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Old 10-25-2008, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by The Godfather
You still think the dyno you originally had was accurate? Come on man, from the first post everyone knew the numbers were WAAYYY wrong. Just come to grips with it and enjoy your car
EXACTLY..... also if your IC pump started to fail your TRAP speed would be way lower than 113mph.....Your trap is on the low to average side for BONE stock 55k

Next time listen to us old dogs, we've seen a lot in our days (modding, & on this forum) You'd be trapping 120+mph if that Fubar dyno was correct lol..

Gotta quote you on this post, it's really funny & expains how a lot of KILLL STORIES are plain or & MISTAKEN other drivers actually going all out & racing you esp the BIKES lol....

Originally Posted by str8ridin
So, I've been smokin' people left and right with my car. Bikes, cars whatever...I'm lovin' this car!
Please don't take this wrong, not trying to put you down just speaking the truth

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EXACTLY..... also if your IC pump started to fail your TRAP speed would be way lower than 112mph.....Your trap is on the low to average side for BONE stock 55k

Next time listen to us old dogs, we've seen a lot in our days (modding, & on this forum) You'd be trapping 120+mph if that Fubar dyno was correct lol..

Gotta quote you on this post, it's really funny & expains how a lot of KILLL STORIES are plain or & MISTAKEN other drivers actually going all out & racing you esp the BIKES lol....



Please don't take this wrong, not trying to put you down just speaking the truth
Ouch. I have no reason to BS anyone one here. Never have and never will in my 1000+ posts. If I did, then I would have posted BS 1/4 numbers.

Just posting the facts, brother. If you look at my 0-140mph video and do the math, 12 seconds to 120mph doesn't even cover 1/4 mile, unless my math is wrong. And I can do that again if you'd like.

Anyway, I'll practice my launching, head back the track and dyno and update ya'll with some new info in the next few weeks. Man, this is bugging the hell out of me! I wish I dynoed normal numbers! lol

In the meantime, I'll just enjoy my car and order that Johnson pump from LET.
Old 10-25-2008, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Eurosport
don't go back to dyno's go back to Pacific Raceways and do more testing, more accurate than dyno's
Do you know if they are open to the public anymore? And I think you are from Seattle, so if they are, wanna go with me? You could probably launch my car better than I can!
Old 10-25-2008, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by The Godfather
You still think the dyno you originally had was accurate? Come on man, from the first post everyone knew the numbers were WAAYYY wrong. Just come to grips with it and enjoy your car
And exactly why I never put those numbers in my sig.
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Originally Posted by str8ridin
And exactly why I never put those numbers in my sig.
It's all good in the hood. Get a proper dyno done so you can be happy with your numbers. And the reason why you're smoking people left and right: You have an E55 AMG. lol
Old 10-25-2008, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by str8ridin
Do you know if they are open to the public anymore? And I think you are from Seattle, so if they are, wanna go with me? You could probably launch my car better than I can!
You're welcome down here at PIR anytime you would like. A couple hours south, but the occasional AMG will make it out, usually in pairs.
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Originally Posted by str8ridin
Ouch. I have no reason to BS anyone one here. Never have and never will in my 1000+ posts. If I did, then I would have posted BS 1/4 numbers.

Just posting the facts, brother. If you look at my 0-140mph video and do the math, 12 seconds to 120mph doesn't even cover 1/4 mile, unless my math is wrong. And I can do that again if you'd like.

Anyway, I'll practice my launching, head back the track and dyno and update ya'll with some new info in the next few weeks. Man, this is bugging the hell out of me! I wish I dynoed normal numbers! lol

In the meantime, I'll just enjoy my car and order that Johnson pump from LET.
I DIDN'T SAY YOU WERE NECESSARILY BS'ing, RE-READ what I said...... "it's really funny & expains how a lot of KILL STORIES are plain or & MISTAKEN other drivers actually going all out & racing you esp the BIKES lol....

Your TRAP speed says it all, NOT your launching ability infact w/better 60 foot time ie less than 2.00, will drop your TRAP SPEED even more but your ET will improve dramatically.

Your video timed run isn't solid proof of your TRAP speed, your Track data says it all, the car isn't making the numbers you originally posted.
R/T: 1.241
60': 2.549
330: 6.058
1/8: 8.850 @ 88.22
1000: 11.24
1/4: 13.231 @ 112.98
If you look at my 0-140mph video and do the math, 12 seconds to 120mph doesn't even cover 1/4 mile, unless my math is wrong.

Anyway, I'll practice my launching,
Nearly 113 mph trap is quite normal for a stock 55k

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Off topic, I heard the ricker is buff as hell. Maybe we should put him on the dyno. Probably gonna tell us how he killed some fool in the street for looking at him funny and ****...
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Off topic, I heard the ricker is buff as hell. Maybe we should put him on the dyno. Probably gonna tell us how he killed some fool in the street for looking at him funny and ****...
Old 10-27-2008, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by str8ridin
Do you know if they are open to the public anymore? And I think you are from Seattle, so if they are, wanna go with me? You could probably launch my car better than I can!
crap i think yesterday was last day of drag this year at PacificRaceways
Evergreen speedway is another option but if they are done for the year too
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hey str8, I was at Pacific Raceways yesterday and yes that was the last day. But it was very busy and only got 1 run in so you didn't miss out on much. I'm preparing for spring and tuning over the winter... Praying for 120+ trap in my C63. I'll let you know next time I head out. It's a different crowd there and had a bad experience yesterday so it would be nice to hang out with another AMG
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hey str8, I was at Pacific Raceways yesterday and yes that was the last day. But it was very busy and only got 1 run in so you didn't miss out on much. I'm preparing for spring and tuning over the winter... Praying for 120+ trap in my C63. I'll let you know next time I head out. It's a different crowd there and had a bad experience yesterday so it would be nice to hang out with another AMG
I hear ya. I actually started a thread on 6speed...I have a different screen name on there and rounded a few of them up. A couple 911's, an F430 vert, Viper and an M5 came out. But I'll represent the 55's a little better next time.

Good luck this winter....
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New Dyno Numbers are here!!

and....something is wrong...any ideas??

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Originally Posted by str8ridin
and....something is wrong...any ideas??

The torque ***** curve is spiking
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Originally Posted by Thericker
The torque ***** curve is spiking


That dyno looks like one that was done with ESP on or something weird. You did it in dyno mode in manual in 4th or 5th geat right?
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Originally Posted by str8ridin
and....something is wrong...any ideas??



I think your car needs a few of these in the gas tank...

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I think your car needs a few of these in the gas tank...

LOL!!!

Or it could be premature ignition!
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LOL!!!

Or it could be premature ignition!


Honestly, come on dude, how did you get the ***** dyno chart? That can't be real! It is the funniest thing I've seen on here in awhile...
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Honestly, come on dude, how did you get the ***** dyno chart? That can't be real! It is the funniest thing I've seen on here in awhile...
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that dyno is hilarious
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mine dynoed 532/472 on a dyno dynamics dyno...and its n/a.

Originally Posted by Marcus Frost
I hate to be the bearer of bad news - but that # is simply not possible on a stock car. I use Dyno Dynamics and my apologies to Andy but his comments about Dyno Dynamics are simply not correct. Dyno Dynamics makes the heart breaker dyno and while you can config ANY dyno to give you inflated #s, Dyno Dynamics is by far the most conservative that I have seen. This has been discussed a lot, and I won't go into it further.

A normal 55k car makes 380-390rwhp on a Dyno Dynamics. 370 on the low end, 400 on the high end. I'm not sure what's going on there, but I can assure you, you aren't making 486rwhp. That would equate to ~623bhp

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Since this thread was kicked to the top, I had an opportunity to re-dyno the car on a different dyno at a different place. I had to get in 6 pulls until I got consistent numbers. The last three being within 5HP/TQ of each other.

The best and last pull was 482RWHP/506RWTQ.



Anyway, I'm waiting for the track to open over here. Until then.....
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And your car is stock??? I dunno man...still hard to swallow...
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Originally Posted by str8ridin
Since this thread was kicked to the top, I had an opportunity to re-dyno the car on a different dyno at a different place. I had to get in 6 pulls until I got consistent numbers. The last three being within 5HP/TQ of each other.

The best and last pull was 482RWHP/506RWTQ.



Anyway, I'm waiting for the track to open over here. Until then.....
str8,

Since you posted uncorrected #s, I went ahead and did some calculations to get the real corrected #s. Using a few assumptions, (average temp, humidity, barometric pressure that is typical for Seattle over the past few months) - my correction factor (about .96) puts you at ~460rwhp on the Dyno Jet for the graph you posted - on the upper end for a stage 1 car. (It should also be noted that I used 40F, if it was 30F, he would lose another ~6rwhp) Have you measured your pulley? Have you taken a boost reading while on the dyno? You haven't owned the car since new, so what have you done to assure yourself it's stock?

I'm not ready to believe a stock car is making ~460rwhp on a Dynojet (and about 420rwhp on a Dyno Dynamics), but it's a hell of lot easier to swallow than 487rwhp, stock 55, on a Dyno Dynamics. That is stock 65 V12 territory. I am real curious to see what your car will trap, and even more curious as to what you've done to assure yourself the car is stock.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Frost
str8,

Since you posted uncorrected #s, I went ahead and did some calculations to get the real corrected #s. Using a few assumptions, (average temp, humidity, barometric pressure that is typical for Seattle over the past few months) - my correction factor (about .96) puts you at ~460rwhp on the Dyno Jet for the graph you posted - on the upper end for a stage 1 car. (It should also be noted that I used 40F, if it was 30F, he would lose another ~6rwhp) Have you measured your pulley? Have you taken a boost reading while on the dyno? You haven't owned the car since new, so what have you done to assure yourself it's stock?

I'm not ready to believe a stock car is making ~460rwhp on a Dynojet (and about 420rwhp on a Dyno Dynamics), but it's a hell of lot easier to swallow than 487rwhp, stock 55, on a Dyno Dynamics. That is stock 65 V12 territory. I am real curious to see what your car will trap, and even more curious as to what you've done to assure yourself the car is stock.

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No way No how your car is stock....

Marcus I'm not as well versed on the E55 platform as you are but isn't his A/F ratio looking tuned? @ 12.5-12.0

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A few comments about the dyno.

First, why is there no data showing the TQ going up? What RPMs was the pull done at? You'll notice that when we pull, etc. affects the TQ curve and that is where we get the HP, so I'm just curious.

The step-like changes in A/F look like an older tune, and the car is MUCH leaner than a typical E55k would be. That has lots to do with the pulley, too but my baselines were more like 12:1 down to 10:1 at the higher revs. With the pulley, it was even worse, since the car compensates but dumping fuel.

Last thing, why not pull to redline? I always like to see the rev or speed limitter. It shows if you have a tune or not, too.



Last thing, grab a quick datalogger and look at a few parameters to see if it is tuned. A good one is usually the O2 sensor. If it is off, it is tuned...


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