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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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I guess there is one more thing we need to clarify, since we are going from a tree on a test & tune night I asume they will not have the "red light" feature activated. Therefore the race will be side by side, and the car/driver with the lowest E/T will be the race winner. I'm not gonna let you jump the start and beat me to the finish line but post a slower E/T.

Here is what I propose.

You can have anyone you want inspect my car for your "imaginary hidden bottle".

You can disconnect my NOS lines where they feed into my intake and have somebody hold my bottle...it just adds 30 pounds to my car anyway

Anything else goes

Side By side race so we have the exact same conditions

I will give you lane choice

1/4 mile on a tree no Red light active

Quickest E/T wins...PERIOD Best 1 of 1 takes the cash!

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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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wow...you guys are outta control!!! BTW what does a CLK black series weigh? Im thinking a CLK Black series weighs much less than an E55. Comparing apples to apples would be an E55 to an E63. Anyways, any motor can go fast...give me enough money...i could make a YUGO beat the hell out of both you guys.

But in all reality, JRcart appears to to have more money to throw around hence...he has the advantage...
Old Sep 8, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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best time? i think you guys should race for whoever pass's the finish line first
Old Sep 8, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
There is no way in hell you can run 20 hot laps at a test and tune at a busy track. Plus thats just crazy. The faster car can be determined in best of 3 runs. Max best of 5.
I'm not even gonna make 3 or 5 passes. It's one race for the cash, winner take all. He can make all the practice, set-up passes he wants to. The truth is that I will only need 1 or 2 practice passes to get a feel for the track and to make a decision on my launch teqnique. My car is very consistant, I have run at 3 different track in the past 30 days and ALL my 60' times very VERY consistant from track to track to track. I am confident in my car and my skills.

Jangy on the other hand will not have a clue since it sounds like he is currently having some major "stuff" done to his car, I'm guessing it's gonna hurt him more than it helps him, a little to much spooling up on the line or to agresive on the right peddle and POOF, there go the tires and the $10K

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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RENNSTAGE
best time? i think you guys should race for whoever pass's the finish line first
Ya, so he can leave early and win....sounds like a great idea.
Old Sep 8, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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Damn this is intense.

I would do the best of 3 or 5 at least.
Old Sep 8, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jrcart
I'm not even gonna make 3 or 5 passes. It's one race for the cash, winner take all.
So a TRUE race, thats how I would have it
Old Sep 8, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Shake
Damn this is intense.

I would do the best of 3 or 5 at least.
Why bother? I'm confident enough to put all the money on the line with 1 pass. Besides that, I'm gonna show up make 1-2 practice passes, run the race, load my car on the hauler and head off to spend my winnings at The Spearmint Rhino or Seamless. It's gonna be hard enough for me to stay sober from 9:00am when my fligh lands in Vegas until 5:00 at the track. Whenever I'm in Vegas I'm in FULL-PARTY mode so I just want to get the race done and get on with the sinning and filth that Vegas is so famous for

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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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Its up to Jim and Jangy in relation to the particulars but its about having the fastest car right? Or the best driver? Or both?
Old Sep 8, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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racing for best 60ft is LAME Best ET period or take it to the street and do a 40-150 roll on.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 04:16 PM
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Jangy, I need to know if this is really going to go down. Is your car ready to go or is it in the shop having additional mods done? I need to have my car loaded up in the hauler and have a driver(s) ready to pull out of my place early Wednesday morning in order to ensure I get the car out there by Friday afternoon.
Old Sep 8, 2008 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jrcart
I guess there is one more thing we need to clarify, since we are going from a tree on a test & tune night I asume they will not have the "red light" feature activated. Therefore the race will be side by side, and the car/driver with the lowest E/T will be the race winner. I'm not gonna let you jump the start and beat me to the finish line but post a slower E/T.

Here is what I propose.

You can have anyone you want inspect my car for your "imaginary hidden bottle".

You can disconnect my NOS lines where they feed into my intake and have somebody hold my bottle...it just adds 30 pounds to my car anyway

Anything else goes

Side By side race so we have the exact same conditions

I will give you lane choice

1/4 mile on a tree no Red light active

Quickest E/T wins...PERIOD Best 1 of 1 takes the cash!
My observations - If you are racing for this much cash, it isn't really "fair" to run one race. One lane may be better than the other, a car preceding either of you may have left some fluid at the tree, etc. You are not going to know how the track is hooking without making a run first.

Can't you guys rent the track? If it costs $2k to rent the track on a Friday morning or a Thursday, why not just agree to split that cost. You guys are already agreeing to part with way more than that.

And, fwiw, I agree that ET should be the determining factor here, not who crosses the line first. It aggravates the hell out of me when someone implies that their car is faster than mine because they crossed the line first, or I redlighted, and totally ignore that I had an e/t that is 3/10's quicker and 3 mph higher than what they just ran.
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Originally Posted by enzom
It aggravates the hell out of me when someone implies that their car is faster than mine because they crossed the line first, or I redlighted, and totally ignore that I had an e/t that is 3/10's quicker and 3 mph higher than what they just ran.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by enzom
My observations - If you are racing for this much cash, it isn't really "fair" to run one race. One lane may be better than the other, a car preceding either of you may have left some fluid at the tree, etc. You are not going to know how the track is hooking without making a run first.

Can't you guys rent the track? If it costs $2k to rent the track on a Friday morning or a Thursday, why not just agree to split that cost. You guys are already agreeing to part with way more than that.

And, fwiw, I agree that ET should be the determining factor here, not who crosses the line first. It aggravates the hell out of me when someone implies that their car is faster than mine because they crossed the line first, or I redlighted, and totally ignore that I had an e/t that is 3/10's quicker and 3 mph higher than what they just ran.
It's not the rental fees, the track is not available for rental this weekend, they have events planned all weekend. The Test & Tune is going to be our best bet. I am giving him lane choice. I am going to make 1 or 2 practice runs, I alreday stated that he can make as many practice runs as he wants.

I feel I am being more than fair, after all he is the one that challenged me to the race.

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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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jrcart---how old are you??

you sound like a 18year old ricer wanted to prove something.......race for fun or money but be cool about it....
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So just to confirm the race will be this friday (09-12-08) at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway (LVMS)?

Jangy vs Jcart

ET will be the determining factor for winning?
Old Sep 8, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Okay, so it seems that both party agree on where to send the money, how much to send, where and when to race, but now we have the issue of the actual terms. Instead of arguing back and forth on the terms and what constitutes a win, why not do it the same way the official NHRA races do it? Use the same set of rules that they already use (which I don't really fully know by the way but I'm sure the drag experts will chime in) since that much money is involved
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...Best 60 foot. I'll be all in the 1.6s...
things may change once mhp releases their tcu tune but at the moment there are only a limited few (current) e55's capable of getting into the 1.6's. you better understand that what you think you/your car can do and what can actually be done are entirely different things.
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Originally Posted by jangy
Here is your reply. You really think a 63 is going to pull an 11.4 in Vegas at this time of year?
No, but neither will your car. What I am saying is that without more mods than you have, you won't be quicker or faster than the CLK. Again, just let me know if you have more money to spend.
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
Okay, so it seems that both party agree on where to send the money, how much to send, where and when to race, but now we have the issue of the actual terms. Instead of arguing back and forth on the terms and what constitutes a win, why not do it the same way the official NHRA races do it? Use the same set of rules that they already use (which I don't really fully know by the way but I'm sure the drag experts will chime in) since that much money is involved
I don't think we should use the "red light" feature on the tree as they would in a NHRA event. $10k is a lot of money to lose in 11 seconds, should either one of us leave 1/100th of a second early, even my hard nosed azz would feel guilty taking the money from Jangy if he left a split second early. I wnat to know who is the better car/driver combo. If he wants to use it I will use it, but I think it is in both of our best interest to not have to worry about red lighting. I agree we should be side by side on the same tree, so we both run in the exact same conditions, but we should base it on the E/T printed on the bottom of the slip. I have already offered up chioce of lanes to him.

Now I just need to confirm he is going to be there, I have a little more preparation and travel time involved than he does, my 2 days vs. his 4 hours.


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