to cover any additional $$$.
Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jangy
Understood. Just for the record, I do believe you. I simply don't think you will find the conditions nearly as favorable when we run. Second, I have been very clear to keep your witnesses out of this. I absolutely believe they witnessed your car hauling tail. The only question I have is were you juicing that day? The only reason I wonder that is because you had said before that you were the fastest of teh bunch that day and I find it hard to believe.
Jangy; The night I ran my 11.48 I was running at Route 66 Raceway in Joliet, IL, I was not on the bottle as already confirmed by member . I made one bottle pass that evening (the last of the night), smoked my tires and ran an 11.76.

Last weekend at the LET event most of my passes were on the bottle with a approx a 60 shot (.030 jets). I did however make a couple passes with the 100 shot (.040) jets installed. I also made a couple passes without any NOS.

My best pass without the bottle was a 11.7 on that day. My best pass of that day was a 11.4 as well.

I'm sure you are wondering why my best e/t on the bottle and off were so close, my pass on motor only was actually 10/1000th's quicker than on the bottle, all I can say is track conditions and air temp. Further proof that I was not spraying is my MPH. My motor only MPH was only 121 while my NOS 11.4 pass was nearly 124mph.

I'm not really sure why you have such a hard time believing what I am telling you, I don't know what else I can do to prove it to you. I have video, time slpis and numerous witnesses as well as an internet in which you can research weather conditions and track facts on your own.

Sorry to say it Jangy, but the 55's time at the top is coming to a quick end.

As for our bet, and the wager. If you do not want to pay a Pay Pal fee we can wire transfer the funds to a non-interested 3rd party. I would prefer to not do it this way with people I have never met before, but I am trying to be flexible. I will not pack up my car and ship it west without both of our funds being sent to a secure location. If one of us does not show up at the event for ANY reason that will be considered a forfiture and the person that showed up gets ALL the money.

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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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You know Vic is laughing his *** off and has no intention of interrupting the entertainment.
I wish there was an emoticon for spitting out a drink cause Rock called it.

This is entertainment but it must remain at this level with nothing getting personal in relation to attacks (I have not seen any yet).

The two involved parties are arguably two of the most outspoken members on the site but I think will somehow they will come to a resolve.

But for all the members from the peanut gallery, let these two set the stakes, the location, and the rules and then we can all drive or fly out to watch and see what happens. I guarantee the emotions would be different if it was face to face and there would be respect- or at least I hope.

Money can make almost any car faster- so good luck.
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Originally Posted by Fast55
If neither of you is allowed N2O I can quite confidently say you're toast and would be willing to get in on the betting. Reply or P.M. if you want to cover any additional $$$.
Who's gonna be toast, him or I?
Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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Send the money to my Swiss bank account.

I bet this will never happen. And if it does, I want to be there!!!
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Vic55
I wish there was an emoticon for spitting out a drink cause Rock called it.

This is entertainment but it must remain at this level with nothing getting personal in relation to attacks (I have not seen any yet).

The two involved parties are arguably two of the most outspoken members on the site but I think will somehow they will come to a resolve.

But for all the members from the peanut gallery, let these two set the stakes, the location, and the rules and then we can all drive or fly out to watch and see what happens. I guarantee the emotions would be different if it was face to face and there would be respect- or at least I hope.

Money can make almost any car faster- so good luck.

For all the heat that gets generated on the forum I'd imagine that none of it would translate at the track. Odds are these two would be high-fiving the entire time. This is what happens when you put two type-A personalities in close quarters and give them something that they're passionate about to discuss.

It's all fun and games until someone looses traction.
Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Send the money to my Swiss bank account.

I bet this will never happen. And if it does, I want to be there!!!
Dude, it's gonna happen, unless Jangy backs out. I already asked one of my drivers if he was interested in some over-time, I have an airline ticket confirmation I can send you and hotel reservations at the PALMS. I'm also talking my Dymags back to the tire place to get the tires put back on the front wheels. I'll send them back to Dymag after the race. I'm not going to risk anything, 50 pounds is 50 pounds.

I''ll send the money to you, I trust you...I think
Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head
For all the heat that gets generated on the forum I'd imagine that none of it would translate at the track. Odds are these two would be high-fiving the entire time. This is what happens when you put two type-A personalities in close quarters and give them something that they're passionate about to discuss.

It's all fun and games until someone looses traction.
LOL! I never said I wouldn't buy him a hooker or two with my winnings...I'm a real sore loser but a pretty good winner. Sure, I'll put it up in his face, flame him on this board a little if I win, but there's no reason we can't go out for a night in Sin City and behave like complete idiots together.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jrcart
Who's gonna be toast, him or I?
Obviously his 55. On street tires I'm barely into the 11's on a good track. Only way my car or his would see an 11.4X is on juice.
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Send the money to my Swiss bank account.
Sorry Ahmad, I beat you to it
Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Fast55
Obviously his 55. On street tires I'm barely into the 11's on a good track. Only way my car or his would see an 11.4X is on juice.
Let me clarify one thing, I'm not running on street tires, well they are street legal, but I ran my 11.48 on Mickey Thompson Street E/T's. My fastest pass on the 19" Pirelli Corsa tires was an 11.61, again motor only, in fact did not even have NOS installed yet. NOS is less than 2 weeks old.

If he or anyone else is expecting me to run on the Corsas they're nut's.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jrcart
Last weekend at the LET event most of my passes were on the bottle with a approx a 60 shot (.030 jets). I did however make a couple passes with the 100 shot (.040) jets installed. I also made a couple passes without any NOS.
With dual injectors I would assume the jet sizes are for two to come up with your power levels otherwise you have a way off jet chart?

A single .030 jet is only 35hp and a .040 jet is 62hp and even these numbers vary on the size of the solenoid, bottle pressure, and line size.

From the looks of your lines you are running a dry shot? Do you have a wide-band installed to see what your A/F levels are or dyno'd to see if the nitrous is making the power it should?
Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fast55
Obviously his 55. On street tires I'm barely into the 11's on a good track. Only way my car or his would see an 11.4X is on juice.
Actually, there are a few stage 5 E55s running 11.40s to 11.60s on a good track. I think the two cars will actually be very close in timing, and the race will be decided by the driver; more specifically, by the 60' and reaction time and whoever launches their car better.

However, Jim's car is becoming increasingly strong, and keeps on getting quicker and faster, and soon will be in the low 11s range WITHOUT nos. If MHP's TCU really works and unlocks the torque limits, then Jcart's car should easily be in the 11.20 range with a good launch.
Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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Rule # 1: No NOS!
THEN THAT'S NO FUN!!

If all motor and a straight line race...my money is on Jangy.
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With dual injectors I would assume the jet sizes are for two to come up with your power levels otherwise you have a way off jet chart?

A single .030 jet is only 35hp and a .040 jet is 62hp and even these numbers vary on the size of the solenoid, bottle pressure, and line size.

From the looks of your lines you are running a dry shot? Do you have a wide-band installed to see what your A/F levels are or dyno'd to see if the nitrous is making the power it should?
Yes it is for dual injectors

The calculations/figures the installer gave me based on jets and solenoids I am using show me at about 60-65 total for the .030 and 90 for the .040 jets.

Yes, I have WB gauge installed and it has been dyno's as well. I don't cut any corners, especially on a $45,000 engine
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Is anyone going out to Vegas for the weekend? Other than Jangy and Jrcart?
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Actually, there are a few stage 5 E55s running 11.40s to 11.60s on a good track. I think the two cars will actually be very close in timing, and the race will be decided by the driver; more specifically, by the 60' and reaction time and whoever launches their car better.

However, Jim's car is becoming increasingly strong, and keeps on getting quicker and faster, and soon will be in the low 11s range WITHOUT nos. If MHP's TCU really works and unlocks the torque limits, then Jcart's car should easily be in the 11.20 range with a good launch.
I put down consistant 1.70-1.75 60's on the MT's, by consistant I mean 6 in a row on my last time out at the track.

On the Corsas I lay down consistant 1.80's, again by consistant I did 5 passes in a row ranging from 1.802-1.815...5 passes all within 13/1000ths of each other.

I have the slips to prove it for any doubters out there


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