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Old 11-02-2008, 11:25 PM
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'04 e55 sedans with 30K - 48K mileage could be had for around 29K - 32K. Find a broker you trust and let him do his work or find a seller who needs to off theirs quick. Someone here can paste the latest MA prices for verification, but please note that one can never tell the condition of the cars sold at auction just by looking at the prices. Also, prices very per region. Essentially, we have a perfect storm: Credit market, Real Estate, Recession/Deflation, Job Security, Gas (not so much now), and Green movement are killing the resale market for high end gas guzzling luxury cars.

06 e55 Wagons used to sell at low 60's 7 mos ago. Now, they are selling at mid to high 40's. That is a $10k/$15K hit. The depreciation rate has never been so steep. That is what's happening folks. Most of the sellers are chasing the market down.
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Here are the current #'s from Manheim. This is for an 04' and 05' E55. Pretty great time for anyone that wants in.


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Originally Posted by ENTIZY1
Thanks for the input guys I appreciate it. You do have a point that some similars are going for mid 30s, however the blue book on the car is 45k, the problem is the economy, and the people trying to get a quick buck on a car they were leasing or financing. They are killing the market for people trying to get a disappointing but fair return on investment, considering the blue book which has always been the standard on used cars. But again I appreciate all the input. Anyone reading this, I am not stuck on that price, if u feel u are interested in the car, but dont like the price, make me an offer.

Thanks everyone, and keep the comments coming
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Bluebook is worthless in this market. They only publish revised figures like every 6 months, so almost immediately after they update their numbers they're already behind.

High-end cars are depreciating 3%-5%+ a month in this market, and KBB just can't keep up. The real value is mid $30k's, assuming the car is still under warranty, and even less if the warranty is expired.

I wouldn't use bluebook to value anything right now, or you're guna be sitting on that sucker for awhile.
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Originally Posted by Wish4_e55Wagon
I've been watching the e55 market for over a year. I use multiple source listings and monitor a number of forums. If you truly want to off this car, you will need to fall out of love with it and re adjust your price because just like the Real Estate market, you will be forever chasing the market down. Also, accessories don't add much to the resale in this market.

I will repeat:

For those who need to sell, sometimes it is better to sell at a loss initially, because you can get stuck chasing the market down eventually selling it for a big time firesale price when you could have sold earlier.

Of course if you can carry the car month to month and are not hurting, then sure. Keep it until you find the right buyer. But you know, listings get stale like houses. So you constantly have to attract buyers one way or the other. Good luck.

Out of Touch Seller #1 - 2004 e55 in Irvine.

This car has been on an off Craigslist for more than 7 mos +/-. The seller originally tried to sell in the mid forty's. Way overpriced at the time. He has dropped his price slowly and is now asking $33K. If he had priced the car around $35K 6 mos ago he might have been able to sell it because that was the start of the downslide in price. He is still making payments - who knows. Car has 19" wheels and seems like it was well cared for and has extended warranty to 100K miles and all service records at Fletcher Jones. Unfortunately, the car has 80,500 miles - last I remembered the mileage was in the 70s when it was first listed. The market is so bad so be realistic about the price - period. This car will not sell until the price is in mid 20s. That blows as he could have sold it earlier if he wasn't so out of touch with the market.

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ctd/900275477.html


Out of Touch Seller #2 - 2005 e55, blk 48K miles
This car has been for sale in Carlsbad, CA for about one and a half mos. Seems like a great car and single owner with pink slip in hand. The original price was $39K and he just dropped the price to $37,950 and listing goes Mercedes e55 AMG Well below Kelly BB. If the price was well BELOW KBB, don't ya think it would have been sold by now? The owner sent me (an all others than inquired about the car) an email early October saying he would take $37K for a great deal if closed by the end of the week. Well, it looks like there were no takers as the car is still on Craigslist with the new reduced price. Apparently the seller wanted to buy another car and sell this car, but went ahead with the new car purchase. If he was willing to take $37K one month ago, maybe he will take $36K or less now?

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/901391814.html
nail on the head, you are right.

however, possibly, the storm could be clearing soon...
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the worse is yest to come. more people will default on their homes and many will be looking to get rid of there toys. throw in the economy and it is a perfect storm. yes the depreciation rate will slow, but the majority of damage will be done.
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the worse is yest to come. more people will default on their homes and many will be looking to get rid of there toys. throw in the economy and it is a perfect storm. yes the depreciation rate will slow, but the majority of damage will be done.
About time for me to step up from the W210 to the W211. I don't buy cars for their value a year or two from now. I buy them to enjoy them, do what I want to them, and especially drive them the way I want to.

I think we may be seeing prices level off a little bit, but the majority of the damage is done.
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So, all that being said, since the prices are unusually low, will they ever go back up?
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With w212 style coming up soon.. I really doubt that they will go up.
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speaking of which....has anybody seen the new w212?
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Originally Posted by dwalker011
Here are the current #'s from Manheim. This is for an 04' and 05' E55. Pretty great time for anyone that wants in.


Isn't Manheim, dealer auction only? How would a non-dealer like myself get in on that action?

edit: Sorry, just realized I've taken this way off-topic....if anyone can help, PM me, I'm ready to buy!

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Originally Posted by r00kie
Isn't Manheim, dealer auction only? How would a non-dealer like myself get in on that action?

edit: Sorry, just realized I've taken this way off-topic....if anyone can help, PM me, I'm ready to buy!
The auction prices are more of a guide for figuring out what your dealer paid. The dealer normally wants to make as much as possible, but it's pretty safe assuming that they will be happy with a $2k or $3k per unit profit. So the auctions are helpful to help you figure out what to offer them.
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Originally Posted by str8ridin
So, all that being said, since the prices are unusually low, will they ever go back up?
NO. This is how bad it is and I'm not even listing half of the stuff that is coming to mind:

Dealerships have excess inventory - both new and used

Money supply is tight even though the Feds have 'injected' over 1 Trillion dollars into the financial industry recently as a result of the 'Sub Prime' crisis but in reality 'Sub Prime' is being used as the scapegoat.

Chrysler is in dire financial trouble and the majority of their dealers (which includes Mercedes) are being asked to pay early on their flooring plan, but the dealers can't sell cars because the funding is simply not there. If so, then you better have a FICO >700.

Approx 40% of the population have a FICO < 700 so the number of cars being sold has been cut in half if not more - especially big ticket, luxury gas guzzlers

Even Toyota's profits declined 3rd quarter - first decline in profits the last 7 years - so the market is crashing BIG TIME

GM has 20B in cash and burning through this at 1B a month - Chrysler is worse and there is talk of a Gov't bailout or face Bankruptcy

Even if there is a bail out, many jobs will be lost do to restructuring

If Chrysler declares bankruptcy, then so will GM and Ford

More people are getting laid off as the days go by and people lose confidence so they don't spend. Instead, they hoard cash

Increase in supply of new and used cars puts downward pressure on price to move them, but there is less demand so we go into death spiral. At this point we've moved past inflation into DEFLATION

In October, no (ZERO) credit card backed securities (Bonds) were purchased which forced companies like American Express to go to the FED - the FED is buying up commercial paper so these companies can stay in business

Just look at the classified section and count how many cars have been posted for sale compared to the same time last year
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Thanks again everyone for commenting. The dealership offered me $39000 for my car. I didnt want it at first but im gonna take it. The only problem is I personally dont think the 63 compares to the 55. But at least it will be a brand new car.
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Originally Posted by ENTIZY1
Thanks again everyone for commenting. The dealership offered me $39000 for my car. I didnt want it at first but im gonna take it. The only problem is I personally dont think the 63 compares to the 55. But at least it will be a brand new car.




Reality bites huh?? Sorry you had to take a $10 K hit. Why not just keep her, modify her a bit more and enjoy her.
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Thanks again everyone for commenting. The dealership offered me $39000 for my car. I didnt want it at first but im gonna take it. The only problem is I personally dont think the 63 compares to the 55. But at least it will be a brand new car.
Was the $39 trade-in value towards another car? They did not just cut you a check for $39k did they?
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i will not pile on..

but goes to show how its a bad time to sell anything.. house, cars, boats, bikes.. ects.

its better to let the bank take it..
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Originally Posted by ENTIZY1
Thanks again everyone for commenting. The dealership offered me $39000 for my car. I didnt want it at first but im gonna take it. The only problem is I personally dont think the 63 compares to the 55. But at least it will be a brand new car.
If you need to off it, take the deal. That price works in your favor but was $39K cash? Or as another member asked was the $39K put towards another car? It seems pretty high, but take it if they are serious for sure.
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damn a couple grand more and you can have my car....

very exotic setup.... this car gets more looks then my Lambo Murc!!!

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very exotic setup.... this car gets more looks then my Lambo Murc!!!

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Very nice looking CLS. So you will take $41K then?
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Very nice looking CLS. So you will take $41K then?

Please - These cars just are not moving at prices worth selling for. To think I kept my baby in the garage, treated it to 6 very expensive oil changes in 16,500 miles, drove it only when the sun was shining, kept it shiny and clean. For what? Well, I have an extended factory warranty that will keep it covered for another 3 years and another 60k miles. Either someone is paying me $42k for it or I am just keeping it. It isn't as though I can find anything remotely as fun (or as fast) and well-maintained for that price to replace it. And with all the money I am spending on my house, $30k (net of balance of car loan) really is not going to make that big of a difference.

I will put it on Autotrader next week and see where it goes.
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I was referring to retardedmonks post - just to clear anything up if needed
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I was referring to retardedmonks post - just to clear anything up if needed
Clear to me. Sorry the quote did not capture everything.
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Was the $39 trade-in value towards another car? They did not just cut you a check for $39k did they?
Dealers will often give you a high-trade in value, but will sell you the other car at a premium to make up for it.

I doubt the dealer took out the checkbook and wrote him $39k for the car alone.
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These crazy pricings are simple economics. There is a huge supply on the market right now and low demand, thus the prices. When the supply and demand change, so will the prices. But in this market, it may take a while.


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