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Old 11-01-2008, 08:45 PM
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I'm saying you shouldn't make claims about things you know nothing about (ie charcoal filters, how one tunes a E v C v CLS v CL v S, etc. 63, etc, etc. ). Misinformation like that helps no one.
I get it. I didn't intend to spread a rumor, I was asking about your graphs. VRP doesn't charge for that mod. they posted it and many members since have played with it. I have not, so no I can not make a claim.
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Those statements are libel/fraudulent. If you do not issue a public apology/retraction I will fwd this to my atty.
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I see no where, where Indyjoe mentions your company's name...so where is the libelous comment? Also, satire is protected under the First Amendment of the Constitution...sorry...but if you want to waste your money on attorney's fees be my guest. I actually thought it was a funny...then again I do think some of your responses are funny too... I am just one sick pup...what can I say...

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There are explanations (type of dyno, gear used, other mods) for the 400rw+ "stock" Es.
So is your experience that all the 63s dyno the same, regardless of model? I know there was some question on the C being "de-tuned" but the only new one we dyno'd held up (MNL ICE's)
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I see no where, where Indyjoe mentions your company's name...so where is the libelous comment? Also, satire is protected under the First Amendment of the Constitution...sorry...but if you want to waste your money on attorney's fees be my guest. I actually thought it was a funny...then again I do think some of your responses are funny too... I am just one sick pup...what can I say...

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You call it satire, my atty calls it libel. It was an obvious attack at us (he even used my name) and I'll leave it at that.
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So is your experience that all the 63s dyno the same, regardless of model? I know there was some question on the C being "de-tuned" but the only new one we dyno'd held up (MNL ICE's)
No they do not. From what it looks like The Cs put down the least, then Es/CLSs, then MLs, Ss, CLs.
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I get it. I didn't intend to spread a rumor, I was asking about your graphs. VRP doesn't charge for that mod. they posted it and many members since have played with it. I have not, so no I can not make a claim.
I sure hope they don't charge anyone, it's a 5 minute job. Tried them at both the track and dyno and saw no difference with them (granted this was on an otherwise stock car).
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You call it satire, my atty calls it libel. It was an obvious attack at us (he even used my name) and I'll leave it at that.

He signed it "Andy" and wrote it as if he can do the tuning....don't tell me that the name "Andy" is now proprietary and copyrighted to you and MHP... Yes it is called satire....a number of people found it funny. Wow...you really are showing some thin skin to threaten legal action. People wouldn't post stuff antagonizing you if you didn't react. Saying you will sue indyjoe for libel makes me want to prod you a bit.

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He signed it "Andy" and wrote it as if he can do the tuning....don't tell me that the name "Andy" is now proprietary and copyrighted to you and MHP... Yes it is called satire....a number of people found it funny. Wow...you really are showing some thin skin to threaten legal action. People wouldn't post stuff antagonizing you if you didn't react. Saying you will sue indyjoe for libel makes me want to prod you a bit.

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No they do not. From what it looks like The Cs put down the least, then Es/CLSs, then MLs, Ss, CLs.
So what is the baseline difference between the E and the C? Odd you say that about the ML, because I have seen a few that were really fast. I just assumed AWD helped them launch...
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I sure hope they don't charge anyone, it's a 5 minute job. Tried them at both the track and dyno and saw no difference with them (granted this was on an otherwise stock car).
Nah, the guys just pull them out themselves. Odd they did you no good. At the least they should help with restriction and volume.
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Tired of the BS on this forum we'll do what's necessary to get it to stop.
Threatening people with legal action is not the way to go about doing it.... not reacting to them is....

Plus...I believe that using/reprinting any material from mbworld WITHOUT the express written approval of the administrator or Internet Brands is against the TOU. So unless you want to be sued by mbworld...you might want to consider getting their approval before bringing any legal action against the membership here...

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Nah, the guys just pull them out themselves. Odd they did you no good. At the least they should help with restriction and volume.
Maybe they'd free up a few horses on a more modded car, but again it's not just me that didn't see any difference with or without them. I'd still remove them fwiw.
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Tired of the BS on this forum we'll do what's necessary to get it to stop.
You know what you need to do for that. Threatening people with empty blanks does nothing. We aren't kids here. You may find one person that gets scared by you screaming lawyer. The rest simply laugh.
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Threatening people with legal action is not the way to go about doing it.... not reacting to them is....
Why do you keep attempting to give me advice?

Plus...I believe that using/reprinting any material from mbworld WITHOUT the express written approval of the administrator or Internet Brands is against the TOU. So unless you want to be sued by mbworld...you might want to consider getting their approval before bringing any legal action against the membership here...

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Maybe they'd free up a few horses on a more modded car, but again it's not just me that didn't see any difference with or without them. I'd still remove them fwiw.
I've really only seen it done on stock cars, but I can see where added mods would see more bang from the restriction. I'm not arguing it and it is likely like my K&Ns (where it is difficult to tell true gains or lack of).
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Why do you keep attempting to give me advice?



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You know what you need to do for that. Threatening people with empty blanks does nothing. We aren't kids here. You may find one person that gets scared by you screaming lawyer. The rest simply laugh.
I guess we'll see how long they keep laughing after being served.
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Were you not a sponsor before?
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Are you calling any character witnesses?

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I guess we'll see how long they keep laughing after being served.
Lets not argue it. Do what you need to do. I can't wait.
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We used to be a basic/base sponsor, now we're a premiere sponsor.
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Those statements are libel/fraudulent. If you do not issue a public apology/retraction I will fwd this to my atty.
Keep dreaming Andy,it's called satire and you can't show any damages.

Stick to tuning.
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I guess we'll see how long they keep laughing after being served.
See this is the type of stuff that makes me mad...when someone tries to bully and intimidate others. I wasn't so much giving you advice...as I was making statements to let others know that your threats are empty and unfounded. Go ahead and serve someone with some nonesense suit. They would end up having their attorneys counter sue for harassment. Does that make you scared??? ...of course not...because the whole thing is ridiculous...

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What good does that do? Isn't the purpose to sell your goods? Do premier ones have different ads?
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Keep dreaming Andy,it's called satire and you can't show any damages.

Stick to tuning.
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