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Old 12-13-2008, 10:28 PM
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Thanks man........ I wish you were there to run your beast. Then we would've had 3 SLs there LOL, the SL invasion
I had NO idea you'd get such great prep etc.. I'm def DOWN 4 your next event
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Errr who had a 600 there?
HAHAH!!!! Who? Me? Worry?
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I'm not sure if Jangy was referring to a 600 or to your 600.
I was picking at Sean.....so you guys had the track to 10 cars? SWEET!!!
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That thing is flying on the back half your making another 27.85 mph + your running the same exact times the LIGHTER E55k's are running (Do you have any major weight reductions?)

Your SL55 weighs an EZ 300+lbs more than the E55 W211 Note the no (6) is using a 100 shot of NOS, & his TRAP speed is only 1mph faster than your best

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6) 11.178* 125.240 7.229 98.150 1.704 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG E55K 2005 Rick
7) 11.341*+^ 123.810 7.338 96.670 1.714 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005 rflow
8) 11.362*+ 122.590 7.312 95.930 1.658 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004 HigginsBeach
9) 11.377*+ 121.990 7.310 95.680 1.660 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004 HigginsBeach
10) 11.389*+ 122.240 7.303 95.980 1.610 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004 Derrick DJE55

We can go back and fourth all day....... How about this, I see that you live in So Cal. Right? I'll invite you over to my place and you can bring your mechanic to inspect my car for NOS (since you are so concerned). Also bring a car that you know runs 11.3xx and I will run you on the street and/or track right after your inspection. I wont wager $10,000 on the race, but I'll do it for the hell of it. Or maybe you can bring your 600tt for some action
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Hope people start to realize the new M3 is pretty formidable, especially with DCT. Considering it hasn't been out long and I hit 12.1's already, people have underestimated it.

Pics, please!!
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We can go back and fourth all day....... How about this, I see that you live in So Cal. Right? I'll invite you over to my place and you can bring your mechanic to inspect my car for NOS (since you are so concerned). Also bring a car that you know runs 11.3xx and I will run you on the street and/or track right after your inspection. I wont wager $10,000 on the race, but I'll do it for the hell of it. Or maybe you can bring your 600tt for some action
Your numbers are solid and dead on. Folks around here don't like to believe in Vadim's tunes. Hehe, I smell a mexicali run coming on and we have plenty of 55ks to gauge the SL on.....
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Hope people start to realize the new M3 is pretty formidable, especially with DCT. Considering it hasn't been out long and I hit 12.1's already, people have underestimated it.
Agreed, they did the same thing with the E46, lol, I can't tell you how happy I am you hit that time and trap! GEt that posted up on the forums!
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Agreed, they did the same thing with the E46, lol, I can't tell you how happy I am you hit that time and trap! GEt that posted up on the forums!
Are you kidding? I am going to shove that time down so many people's throats on the various M3 forums.

I got flamed for saying the E92 M3 had potential for 11's NA. People who don't have the car are the experts on it

My 60 foot was 1.950 with BFG drag radials on the 12.1 run, size 275/35/18. Definite room for improvement, the burnout with DCT is the issue but I will have that solved. A 1.8 puts me in the 11's.

Just trying to get my scanner to work.
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Originally Posted by jangy
Pics, please!!
Of what? The car?
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I had NO idea you'd get such great prep etc.. I'm def DOWN 4 your next event
We paid a little extra for better track prep, but traction was still not the greatest since it kept raining on and off before we finally started running . Shawn and Terry had some problems with traction. Had it not rained that morning, we would've had twice as good of a traction. But still, all in all, the track was decently prepped. They sprayed VHT a few times when we asked them to, and the whole Famoso crew was first class all the way.

The rain and humidity killed our DA a bit, which ranged from 0 to 400 ft all day long. I know it's no where near what they have at MIR, but it is very good for California. At Fontana, we usually run at a DA of 3200 ft and temps between 80 to 100 F Only in January, we were running at 65 F and DA was still at 1600 ft

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Originally Posted by URnext
We can go back and fourth all day....... How about this, I see that you live in So Cal. Right? I'll invite you over to my place and you can bring your mechanic to inspect my car for NOS (since you are so concerned). Also bring a car that you know runs 11.3xx and I will run you on the street and/or track right after your inspection. I wont wager $10,000 on the race, but I'll do it for the hell of it. Or maybe you can bring your 600tt for some action
You don't have nitrous, no one saw any nitrous lines or bottles on your ride, we all know you ran on motor, why are people who weren't there even questioning it?
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Are you kidding? I am going to shove that time down so many people's throats on the various M3 forums.

I got flamed for saying the E92 M3 had potential for 11's NA. People who don't have the car are the experts on it

My 60 foot was 1.950 with BFG drag radials on the 12.1 run, size 275/35/18. Definite room for improvement, the burnout with DCT is the issue but I will have that solved. A 1.8 puts me in the 11's.

Just trying to get my scanner to work.
On our next event, if it doesn't rain at all before we start running, you WILL BE IN THE 11s with the same setup that you had today. I still can't get over how fast your car shifted man. Great times.....
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Of what? The car?

Yeah!! I wanna see it staged up. i love cars at a track....
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You don't have nitrous, no one saw any nitrous lines or bottles on your ride, we all know you ran on motor, why are people who weren't there even questioning it?
+1 I saw Sal's car inside and out. I did not see any nitrous and no reason to believe he had nitrous since he had his hood open for all to see the whole time.
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
On our next event, if it doesn't rain at all before we start running, you WILL BE IN THE 11s with the same setup that you had today. I still can't get over how fast your car shifted man. Great times.....
Well thank you, great event.

I'm never wasting my time with Fontana again.

The people at Famoso were nice, helped me out, and prepped the hell out of the track. They were honestly interested in everyone doing their best and having fun. It is much, much better to do an event like this than a public drag day where you can't run who you want or how you want or when you want.
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Originally Posted by jangy
Yeah!! I wanna see it staged up. i love cars at a track....
Maybe someone took pics of it staged, I took no photos.
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+1 I saw Sal's car inside and out. I did not see any nitrous and no reason to believe he had nitrous since he had his hood open for all to see the whole time.
I NEVER accused him of NOS, I only ASKED him, I believe it's valid since the identical VRP SL55 run @ MIR w/Near Sea Level track & -2000 DA netted 120-121 traps

Also the E55 records that weigh 300+lbs less Just curious I gave'em a just NEVER seen such a high TRAP outt've an SL55 w/those mods The other SL55 @MIR has Vadim's tune as well JANGSTER
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Maybe someone took pics of it staged, I took no photos.
I'll look for some pictures taken with my friend's camera. I believe juicee took some pictures as well. Once he gets home, we'll start going through what we have.
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I NEVER accused him of NOS, I only ASKED him, I believe it's valid since the identical VRP SL55 run @ MIR w/Near Sea Level track & -2000 DA netted 120-121 traps

Also the E55 records that weigh 300+lbs less Just curious I gave'em a just NEVER seen such a high TRAP outt've an SL55 w/those mods The other SL55 @MIR has Vadim's tune as well JANGSTER
Yeah his car was running extremely strong. By the way, Sal had the passenger seat removed, so weight may have been closer to the E55s than the SLs....
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....just NEVER seen such a high TRAP outt've an SL55 w/those mods The other SL55 @MIR has Vadim's tune as well JANGSTER
I know it was but which tune? Once you get past the VR600 tune, they aren't standard anymore because no two cars have the same gear. They don't. The Sls have always done well, regardless of weight. Look at Serge's SL55 that came to Fontana last time out. he was at 120mph all day and we were in 90 degree humid weather. He argues that the Sl may be heavier, but has better ability to lay the power down.

If you really want to see what makes an E55 trap well, look at all of the mods and not just their sig.
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We can go back and fourth all day....... How about this, I see that you live in So Cal. Right? I'll invite you over to my place and you can bring your mechanic to inspect my car for NOS (since you are so concerned). Also bring a car that you know runs 11.3xx and I will run you on the street and/or track right after your inspection. I wont wager $10,000 on the race, but I'll do it for the hell of it. Or maybe you can bring your 600tt for some action
I'm not jrcart NO betting needed lol....I'd love to run you on the streets name the time place I'm certain you'll give me a thrashing w/the #'s your putting up, but I LOVE racing win or loose
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I'm not jrcart NO betting needed lol....I'd love to run you on the streets name the time place I'm certain you'll give me a thrashing w/the #'s your putting up, but I LOVE racing win or loose

HAHA!!!!! Thericker does love to run!! I bet he already has URnext's phone number...
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I know it was but which tune? Once you get past the VR600 tune, they aren't standard anymore because no two cars have the same gear. They don't. The Sls have always done well, regardless of weight. Look at Serge's SL55 that came to Fontana last time out. he was at 120mph all day and we were in 90 degree humid weather. He argues that the Sl may be heavier, but has better ability to lay the power down.

If you really want to see what makes an E55 trap well, look at all of the mods and not just their sig.
Jangy you're the consumate BLOWHARD! Of course I have studied their mods
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It sounds like you guys had a blast...it was 30 degrees and rain mixed with snow here in Chicago this afternoon so I am a little bit envious of you guys.

Rick, are you sure that NOS is hooked up right? LOL! I thought you had something for my car bro, 11.7's...I run 1/10th quicker than that on motor, with stock tires in 90 degree heat and 90% humidity...But seriously, congrats on getting another 63 into the 11's I hope to meet some of you guys in about a month.
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Jangy you're the consumate BLOWHARD! Of course I have studied their mods
Then spell them out. To be honest, i don't know so i was hoping you'd tell .

Were both running VRP Pulleys? If so, which revision? If not, there you go. Did both have legit cooling? If not, again there you go. Did both have exhaust done? How old are their respective ecu files? If older than 3 months, do some datalogging and look for throttle position at the top end. I'd bet the slower trapping one isn't open 100% all the run....


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