Salerno713

did he just do 190 in 4th?

Broker

715 lbs of torque??? Crazy. I knew it had to be much more than 738 lbs

jrcart

E55BKS, mine is due in late January, but I'm not getting rid of CLK. I'm still on the fence as to if I should take delivery in Jan or wait it out 4 months and try to save $50k+ off MSRP. These cars are not selling, I was told that less than 30% of the U.S. allocation is sold (and you know some of those peeps will back out last minute), after seeing what happened to the CLK BS prices + the current economy waiting a few months could easily pay for my mods and then some....still undecided. When I do take delivery it's going to get sent out for mods right away. Hopefully MHP can work some magic on the ECU and bump the boost way up there, and I'm thinking titanium headers, exhaust, possibly bigger turbos and maybe Dymags (depends on if and when Dymag ever get me my replacement wheels for CLK).

ItalianStallion

INSANE power for a stock production car. F'in nasty...sexy as hell too. I love the car. Just disappointed in the pricing.

Zod

570rwhp range is nothing but monstrous....I feel there is no need to mod that thing at any lvl...I know I know I say this, but seriously it has the power plus the grip! 325 rears...325!!!!!!!!!!!! ahhhhh

Would be lucky if you got any traction in 3rd in that thing, hence why they did not play with the already monstrous trq of the 65

Dymags may be an option but you have to see how good the stock wheels are, plus can the dymags actually handle that much trq?!?

people have to understand that AMG made a car that can be a DD in enzo form..might be faser also! and its stock!!!

shardul

iTrader: (1)

very nice

jrcart

I mod everything I own, so stock is not an option. 573 whp is only about 50 more than my CLK makes, granted the torque is not comparable. If they are making 573 in stock form, 700 will be relatively easy. Dymags will be a huge improvement over stock wheels, I'm sure they will come in at close to half the weight of the stockers just as they did on my CLK and they can handle the torque just fine I'm told.

Zod

is that hp figure with the funny juice? or the guesstimate you made with current mods over your old mods?

an other way to look at it is, ''is your car a handfull when you give it juice?''
if it is, then this car is more and then some in stock everyday all the time form

..... i must find a way to make lots n lots of money i mean lots!!!
must get SL 65 BS ohhhh the murder that would happen on the streets with this thing!

jangy

I'd like to see a dyno sheet on any 63 putting down 525rwhp or even close without juice.....

HYEPWR

Sorry bro....but 570whp is not enough. A car that weight probably can handle about 630-670whp. By handle I mean that's the traction limit for that street car before any extra power is just wasted as wheel spin.

Ive ridden in 800-1200rwhp corvettes and they just arent fast because of lack of traction. SL65BS is very close to its "fun traction limit" at 570hp.

I tell you one thing---with 650++lbs/ft torque available at 2000rpm--this thing is gonna be soooooooo easy to launch at a track. Wait for the light to turn green and stomp on it = 1.7sec 60' times every time on street tires.

With ET streets I bet Jcart cuts high 1.4's with that thing.

TMC M5

Jim:

I think 700rwhp is not as easy as it sounds with this platform. I believe the SL65 BS is using the same K24 turbos as the other 65s but with a different compressor wheel. I would think that it should be able to produce a little more boost over the "stock" K24s. However, the K24s are not big turbos. I would think that Marko is pretty much at the limit for boost and output (without NOS). Marko is probably putting down somewhere south of 640rwhp. I doubt the compressor wheel changes on the SL65 BS are so dramatic as to be able to flow an additional 60rwhp.

Also look at the engine bay of the SL65 BS and compare it to a regular 65. They have moved the airboxes off the top of the engine and forward into the fenders. That could account for some additional ponies from the "stock" 65 intake system. The "Scorpion" intake system that Marko employs may be higher flowing than the SL65 BS. But using the Scorpion intake in the SL65 BS may not net as dramatic of a gain as the Scorpion system over the "stock" 65 system.

There are obviously other things Marko has done to boost hp...which you would have to do as well to even approach 700rwhp.

Tom

cte430

Anyone read the EVO review? I was surprised - they did not like it at all.

Rouven036

Here are some pics i have taken a few weeks back when i visited the amg hq in affalterbach....

Bones

I read the article and few other european write up on the car, and most were biased towards the negative, I would like to have seen a SL 63 Black. 560-580 hp, the new trans currently offered on the SL 63, and 300-400lbs reduction in weight. That would have made a intersting car. The SL 63 with the performace package has had some good reviews has an overall package. I think AMG missed it with the 65, a 63 would have have been a great addition to the black series line up.

jrcart

Tom, I hear what you are saying, and I knw you know these V-12 tt's very well, but take a look at my post #28, I stated that I might need to upgrade the turbos as well. Until I have the car in a tuners hands it's all speculation, but trust me when I say I will have the fastest SL Black Series on the roads, I won't stop modding it until I have done everything possible. I'm not even close to finished with my CLK, Heads, Cams and Ram-air hood will be on the CLK in time for MIR in March, hell, the Ram-air hood might be on the car in time for Houston

TMC M5

Jim:

No doubt, if you can fit new turbos in then it is a whole new ballgame. The problem with the current 65s is that there is zero room down by the turbo housing and manifolds to put anything much larger. If the SL65 BS affords such room to operate down there the next headache is finding someone to tune the new turbos... this may not be a huge problem...but I am sure it will be an expensive one. Regardless, if you come close to the 700rwhp figure and lighten the car even further, I am sure it will be the first MB into the 9's

I am actually glad someone with an unbriddled enthusiasm for performance modding and an unlimited budget is taking on such a project. I really hope it goes well.

Tom

Salerno713

Im sure you can fit biger turbos, if not in the engine bay, maybe rear mounted turbos like many kits now ive been seeing. One of my buddys is doing the STS TT kit on a corvette, even though there is room to do it under the hood, there rear mounted turbos under neath the car near the exhaust.

Thericker

W/Little tiny drop & black out stock wheels w/RED Calipers

TMC M5

I think VRP was looking at the idea of having the stock turbos up front and an STS-like rear mounted turbo kit for a quad-turbo set-up for their VRP1000 SL65. I am not sure what happened to that project. It is an interesting idea...just not sure if the rear mounted turbos are limited in the amount of boost they can produce. I read somewhere that the length of the intake tubing coming from the rear actually acts as an intercooler dropping the IATs significantly compared to underhood turbos. But I haven't seen an application for higher levels of boost.

Tom

Quadcammer

those stock wheels are awful looking

MidniteBluBenz

I agree

COR Forged

awesome numbers!!! nice beast

neveo

first thing i would replace.....

New2this

I can give you an update on the VRP1000 SL65... It's my car!!!

Vadim has the car up and running.. it has taken over a year to complete..

It should see the dyno this coming week..

With "just" the Scorpion Intake "aka Marko's" it put down 571 rwhp.

In addition to that intake my car has 2 GT40s mounted behind the rear tires, heads ported and polished, larger cams, extensive Tranny upgrades, and intensive cooling mods...

My HOPE is that the car will put down mid 700's whp, possibly low 800's..

With decent traction, the car SHOULD run in the high 9s in the high 130s... we'll see I guess.

Thericker

Dayum! I've been waiting on release of "Scorpion Intake" & "Intercoolers" (Both V12 TT 600/65 models share the exact same Intake/Intercoolers)

What was Baseline dyno before Scorpion Intake? also any info on pricing? I already got a round quote from Vadim on Intercoolers, but NO info on Scorpion Intake pricing...Thanks! Can't wait to see your finished BEAST & Dynos