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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 03:56 PM
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Which porsche 911 to replace my E55

My lease for the 2006 E55 will be up next year. I am always facinated with Porsche 911, it being the ultimate sport car, I am serious considering buying one. I have never driven a porsche before but I am planning to visit the local dealer for a test drive. The 911 I am considering is 911 4S with PDK, and I don't mind preowned 911 include the 911 turbo. For daily driving, including 2 young children(3 and 5), which 911 is more practical? I will also be doing some winter driving to-and-from work. And which options are essential for a 911? The list of options is dizzling to look at and pricy too. Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated.

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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnAMG
My lease for the 2006 E55 will be up next year. I am always facinated with Porsche 911, it being the ultimate sport car, I am serious considering buying one. I have never driven a porsche before but I am planning to visit the local dealer for a test drive. The 911 I am considering is 911 4S with PDK, and I don't mind preowned 911 include the 911 turbo. For daily driving, including 2 young children(3 and 5), which 911 is more practical? I will also be doing some winter driving to-and-from work. And which options are essential for a 911? The list of options is dizzling to look at and pricy too. Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated.

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the only Pcar that can match or exceed the ***** of an E55 is the turbo. You will be dissapointed with any other one
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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the only Pcar that can match or exceed the ***** of an E55 is the turbo. You will be dissapointed with any other one
yep. I test drove a 997 C4S and 996 turbo last weekend. The Turbo is a million time more fun!!
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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As it looks like you'll be driving the car in the winter then yes, you'll need either a C4S or turbo with snows on it.

I replaced my '04 E55 with an '06 C2S. Neither was my daily driver and it did take me a couple of weeks to "get" the whole porsche thing. A few times I wondered If i had made a mistake. Fast forward and i'm thrilled I made the decision I did. I kept the S for a year and have had my TT for about 15 months (still not my DD but 16K miles on it).

If it were my DD I'm not sure I'd go this way though. The rear seats are just about useless.

The porsche options list can be dizzying - if you need any help or have any questions feel free to ask.

The C4S is tricky as it will get into TT category (price wise) very quickly with a few options. You may want to search for a used 997TT as the market continues to sink - a lot of guys are having to get rid of their cars.

Good luck and let us know what you decide.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cte430
The porsche options list can be dizzying - if you need any help or have any questions feel free to ask.
Same goes here. I've had two 911s in the past 3 years, and my '07 was a custom order - feel free to ask any questions. You can pay more in options on a 911 than it costs for an E55 new.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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I say whichever year you go with, definitely stick with a Turbo. Just so much fun! Also, lots of room to grow if you decide to modify it.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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While I think all 911s are awesome, coming from an E55 you will be disappointed with the power in anything less than a Turbo.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mricorp
coming from an E55 you will be disappointed with the power in anything less than a Turbo.
agree 100%..anything other than a turbo and you will be in for a major disappointment. And as far as being the ultimate sports car......test drive one first.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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My lease for the 2006 E55 will be up next year. I am always facinated with Porsche 911, it being the ultimate sport car, I am serious considering buying one. I have never driven a porsche before but I am planning to visit the local dealer for a test drive. The 911 I am considering is 911 4S with PDK, and I don't mind preowned 911 include the 911 turbo. For daily driving, including 2 young children(3 and 5), which 911 is more practical? I will also be doing some winter driving to-and-from work. And which options are essential for a 911? The list of options is dizzling to look at and pricy too. Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated.

John

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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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While I think all 911s are awesome, coming from an E55 you will be disappointed with the power in anything less than a Turbo.
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I just sold my 996 (non turbo) to buy my E55. I have a 4 year old and she was getting way too big for the backseat of the Porsche. Gas mileage was better in the Porsche and handling was great, but other than that I'm happy to stick with the E55 over the Porsche. A TT is definitely a fun car though and is much faster than even the S's. PDK is a nice option. The market for 996/997 right now is near rock bottom, plenty of good deals to be found. Post up some pics if you buy or feel free to ask any questions. I know Porsches and Corvettes much better than Mercedes actually....
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 11:21 PM
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Thank you all for the response. It seems like the general consensus is 911 TT is the best way to go coming from the E55. I guess once you are spoil by the E55 torque monster not much out there can top it. I have been browsing ebay for 911 TT and it seems you can get a decent 2007 911 TT for a decent price. And next year the 2007 price should plunge further. I have a few questions for you guys,

1) For those with young children, can you put a booster seat adequately in the rear?

2) What are the differences between the seats(sports and adaptive)?

3) Beside the sport chrono option, are there other must have options?

4) How comfortable is the TT for long distance drive? I go to Toronto every 3 weeks with the family.

5) I heard Porsche dealer don't like to negotiate the price. Is this true?

The only problem is getting a test drive for a 911 TT. Local dealer have 911s but haven't seen the TT yet. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

John

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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 01:02 AM
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You can pay more in options on a 911 than it costs for an E55 new.


My GT3 had $35K+ in options and it was all basic stuff.

As to what Porsche, I would skip the C4S and go right to a TT. The C4S is a very well balanced car but the power of the TT is fantastic and the AWD platform make it very easy to drive. Especially when the weather gets nasty.

With a nice C4S trading hands within $15K or less of a TT, it is very difficult to justify the C4S as a real option.
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 02:09 AM
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Lots of good advie here. I have had/driven/raced just about every version of the 911 from the 993 on. IMO the 993, for the enthusiast, is the best platform. Sure, the latter cars have many more comfort features etc....Porsches are expensive to work on, so if you want a good warranty, the 993 is out. But, if you want the best, the 993 is the way to go. Rennlist is a great place for help. www.truspeedmotorcars is a great place to buy. And, http://carnewal.com is the best place for mods. If you can find the right optioned 993 Turbo, and throw $20k in mods to it, you will have a bad azz ride.
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnAMG
Thank you all for the response. It seems like the general consensus is 911 TT is the best way to go coming from the E55. I guess once you are spoil by the E55 torque monster not much out there can top it. I have been browsing ebay for 911 TT and it seems you can get a decent 2007 911 TT for a decent price. And next year the 2007 price should plunge further. I have a few questions for you guys,

1) For those with young children, can you put a booster seat adequately in the rear?

2) What are the differences between the seats(sports and adaptive)?

3) Beside the sport chrono option, are there other must have options?

4) How comfortable is the TT for long distance drive? I go to Toronto every 3 weeks with the family.

5) I heard Porsche dealer don't like to negotiate the price. Is this true?

The only problem is getting a test drive for a 911 TT. Local dealer have 911s but haven't seen the TT yet. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

John
John, being a 2+2, the rear seats are snug. Taking a family trip to Canada, I hope everyone in your family is under 5 feet tall. The booster seat is also a tight fit. You have to put it behind the passenger seat but then no passenger can sit up front. The angle of the back seat requires the booster to extend a bit forward then you need some leg room for the child. Safety is definetly an issue.
Now if a child will be in the back for a very short trip, like picking up from school etc, then it is possible, but any more than that you should look for another ride. Sorry.
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by mricorp
While I think all 911s are awesome, coming from an E55 you will be disappointed with the power in anything less than a Turbo.

Agreed. I test drove the 997 C4S and really, really missed the grunt. It will build speed, but it doesn't give you that sense of "hang on" you get as you are nearing the top of second gear in the E55
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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Personally I would go for a 996TT even though I like the styling of the 997 muuuuuch more. 996TT can be had for a very reasonable price, throw a APR or AWE tune on it and you're set
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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If you have to transport your kids long distances I'm not sure the p-car is the right choice. If it's just you or a passenger, I can't think of another car that i'd rather take across the country.

As far as the different seats - you need to go sit in them. I have the adaptives (had the regular in my S) and I love them. Plus, on the tt they were a fairly inexpensive option (for porsche, anyway).

As far as must have options = sports chrono, LSD, thicker steering wheel I guess if your buying used. Everything else depends on how much you want the car to be your own, how much money you want to spend. Remember, most of these options add nothing when it comes time to trade in. I don't care - I spec'd my car how I wanted it, and didn't buy it for the next guy. I was also about 30K in options.

Finally, I'd disagree with those that say you won't like anything but a TT. It all depends on what your looking for, and what you want the car to do for you. I came from a modded E55 to an S and while it took me a few weeks to understand what the porsche was about, it was a much more enjoyable car (FOR ME) to drive. If you are a torque junky and can't do without crazy straight line acceleration, then yes, the TT may be better. don't get a 4S. Either 2S (I guess out since you need it in the snow), or TT.

One more thing. I know it's hard to get a test drive at a dealer, but you may want to go visit some of the porsche forums (rennlist, 6speed) and see who lives in your area. You could probably get a test drive with another owner. If your ever near the city or even Westchester i'd be glad to meet up with you. I'm always looking for a road trip as the roads suck around here LOL
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IMO, skip Porsche all together and keep looking for a different car.
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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If you have to transport your kids long distances I'm not sure the p-car is the right choice. If it's just you or a passenger, I can't think of another car that i'd rather take across the country.
+1

Also if you plan on hauling more than a backpack or small suitcase forget about it. The Porsche is built for 2 person weekend getaways or 1 person trackdays. I tried carpooling with the wife and kid in mine for a few months and then realized it just wasn't safe or practical. So I bought the E55... a real family car.
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