T faster than sedan?
#1
T faster than sedan?
A few years ago C/D got better results for the E55 T than the sedan:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test
E55 T:
0 to 60 in 4.1 seconds; the quarter-mile in 12.5 at 114 mph; and 0 to 150 in 24 flat.
E55:
0 to 60 in 4.3 seconds, 0 to 100 in 9.9, 0 to 150 in 24.5, and the quarter in 12.5 seconds at 116 mph
They said:
"The explanation lies within better weight distribution, which in turn results in a more efficient launch. The wagon carries 51 percent of its curb weight over the rear wheels, whereas the sedan burdens its hind legs with just 47 percent. Simply put, the wagon's rear-driven 265/35R-18 Continentals are able to hook up like two college freshmen, thrusting the "estate" off into the sunset with ungodly authority. The wagon bettered the sedan's 70-to-0 braking—from 173 feet to 171—as well as its skidpad performance, which jumped from 0.83 g to 0.85."
Finally now I found info on the C63 wagon from Auto Motor und Sport, below are results for the sedan and other competition from the same mag. Impressive in my opinnion and similar than was seen in this DR video:
http://www.drivers-republic.com/dr_t...&area=features
It seems that the wagons are beating the sedans on paper! What is the situation in the real world, any idea? They say the
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/t...,fahrwerte.hbs
Mercedes C 63 AMG T
Beschleuningung (s)
0-80 km/h Automatik 3.3
0-100 km/h Automatik 4.4
0-120 km/h Automatik 5.9
0-130 km/h Automatik 6.6
0-160 km/h Automatik 9.5
0-180 km/h Automatik 11.8
0-200 km/h Automatik 14.5
Herstellerangabe 0-100 km/h 4.6
Höchstgeschwindigkeit (km/h) 250
Bremsweg
100-0 km/h kalt leer 35.7
100-0 km/h kalt beladen 35.4
100-0 km/h warm beladen 35.7
Tempo 80%Vmax 190
Verbrauch (L/100km)
Benzinart Super Plus
Testverbrauch 15.8
ECE-Verbrauch(gesamt) 14.1584
Mercedes C 63 AMG
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/t...bs?a=2&b=1#ank
Beschleuningung (s)
0-80 km/h Automatik 3.6
0-100 km/h Automatik 4.7
0-120 km/h Automatik 6.5
0-130 km/h Automatik 7.3
0-160 km/h Automatik 10.3
0-180 km/h Automatik 12.8
0-200 km/h Automatik 15.6
Herstellerangabe 0-100 km/h 4.5
Höchstgeschwindigkeit (km/h) 250
Bremsweg
100-0 km/h kalt leer 36.4
100-0 km/h kalt beladen 36.7
100-0 km/h warm beladen 36.4
Tempo 80%Vmax 190
Verbrauch (L/100km)
Benzinart Super Plus Super Plus
Minimal(Normrunde) 11
Maximal 21.5
Testverbrauch 15.7
ECE-Verbrauch(gesamt) 14.1584
E63 T vs M5 touring
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/t...rwerte.hbs#ank
Beschleuningung (s)
0-80 km/h Automatik 3.4 3.7
0-100 km/h Automatik 4.6 4.7
0-120 km/h Automatik 6.1 6.2
0-130 km/h Automatik 6.9 7
0-160 km/h Automatik 9.9 10.1
0-180 km/h Automatik 12.4 12.2
0-200 km/h Automatik 15.3 14.8
Herstellerangabe 0-100 km/h 4.6 4.8
Höchstgeschwindigkeit (km/h) 250 250
Bremsweg
100-0 km/h kalt leer 37.5 37.8
100-0 km/h kalt beladen 37.8 38.2
100-0 km/h warm beladen 37.8 37.8
Tempo 80%Vmax 190 190
Verbrauch (L/100km)
Benzinart Super Plus Super Plus
Minimal(Normrunde) 11 11.2
Maximal 22.3 22.5
Testverbrauch 16.6 16.8
ECE-Verbrauch(gesamt) 14.5736 14.9424
Audi RS 6 Avant
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/t...rwerte.hbs#ank
Beschleuningung (s)
0-80 km/h Automatik 3.3
0-100 km/h Automatik 4.4
0-120 km/h Automatik 6
0-130 km/h Automatik 6.9
0-160 km/h Automatik 9.6
0-180 km/h Automatik 12.2
0-200 km/h Automatik 15.2
Herstellerangabe 0-100 km/h 4.6
Höchstgeschwindigkeit (km/h) 250
Bremsweg
100-0 km/h kalt leer 36.1
100-0 km/h kalt beladen 36.1
100-0 km/h warm beladen 34.8
Tempo 80%Vmax 190
Verbrauch (L/100km)
Benzinart Super
Minimal(Normrunde) 11.8
Maximal 24.3
Testverbrauch 17.2
ECE-Verbrauch(gesamt) 14.0168
Sorry for the long post, but I should still think weight would make the sedan faster?
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test
E55 T:
0 to 60 in 4.1 seconds; the quarter-mile in 12.5 at 114 mph; and 0 to 150 in 24 flat.
E55:
0 to 60 in 4.3 seconds, 0 to 100 in 9.9, 0 to 150 in 24.5, and the quarter in 12.5 seconds at 116 mph
They said:
"The explanation lies within better weight distribution, which in turn results in a more efficient launch. The wagon carries 51 percent of its curb weight over the rear wheels, whereas the sedan burdens its hind legs with just 47 percent. Simply put, the wagon's rear-driven 265/35R-18 Continentals are able to hook up like two college freshmen, thrusting the "estate" off into the sunset with ungodly authority. The wagon bettered the sedan's 70-to-0 braking—from 173 feet to 171—as well as its skidpad performance, which jumped from 0.83 g to 0.85."
Finally now I found info on the C63 wagon from Auto Motor und Sport, below are results for the sedan and other competition from the same mag. Impressive in my opinnion and similar than was seen in this DR video:
http://www.drivers-republic.com/dr_t...&area=features
It seems that the wagons are beating the sedans on paper! What is the situation in the real world, any idea? They say the
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/t...,fahrwerte.hbs
Mercedes C 63 AMG T
Beschleuningung (s)
0-80 km/h Automatik 3.3
0-100 km/h Automatik 4.4
0-120 km/h Automatik 5.9
0-130 km/h Automatik 6.6
0-160 km/h Automatik 9.5
0-180 km/h Automatik 11.8
0-200 km/h Automatik 14.5
Herstellerangabe 0-100 km/h 4.6
Höchstgeschwindigkeit (km/h) 250
Bremsweg
100-0 km/h kalt leer 35.7
100-0 km/h kalt beladen 35.4
100-0 km/h warm beladen 35.7
Tempo 80%Vmax 190
Verbrauch (L/100km)
Benzinart Super Plus
Testverbrauch 15.8
ECE-Verbrauch(gesamt) 14.1584
Mercedes C 63 AMG
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/t...bs?a=2&b=1#ank
Beschleuningung (s)
0-80 km/h Automatik 3.6
0-100 km/h Automatik 4.7
0-120 km/h Automatik 6.5
0-130 km/h Automatik 7.3
0-160 km/h Automatik 10.3
0-180 km/h Automatik 12.8
0-200 km/h Automatik 15.6
Herstellerangabe 0-100 km/h 4.5
Höchstgeschwindigkeit (km/h) 250
Bremsweg
100-0 km/h kalt leer 36.4
100-0 km/h kalt beladen 36.7
100-0 km/h warm beladen 36.4
Tempo 80%Vmax 190
Verbrauch (L/100km)
Benzinart Super Plus Super Plus
Minimal(Normrunde) 11
Maximal 21.5
Testverbrauch 15.7
ECE-Verbrauch(gesamt) 14.1584
E63 T vs M5 touring
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/t...rwerte.hbs#ank
Beschleuningung (s)
0-80 km/h Automatik 3.4 3.7
0-100 km/h Automatik 4.6 4.7
0-120 km/h Automatik 6.1 6.2
0-130 km/h Automatik 6.9 7
0-160 km/h Automatik 9.9 10.1
0-180 km/h Automatik 12.4 12.2
0-200 km/h Automatik 15.3 14.8
Herstellerangabe 0-100 km/h 4.6 4.8
Höchstgeschwindigkeit (km/h) 250 250
Bremsweg
100-0 km/h kalt leer 37.5 37.8
100-0 km/h kalt beladen 37.8 38.2
100-0 km/h warm beladen 37.8 37.8
Tempo 80%Vmax 190 190
Verbrauch (L/100km)
Benzinart Super Plus Super Plus
Minimal(Normrunde) 11 11.2
Maximal 22.3 22.5
Testverbrauch 16.6 16.8
ECE-Verbrauch(gesamt) 14.5736 14.9424
Audi RS 6 Avant
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/t...rwerte.hbs#ank
Beschleuningung (s)
0-80 km/h Automatik 3.3
0-100 km/h Automatik 4.4
0-120 km/h Automatik 6
0-130 km/h Automatik 6.9
0-160 km/h Automatik 9.6
0-180 km/h Automatik 12.2
0-200 km/h Automatik 15.2
Herstellerangabe 0-100 km/h 4.6
Höchstgeschwindigkeit (km/h) 250
Bremsweg
100-0 km/h kalt leer 36.1
100-0 km/h kalt beladen 36.1
100-0 km/h warm beladen 34.8
Tempo 80%Vmax 190
Verbrauch (L/100km)
Benzinart Super
Minimal(Normrunde) 11.8
Maximal 24.3
Testverbrauch 17.2
ECE-Verbrauch(gesamt) 14.0168
Sorry for the long post, but I should still think weight would make the sedan faster?
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I think at those power levels 300whp+ that traction & launch plays more an important role than anything. Its like that all supra mkiv joke: What does a 400hp 500hp and 600hp supra have in common? they all run 12s. or 11s.. i dont remember lol
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'12 E350 Coupe (3rd Benz)
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I love the wagons and avants, I would have gone E63 Wagon if it came P30,
I would have done RS6plus if it (or reg RS6) was in the US, Audi Avants are the ultimate...
oh sexy RS6 avant. RS4 avant also supper sexy <3
I would have done RS6plus if it (or reg RS6) was in the US, Audi Avants are the ultimate...
oh sexy RS6 avant. RS4 avant also supper sexy <3
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If I get this job in germany, its government cleared, lots of $ to go abroad,
I will ship the benz and pick up an RS4 Avant, put snow tires for winter =]
I am sure everyone as seen this vid, if not, you MUST see it, I drive like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-kDITgEE1Y <<< My fav vid
I will ship the benz and pick up an RS4 Avant, put snow tires for winter =]
I am sure everyone as seen this vid, if not, you MUST see it, I drive like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-kDITgEE1Y <<< My fav vid
Last edited by intellilogic; 09-29-2008 at 11:12 AM.
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+1...If you want even more rear wheel bias (i.e. more rear weight distribution) I hear that CCW makes "skinnies" for the drag...front wheels that are lighter and skinnier than stock to save weight up front...supposedly about 35-40lbs each front rim...