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Old 02-13-2009, 12:11 AM
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AMG is presently developing a whole new lineup of diesel versions with ultra-lightweight materials and advance construction processes including, and hybrid systems, of course. By 2010, according to AutoTelegraaf, AMG will be introducing stop-start and direct-injection technology throughout its range.

AMG’s stop-start will work much in the same way as the regular system where the engine is powered down at full stop and revived when the brake pedal is released or the accelerator is activated. On the other hand, the direct injection system will be patterned after the second generation found in the C350 CGI BlueEFFICIENCY version of Mercedes-Benz

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They tried this and failed once before with a EUro only C32 that was based an a C230 coupe with a turbo charged V6 diesel. Sales were crap.
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Actually the new Diesels are amazing. If it wernt for emmsions they would dominate. They dont rev too high and sound that great....... but in exchange they give

30-40% better fuel economy!!

maybe DOUBLE the wear(estimate). Diesels are BULLETPROOF. they ROUTINELY go for 300-500k miles!!

TORQUEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! If you love low end torque you will LOVE diesels. Here is a dyno for you of what a turbo diesel can make....



Yeah...thats 1059rwhp and 1200ft/lbs of torque....please notice that it has over 750lbs/ft of torque at 2000rpm......can u say; "Roast the tires"

I know it only revs to 4000rpm...but still.....they can give up some torque for rpm. A 4L turbo diesel can make 700 torque and rev to 5800rpm Im sure....and get 30mpg.
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It almost sounded like that they were going to introduce it throught the whole range of vehicles...not only diesels but gas vehicles as well. At least that's the take I got on this.
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I agree that the new diesels have amazing torque and AUdi has proven that they can dominate on the race track. I don't really know what to make of it as one thing that draws me to performance cars is the fun of a free revving gas engine that sounds great. That will be gone with a diesel.

I just about s**t myself today when I saw that one of the open wheel car manufacturers was committing to produce a run of electric race cars this year. They will have excellent performance, 45 minute run times, and do 150MPH but that ruins it for me as there is no gas engine. There is NOTHING green about racing so why even bother.

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I agree that the new diesels have amazing torque and AUdi has proven that they can dominate on the race track. I don't really know what to make of it as one thing that draws me to performance cars is the fun of a free revving gas engine that sounds great. That will be gone with a diesel.

I just about s**t myself today when I saw that one of the open wheel car manufacturers was committing to produce a run of electric race cars this year. They will have excellent performance, 45 minute run times, and do 150MPH but that ruins it for me as there is no gas engine. There is NOTHING green about racing so why even bother.

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Soo true bro....what an engineer will tell you is;

"Dont worry buddy--we'll put a small speaker in the back and digitally pipe the sound of a Pagani Zonda F...You'll never know the differance"

This is about when I throw up!!

end of times buddy...end of times...
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I'm cool with this idea, if they can give it good top end performance and keep the gas lineup of cars.


I would also venture to guess that they can make a 6cyl turbo diesel competitive with a V8 FI gas engine. I previously had a E320 CDI with a Kleemann KD box & while it wasn't an E55, it was still pretty sick. An AMG diesel with bigger turbos, cooling & the "standard" AMG suspension & braking would have some serious potential.

I'd check it out for sure.

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