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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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I'm sure the new V is awesome, I have been meaning to drive one. My current V left such a bad taste is my mouth about GM's, I'm sure you heard my gripes about being on my 7th rear-end that's one of the reasons I choose to not hang on to the ZR1. The car was a monster stock and now it is a real monster, just so fragile. I did just purchase a new Chevy Avalanche last week, we will see how that treats me before I commit to any more GM products. I must also admit the new Camaro has caught my eye and have thought about buying one of those and gutting it and turning it into a street legal 1/4 mile monster. I can't get too ahead of myself though, I am modding the hell out of the Avalanche and hopfully the new SL will be here in the next few weeks, those two projects should keep me busy enough.
Jim, what's planned for the Avey? Turbos? PM me if interested.
I for one, am glad you continue to push the envelope and share your good and bad experiences. Keep up the good work.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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If the caddy could possibly muster a 11.2-11.3 w/tuning, and maybe add in some gearing, imagine w/125-150shot!

Definately low 10 sec potential, possibly 9's perhaps who knows. But the fact the car is so new and running these times, tells me its going to be a beast in its own right.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dasrok8
Jim, what's planned for the Avey? Turbos? PM me if interested.
I for one, am glad you continue to push the envelope and share your good and bad experiences. Keep up the good work.
Regards,
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No turbos LOL, just intake, exhaust, ECU, a small 2 inch lift kit, 4-wheel big brake kit, 22" flat black wheels, fender flares, slightly over sized semi off-road tires (not sure of size yet until we get the lift on it, two-tone flat black on top/gloss white on bottom paint job, new hood, tinted windows and a flat black billet grill insert. I just bought it becasue I need a tow vehicle to tow my trailer when I don't feel like hooking up to the big hauler, I wanted a white H2 SUT, but there is none equiped how I want it anywhere in the country and I guess the factory is shut down so a special order was out of the question, so I went with the Avalanche. I will send you some pics when I am done...give me a few weeks.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dasrok8
Jim, man I thought you were a "CAR-GUY". They REALLY did change shiate.

Never mind all the hyperboil about cheap GM stuff, I agreee to a certain extent, but go take one for a real flogging.
As for the Hennesey run it was on 20" PS2's.

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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by alltrac
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/W...TSV_636186.htm

thought it would be faster...think it has pulley, long tube headers, tune, upgrade HE, midpipes, high-flow cats, Cold air induction. An E55 with same stuff is just as fast. Maybe the Cadi is all hype
Wow..its a good time but I expected that in stock form...I'll stick to C63.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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124 is fast...


Nice car, and it can back it up.

As said before.. a used CTS-V are going to be great buys.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 10:53 PM
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I can't believe it only reached 11.45 with all these mods..... Like someone said earlier, there are E55s running 11.20 and 11.10 with similar or at least comparable mods
What E55s that are running these mods are running faster than an 11.45 on street tires? I'd say none.

the cars like mine have DRs, throttle body and cams...so definitely not an apples to apples comparison. I am impressed with this timeslip. How long did it take the 55 motors to run 11.45 - 2 years at least? I bet this things will be in the 10s years before the 55amg motors are. We are now 6 years out and not one 55amg has gotten into the 10s without the juice. I am sure this will change in 2009 but still...give this car props.

The only car that comes close for similar mods is DJE's / Derek's car which had DRs and pulled an 11.38@123 or so with a low 1.6x short time.

If this dude slaps on DRs his 1.95 short time can drop to 1.7 and his 11.45 will drop to a 11.1-11.2@125. And he doesn't have cams, throttle body mod and weights 200 more...pretty darn impressive if you ask me.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by e55 baller
What E55s that are running these mods are running faster than an 11.45 on street tires? I'd say none.

the cars like mine have DRs, throttle body and cams...so definitely not an apples to apples comparison. I am impressed with this timeslip. How long did it take the 55 motors to run 11.45 - 2 years at least? I bet this things will be in the 10s years before the 55amg motors are. We are now 6 years out and not one 55amg has gotten into the 10s without the juice. I am sure this will change in 2009 but still...give this car props.

The only car that comes close for similar mods is DJE's / Derek's car which had DRs and pulled an 11.38@123 or so with a low 1.6x short time.

If this dude slaps on DRs his 1.95 short time can drop to 1.7 and his 11.45 will drop to a 11.1-11.2@125. And he doesn't have cams, throttle body mod and weights 200 more...pretty darn impressive if you ask me.

I believe his 60' was a 1.77, the 1.95 was his reaction time according to the slip they show on the video. 1.77 is respectable, as I already stated, traction was the big issue with the old V. If that 1.77 was on street tires I am very very impressed. That looked like a pretty clean launch, not sure if that was a hop or just a chip about 50 feet out. The best I can muster with my Lingenfelter on street tires is a 2.06 60', it either smokes the tires, or on the rare occasion it would hook, it hops all over the place and sounds like I am going to drop the rear axle on the track. I'm sure there is plenty more to come with this platform of the V, should be an easy 10 second car.

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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jrcart
I believe his 60' was a 1.77, the 1.95 was his reaction time according to the slip they show on the video. 1.77 is respectable, as I already stated, traction was the big issue with the old V. If that 1.77 was on street tires I am very very impressed. That looked like a pretty clean launch, not sure if that was a hop or just a chip about 50 feet out. The best I can muster with my Lingenfelter on street tires is a 2.06 60', it either smokes the tires, or on the rare occasion it would hook, it hops all over the place and sounds like I am going to drop the rear axle on the track. I'm sure there is plenty more to come with this platform of the V, should be an easy 10 second car.
I believe someone above found it to be drag radials.

Your CTS-V is on its 7th read end...IIRC, you said the factory replaced it five times which begs the question why the tuner you used also had at least one failed upgraded rear end? Again, if I am reading your posts correctly.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:34 AM
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I believe someone above found it to be drag radials.

Your CTS-V is on its 7th read end...IIRC, you said the factory replaced it five times which begs the question why the tuner you used also had at least one failed upgraded rear end? Again, if I am reading your posts correctly.
At the time the oem unit waas the only unit available, then they upgraded me to the "updated" 2006 oem unit that was supposed to be better, it was not, finally Lingenfelter fit a stronger unit in there and it has been good ever since.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 10:05 AM
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i dunno if everyone realizes this....the CTS is running drag radials!!!!!
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 10:21 AM
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i dunno if everyone realizes this....the CTS is running drag radials!!!!!
Is that a fact or speculation? In the first run when I try freezing the video the rears look like the HRE's...at least 19"s. I haven't heard of 19" drag radial so I would assume it is not. The second run it is harder to see...but it looks like alot of metal and lip on that wheel..similar to the first run.

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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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Is that a fact or speculation? In the first run when I try freezing the video the rears look like the HRE's...at least 19"s. I haven't heard of 19" drag radial so I would assume it is not. The second run it is harder to see...but it looks like alot of metal and lip on that wheel..similar to the first run.

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Well, Hennessey themselves claimed they used drag radials. See my post #22 above.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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Well, Hennessey themselves claimed they used drag radials. See my post #22 above.
My bad....maybe it is time for me to get some glasses... or pull my head out of my....

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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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hmmm, if they used drag radials its still pretty much the same speed as DJE's 11.38 run. Add heads, cams, and a throttle body to this car and its in the 10s...give it 1 year.

I need more power!
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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Hey Glen

Originally Posted by c32used
Hey bud how ya been?
I'm hanging in there. I'm chomping at the bit for some nice weather. I can't wait to get TORXILA back out.

If Wayne has another track day, let me know in case I miss the posting.
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I'm still thinking of selling the 'vette and gettting an SL55 or E63 (wagon would be cool). I'm afraid I'll miss the torque of my turbos though. I keep checking autotrader/Ebay all the time. Prices are getting better.

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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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Hey bud

Originally Posted by c32used
Hey bud how ya been?
I'm hanging in there. I'm chomping at the bit for some nice weather. I can't wait to get TORXILA back out.

If Wayne has another track day, let me know in case I miss the posting.
ggray@stakindustries.com

I'm still thinking of selling the 'vette and gettting an SL55 or E63 (wagon would be cool). I'm afraid I'll miss the torque of my turbos though. I keep checking autotrader/Ebay all the time. Prices are getting better.

TTYL

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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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hmmm, if they used drag radials its still pretty much the same speed as DJE's 11.38 run. Add heads, cams, and a throttle body to this car and its in the 10s...give it 1 year.

I need more power!

Baller---they dont even need a year!!

They ALREADY have a better IC (from the ZR1).....

I was reading that the STOCK....I SAID STOCK ZR1 throttle boddy is 76mm!!!! In short order (1-2 months) Accufab will come out with a 160mm single blade TB for them like the cobra's have......Just those 2 mods will be worth 60-70whp and 6mph!!

Put money on it----Pulley/Headers/Tune/IC/TB---will trap 130+mph THIS SUMMER.

Did we mention that the whole lot of mods i mentioned will cost $4,000-5000 tops!!

+10000000 for these cars being a used car bargain!!
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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Baller---they dont even need a year!!

They ALREADY have a better IC (from the ZR1).....

I was reading that the STOCK....I SAID STOCK ZR1 throttle boddy is 76mm!!!! In short order (1-2 months) Accufab will come out with a 160mm single blade TB for them like the cobra's have......Just those 2 mods will be worth 60-70whp and 6mph!!

Put money on it----Pulley/Headers/Tune/IC/TB---will trap 130+mph THIS SUMMER.

Did we mention that the whole lot of mods i mentioned will cost $4,000-5000 tops!!

+10000000 for these cars being a used car bargain!!
I think the really limiting factor for the CTS-V will be that it doesn't have the forged internals that the ZR1 has. The ZR1 will safely benefit from those mods...not sure I would leave the CTS-V's internals alone if I was going that route.

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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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They may not be forged, but I don't think they would build a boosted car that didn't have internals that could stand up to boost. I could be wrong though I suppose.
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I am going to keep my eye out on this car and the GT-R as one of those will likely replace or be added to my stable in the next 1-2 years...My E55 is now going on 7 years old. Damm. I don't want to be one of those guys rolling around in a car that is 2-3 generations back from the late year model thinking that they just don't make cars like they used to in 2003.

Dan 160mm TB. thats insane. I can't wait to see these. Add a 100 shot and your at 140mph. Big Single Supra territory.

Originally Posted by HYEPWR
Baller---they dont even need a year!!

They ALREADY have a better IC (from the ZR1).....

I was reading that the STOCK....I SAID STOCK ZR1 throttle boddy is 76mm!!!! In short order (1-2 months) Accufab will come out with a 160mm single blade TB for them like the cobra's have......Just those 2 mods will be worth 60-70whp and 6mph!!

Put money on it----Pulley/Headers/Tune/IC/TB---will trap 130+mph THIS SUMMER.

Did we mention that the whole lot of mods i mentioned will cost $4,000-5000 tops!!

+10000000 for these cars being a used car bargain!!
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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I think the ebay ad answers the issues with drag radials. They were running the new Nitto 20" drag radials. Those drag radials are super tall 275/40R20 (28.82) or 305/35R20 (28.58). It was no wonder the sidewalls looked large. I am sure an 18" drag radial would have performed much better.

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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3903&viewitem=

I think the ebay ad answers the issues with drag radials. They were running the new Nitto 20" drag radials. Those drag radials are super tall 275/40R20 (28.82) or 305/35R20 (28.58). It was no wonder the sidewalls looked large. I am sure an 18" drag radial would have performed much better.

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I like how they advertise "Faster than AMG"...where?....
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3903&viewitem=

I think the ebay ad answers the issues with drag radials. They were running the new Nitto 20" drag radials. Those drag radials are super tall 275/40R20 (28.82) or 305/35R20 (28.58). It was no wonder the sidewalls looked large. I am sure an 18" drag radial would have performed much better.

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20" drag radials? It's amazing there's enough customer demand for Nitto to produce that size.
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20" drag radials? It's amazing there's enough customer demand for Nitto to produce that size.
What ticks me off is..they jump from 18" to 20"....no 19"s...what the heck???

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