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Old 01-06-2009, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jangy
You are about on. It may even be worse, since he has power. I've seen C32 times that are at the 1:30 mark. Add another 200ish HP and it helps on that track.

Either way, like I said, I don't expect to get money unless he runs off the road. I'm sure we will have an over and under before the event.
What C32? That's faster than most racecar's are lapping
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Old 01-06-2009, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by E55Pilot
No there are no shortcuts. I guess you could try to cut across the "Infield" but there are several hidden drainage ditches that will swallow a car
Ok, cool, I just wanted to make sure becasue a lot of tracks I have raced on have chicanes that can easily be overshot resulting in lap times several seconds quicker, Daytona comes to mind where once I wanted to find out how much the chicane on the back straight slowed us down. I over shot it on my 600 on purpose and I went from a high 2:01 down to a low 1:51, that thing costs you over 10 seconds.
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I HAVE NEVER BEEN ON WILLOW IN MY LIFE...Is 6 hours enough time for me to master the track
I wish I was going to be in town, I'd show the fast way around the track.
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Originally Posted by Jim Brady
Agreed, conditions make a world of difference at WSIR. Nobody is going to be going 1:32's guaranteed. But this is about having fun. Lota internet racers out there, my moto just show up.
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Jimmy, don't get any ideas, this bet is not open to you...I hear you are da man to beat at Willow.

BTW, how tall are you? Anywhere close to 5'10-6'1"? If you can fit in my car I might want to see what kind of lap times you can lay down in my car vs yours. It would be interesting to gauge my mods vs your car and what kind of gains they are giving me.
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If you've found a way to keep a W211 E55 from pushing the front end on a fast track, please do share.
The last time I ran Willows I did not have time to prep, so all I did was put the rear rims and tires on the front and vice versa. The car no longer pushed but wasn't really balanced, since the rear wanted to come out but that much. Any car can be balanced. That doesn't mean it will be fast.
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Originally Posted by jrcart
Ok, cool, I just wanted to make sure becasue a lot of tracks I have raced on have chicanes that can easily be overshot resulting in lap times several seconds quicker, Daytona comes to mind where once I wanted to find out how much the chicane on the back straight slowed us down. I over shot it on my 600 on purpose and I went from a high 2:01 down to a low 1:51, that thing costs you over 10 seconds.
You mean like when Nissan straighlined the bus stop at Buttonwillow in the skyline when it was tested against the vette and 911. no one could understand why it was 5 seconds faster....
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Any car can be balanced. That doesn't mean it will be fast.
Oh god not again......
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Originally Posted by jrcart
Jangy, it's an either or race, 2.00 seconds my best lap compared to your best lap of the day or a 5 lap wheel-to-wheel race with no times margin of victory required, first guy across the line wins...pick one or the other, this is not a mix and match sale. .
I'd keep it timed and not wheel to wheel. (Just in case)

Also regarding 2 secs a lap vs. 5 laps/10 secs, I'd go for 2 secs Jangy. Your tires are going to be so gone that your times are gonna just get worse and worse. It will be much better for JR since his tires won't go bad nearly as quick.

This is going to be such a schooling it will be hilarious. PLEASE PLEASE someone record this sticky event.
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Just for the record, anyone that reads this and thinks I'm being a d!ck for offering such a lop sided race, it was Jangy that has been the one claiming to be able to beat my car with his E55 on a road course...strange how he is suddenly changing his tune, but if anyone needs proof I would be more than happy to dig through the archieves and raise some of Jangy's comments from the dead.

He's bringing a knife to a gun fight.
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He's bringing a knife to a gun fight.
More like he's bringing a rock to a Tactical Nuke fest
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Originally Posted by jrcart
Just for the record, anyone that reads this and thinks I'm being a d!ck for offering such a lop sided race, it was Jangy that has been the one claiming to be able to beat my car with his E55 on a road course...strange how he is suddenly changing his tune, but if anyone needs proof I would be more than happy to dig through the archieves and raise some of Jangy's comments from the dead.

He's bringing a knife to a gun fight.
Dig it up. You are such a ***** that it isn't even funny. I am going to see just how close I can get. You are a fool to not see reality. I can't lose, you bafoon!! So what if you walk me? Just don't run off the road at 9. It is nothing like that patch of grass you rolled into.

When did I ever say any E55 is faster than a CLKBS on a race curcuit? Why would I? I have always said that my E55 is nothing different than any other E55. I have said that you will get spanked at the 1/4 track, but you will. That is totally different than this crap you love to setup.

How about next we go dessert racing? I'll give you 3.5 seconds and bet my buggy can climb a dune better than your CLK?
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Originally Posted by E55Pilot
Oh god not again......
What did I say this time? The car doesn't exactly handle so i wasn't gonna spend too much time on it. Am I off by saying that any car can be balanced? Or that even a balanced car can be slow?
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Originally Posted by E55Pilot
More like he's bringing a rock to a Tactical Nuke fest
lmao

Well, this should be interesting to see what happens.
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Wheel to wheel. Giving me 2 seconds on your best lap is hopeless for me. At least having to navigate around me may give me a chance. Once you get by you just have to survive.
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Wheel to wheel. Giving me 2 seconds on your best lap is hopeless for me. At least having to navigate around me may give me a chance. Once you get by you just have to survive.
You think wheel to wheel you'll be able to cross the finish line before him?
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I think what he was saying was that him being on the track will throw off JR's game.
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Originally Posted by jangy
Dig it up. You are such a ***** that it isn't even funny. I am going to see just how close I can get. You are a fool to not see reality. I can't lose, you bafoon!! So what if you walk me?
You don't really understand how exit speed influences your straightaway speed.
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I think what he was saying was that him being on the track will throw off JR's game.
Well, I guess he can get off the line quicker but the bs is much more nimble. IDK I've never driven on a track before so I don't want to talk to much.
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There is one way Jangy can win.

If he doesnt leave the start line his time is 0.0 and JrCart will be 1:32, Jangy will win by 1:32 seconds. Yay give me the 5g's
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Originally Posted by jangy
Wheel to wheel. Giving me 2 seconds on your best lap is hopeless for me. At least having to navigate around me may give me a chance. Once you get by you just have to survive.
Willow is know to racers as "The I-5" since it's so wide. Braking into 1 he will pass you, if you somehow hold him off there he will pass you in the braking zone into 4, going up into 5 or down the hill into 6. Then you will NEVER see him again as he runs away from you over 7 into 8 and he will put half a straight on you from his exit at 9.
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oh man...

I'm considering going to Willow Springs just to watch this.
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oh man...

I'm considering going to Willow Springs just to watch this.
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Anyone wanna carpool?
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