e55 baller

530rwhp and 508rwtq. Less than the VRP 700 package but of course much lighter weight. Add DR's and I bet high 10's @131 are common this fall/winter.

http://www.dragtimes.com/2009-Chevro...phs-16437.html

MHP

FWIW, it will make 700rw on 93 with CAI, smaller pulley, exhaust and tune.

Thericker

Looks like he did something to it already?? Look at the chart

Addicted2Speed

530whp is absolutely pathetic. A regular C6 with a bolt-on supercharger makes a lot more for less than half the price (while looking 99% the same)... not sure what everyone is getting so exited about

An LS3 C6, (naturally aspired!) with bolt-ons can make 500whp. This is NA, not boosted:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-C...lip-12827.html

P.S. I'm not even talking about a twin-turbo C6... which is on a whole other level.

MHP

Regular C6s have cast pistons that won't hold up longterm at those power levels, C/R is too high as well. The numbers may not impress you for a stock car, but the ability to make 700rw+ is there with just bolt-ons and a tune.

Sean, looks like they tuned it to make the extra power.

Fikse

I thought the ZR1 would make more power as well..... that 566 number is after some tuning.....

The new Viper puts down more power.....

Addicted2Speed

You guys do realize that Z06 can make 580whp with bolt-ons, and its all linear N/A power with far more controllable power delivery that you can actually put down. Look at ZR1's dyno, it has 100wtq more at 3.5k RPM than it does at 6.5k RPM Not to mention Z06 is a much lighter car that will handle better. I just don't see what's so impressive about ZR1 that they are charging $120k for it. OK so it can make 600whp tuned, big freakin deal. C6 twin-turbo can make 1,000whp tuned If you're going to tune the car for maximum power, twin-turbo makes a whole lot more sense than a supercharger.

Not only does it put down more power, but more importantly, Viper actually looks like a car that costs $100k. ZR1 looks the same as a $40k C6. I think its pretty clear than GM is desperately trying to exploit their customers with the ZR1..

Thericker

It weighed in @ Quote "Exactly 170 pounds heavier than the Z06- most recently, 3180 pounds on our scale" The ZR1 will knock big hairy tenths off the 505-hp Z06's times.

They also improved the steering flex,w/new Steel column shaft.
& comes standard w/Magnetic selective ride control (variable shock absorbers) NOT available on the Z06, it improves body roll, & on hard launches the computer turns rear rebound to ZERO to hold the back end down for better traction.

Also has superior brakes, Brembo carbon-ceramic rotors (15.5 inches in frnt, 15.0 rear) & Monoblock calipers.

Any stock vehicle w/131mph Trap is something to respect, in perfect DA and pro hands this will easily be a mid 10 second 1/4 car

There are so many improvements over the Z06, it makes your statements quite sophomoric.

Have you even looked at pictures of the ZR1 vs reg C6All the fenders are different/wider w/working air scoops to cool the brakes, Rocker panels, Exhaust/wheels, the hood & front bumper, frnt lip, rear deck lid spoiler, roof, also there mostly made outt've Carbon Fiber. Why are you such a HATER, w/ZERO FACTS

ZR1



Yeah it looks just like a $40k C6






And before you start quoting mfr curb weight C&D states mfr @ 3350 lbs but as I said before after weighing it themselves it came in quite a bit lighter @ 3180 lbs. Even if it did weigh 3350lbs it wouldn't validate your previous statement

MHP

A C6 Z06 will not make 580rw with bolt-ons. There are a few reports of a few H/C + all bolt-on cars making right at or close to 600rw, but H/C doesn't count as a bolt-on.

MarkoCL65

Did anyone else get a kick out of this?

Thericker

Ohh my, that's a gem

I think his attitude toward the ZR1 is driven by the belief his lil' slk55 is the fastest car on the roads lol... Here's an excerpt from his Ebay add selling his almighty 530 Crank HP slk55 yet he thinks while his lil' slk55 makes 435 RWHP
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And he thinks it beats all these cars below in his add


Title: Kleemann 530hp SLK55 (faster than SL55 SL65 M3 M6 911 )

Mileage: 9,900 miles

Location: Miami, FL


Vehicle Information
VIN: WDBWK73F06F111410 | Get the Vehicle History Report
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CynCarvin32

Driven a lotus at the track? no mb or vette will ever be as fun, engaging, thrilling, and dynamic as a lotus. I dont care what MHP does to the tune or how much you strip off the car a lotus is an amazing machine.

Is it a drag car? Oh heck no! Is it a absolute blast that requires the driver to be alert and fluid with skill? Absolutely.

Well driven a lotus can Lap my local track just as fast as a Z-06 C6 with 190 hp vs 500 plus. And this is a track with very few slow sections. Not many cars stock can run a 1:32 at willow springs let alone one with 190 hp.

I know different strokes for different folks. Had to post it though.

neveo

plus 1

BlackOnBlackCLK

Here's some pics i took of the ZR1 it looks a lot different than a regular C6,from the brakes to the body panels...
the brake's are crazy

CWW

I got roasted by an elise a few months ago (in mexico). It was extra pathetic since my car has 400hp and the lotus only has something like 180hp. I was pulling on him at first, but then we got to a curve and I had to slow down, while he just kept on going through a 40 or 50-degree turn at 100+ without so much as tapping the brakes. I never managed to catch up with him after that, and my exit came up.

Don't get me wrong...lotus really isn't my bag of chips. I doubt I could fit my 6'4" fat azz into one if I tried, anyway. But I can definitely see why someone would want one. They seem to be very competent cars.

Zax63

There is nothing pathetic about a ZR1. It is an angry car that will eat and then poop anything on the road priced near it. Oh yeah, and then you can throw your golf bags and suitcases in the trunk and take it on a 500 mile road trip with the suspension set on soft and your wife won't divorce you. Try that in a Lotus and you'll make it 1 hr down the road, but golf bags on the roof are so unaerodynamic. A Z06 is a tremendous performance value, and if you put on stickier rubber, it is a tremendous track car as well, but the ZR1 is exceptional because it does both road and track well.

If you want to talk about "exploiting their customers", how about ferrari, lamborghini, or bentley charging upwards of 15k for the option of upgrading to essentially the same brakes that come standard on the ZR1? In addition, take a Z06 and upgrade it to the same spec as a ZR1 with daily driveability/durability in mind, including the carbon fiber lightening mods and adjustable suspension, and you will be way more expensive than 105k for a ZR1. For example, I seem to remember that the paint they use on the carbon fiber clearcoat costs more per gallon than most economy cars cost complete.

And if you want to talk looks similarity to the base model, how about our AMG E classes or your SLK? Yeah, we all can spot one from a mile away, but I'm guessing less than 10% of the population can. Fenders, aerokit, exhaust, wheels and stance separate my e63 from an e350, just like a base c6 vs. a ZR1.

05VENOM

Have you seen what the new ACR Viper is putting down on the dyno....pretty damn impressive. It also holds the record for around the 'ring at 7.22

05VENOM

especially with the AMG kit offered on the 350 now, would like some esthetic differences.

Jakpro1

Any of you Vette guys have more info on the ZR1 intercooler setup.

Pics?

Wondering if there is anything we can swipe/copy for our systems.

BlownV8

Dyno charts?

GasmanZ06

The supercharger sits on top of the twin brick intercoolers:

MHP

You won't see them for a while. I'm privy to a lot of info reg. pre production domestics and testing.
With nothing but a medium size pulley/CAI a LSA equipped CTS-V put down 607rwhp/605rwtq. With a smaller pulley they made over 650rw and this is just with a 1.9L TVS blower and more restrictive single brick IC (ZR1 uses a 2.3L (twin brick) just like the Ford Racing GT500 upgrade which has made 700rw+ on 93 octane on several cars to date). Just like on any PD blower app, it's the blower size itself, not the motor behind it, that dictates peak HP/TQ numbers.
I saw a ZR1 dyno over a year ago, at the time the car had just a moderate size pulley and tune and made 667rwhp on a DJ.
Ford is brining out some decent meat in the 2011 Mustang GT. 400hp/360 tq from a revised 5.0L 4v Modular (3.6X bore x 3.6X stroke) on 87 octane. The 2011 GT500 gets an Aluminum block and 40 extra HP (540hp total) to go along with the '10's revised exterior/interior.
In 2013 the TT DI 5.0L 4v Bobcat will be released in various makes--likely the Shelby. So far with ethanol injection it's making 500hp/700tq, pretty sporty.

Almo

580RWHP? Not without a cam and some aggressive tuning. Unless you are thinking bolt on FI. LOL..

Edited... see MHP already replied and filled you in.

For the record and regarding the dyno numbers... something isn't right even though SAE are listed. Least in my opinion... the car should be making 580 at the wheels before tuning. Drivetrain loss especially on a Dynojet for the ZR should be about 12%. I am thinking it isn't broken in yet and might shine one some miles are put on it. *Confused look at the dyno above*

Also, I too agree this car with a pulley/tune (up the boost to about 16 pounds) will see 700 to the wheels and I bet trap speeds hit 140+ with a DR and a decent driver.

Cheers,
Allen

MarkoCL65

There was a reference to the power output of the ZR-1 being "pathetic". I'm glad the Lotus is great at the track. It still makes nowhere near the "pathetic" 500+ RWHP of the ZR-1.

BlownV8

From what I've read about the ZR1 and according to GM, it will not take anymore boost dependably since the intercooler is too small and any larger it would not fit under the hood. Dependable gains on this motor will come from heads, exhaust, and cams.