Who has the fastest E55?
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We have a couple of dragstrips in the Houston Area, plus the street racing, first one is very legal, second one unless a cop sees you it is also legal 
I have a link at home for all the dragstrips in the country, I'll look for it and post it here
I have a link at home for all the dragstrips in the country, I'll look for it and post it here
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Hmmm...how about high 9s?
Sorry, I'm subverting into kindergarten style "who's bigger" banter but.....
There's a 1000hp 98 lexus turbo SC300 in texas owned by a guy named Clint Pohler.
http://www.turboimports.com/clinpoh97t76.html
I'm a BIG FAN of his car(in fact, if I could financially..i'd buy it).
I'd think this car would give you E55(past, present, future)guys a run for your money. Even the supercharged guys =)
4 seater luxury coupe. W/mods would probably be the price of a stock 03 E55
Anyhow that car does high 9s w/slicks and mid to high 10s w/street tires.
Simply Amazing.
That's faster than the McClaren F1 or next gen Ferari Enzo or even the upcoming Vision SLR
I know I know...there are lots of honda civic fast and furious cars doing 9-10s but they're stripped down pieces of thin metal.
This is a luxury coupe doing those numbers!
It's amazing what tuning u can do these days.
I LOVE the E55, don't get me wrong, but just that a luxury car can do 10s on street tires blows my mind
There's a 1000hp 98 lexus turbo SC300 in texas owned by a guy named Clint Pohler.
http://www.turboimports.com/clinpoh97t76.html
I'm a BIG FAN of his car(in fact, if I could financially..i'd buy it).
I'd think this car would give you E55(past, present, future)guys a run for your money. Even the supercharged guys =)
4 seater luxury coupe. W/mods would probably be the price of a stock 03 E55
Anyhow that car does high 9s w/slicks and mid to high 10s w/street tires.
Simply Amazing.
That's faster than the McClaren F1 or next gen Ferari Enzo or even the upcoming Vision SLR
I know I know...there are lots of honda civic fast and furious cars doing 9-10s but they're stripped down pieces of thin metal.
This is a luxury coupe doing those numbers!
It's amazing what tuning u can do these days.
I LOVE the E55, don't get me wrong, but just that a luxury car can do 10s on street tires blows my mind
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with all due respect... I must say you are pretty ignorant when it come to cars and drag racing.
A 10, 9 , 8 second whatever is nothing special. Look at all you have to do to it to accomplish that. The 211 E55 runs a 12.4 (viper and z06 territory) box stock with a full warranty, sound deadening, spare tire, and full luxury accouturements. Now thats impressive!!
Take that 100 shot of nitrous out of it and it a bone stock (211) E55 will smoke it. It might barely break the 12's. I've been drag racing high end imports for years and trust me, thats a fact!
A 10, 9 , 8 second whatever is nothing special. Look at all you have to do to it to accomplish that. The 211 E55 runs a 12.4 (viper and z06 territory) box stock with a full warranty, sound deadening, spare tire, and full luxury accouturements. Now thats impressive!!
Take that 100 shot of nitrous out of it and it a bone stock (211) E55 will smoke it. It might barely break the 12's. I've been drag racing high end imports for years and trust me, thats a fact!
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that's what I'm talking about
That SC300 has 19 inch wheels, has a spare tire, and luxury ammenities as well.
The warranty is where you get it...I agree.
But I'm not comparing a stripped down civic.
It's a performance luxury coupe to a performance luxury sedan
So to get in the 9s w/a all the luxury amenties is impressive..aftermarket or not
The warranty is where you get it...I agree.
But I'm not comparing a stripped down civic.
It's a performance luxury coupe to a performance luxury sedan
So to get in the 9s w/a all the luxury amenties is impressive..aftermarket or not
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take it easy
Dang bro...take a chill pill
You taking this stuff WAY to seriously...
Man...to my knowledge he is not running NOS to hit those numbers.
Luxury cars w/all their components hitting 9s-10s is impressive stock or not.
So anyhow...turbo and sc are fair comparisons but NOS yes is not.
But anyhow..take it easy...it's just a forum...
and I DO LOVE the E55..I stated that earlier. If I could afford the turbo SC3 or the E55..I'd be happy. No complaints either way.
You taking this stuff WAY to seriously...
Man...to my knowledge he is not running NOS to hit those numbers.
Luxury cars w/all their components hitting 9s-10s is impressive stock or not.
So anyhow...turbo and sc are fair comparisons but NOS yes is not.
But anyhow..take it easy...it's just a forum...
and I DO LOVE the E55..I stated that earlier. If I could afford the turbo SC3 or the E55..I'd be happy. No complaints either way.
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Nah Its all good, I just dont let people get away with talk like that.
As soon as I saw the pics of that engine, I knew it had nitrous to hit those numbers.
Look at the size of that turbo. It will never spool completely through the quarter mile. Its just too damn big and only 6 cylinder pushin it.
Yea it may have 1000hp, i wont argue that, but thats only on the dyno. In a quarter mile, without nitrous, it wont even hit 500hp. It would need a mile run to get that turbo going fully and produce those numbers.
At the strip, the turbo will be completely asleep until 3rd gear.
All that work is done with the strip in mind. Driving that thing on a daily basis is hell compared to a mercedes! MAjor lag and NO torque down low. Around town the turbo will NEVER spool and the lag will make it feel like a neon!
I am used to seeing these posts by kiddies when they say look at this honda that can beat a viper. They take into account what the car will be doing .9% of its time and dont take into account everything else. So thats why i say big deal
ps I dont have an (211) E55
As soon as I saw the pics of that engine, I knew it had nitrous to hit those numbers.
Look at the size of that turbo. It will never spool completely through the quarter mile. Its just too damn big and only 6 cylinder pushin it.
Yea it may have 1000hp, i wont argue that, but thats only on the dyno. In a quarter mile, without nitrous, it wont even hit 500hp. It would need a mile run to get that turbo going fully and produce those numbers.
At the strip, the turbo will be completely asleep until 3rd gear.
All that work is done with the strip in mind. Driving that thing on a daily basis is hell compared to a mercedes! MAjor lag and NO torque down low. Around town the turbo will NEVER spool and the lag will make it feel like a neon!
I am used to seeing these posts by kiddies when they say look at this honda that can beat a viper. They take into account what the car will be doing .9% of its time and dont take into account everything else. So thats why i say big deal
ps I dont have an (211) E55
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well
I can't really discuss the responsiveness of that car since I never drove it. I guess u could pose those questions to the owner Clint. I'm sure he'd have responses for you.
ALso, I thought turbos can be tuned to spool earlier to provide more low end torque?
So that Lexus turbo SC300 car is not a fun car to drive around in the street?
ON a side note..would you prefer supercharging over turbos?
what would u choose for more power...given your knowledge of drag?
Hey AUtostream..
what do u make of the supercharger on this car?
http://www.swiftracing.com/video/pics.htm
I think he was running boost at like 30lbs for this centrifugal supercharger, and the car did only about 12s...I think it was pushing 11s or more later, w/nos and blew a head gasket.
Does that look line a solid install?
ALso, I thought turbos can be tuned to spool earlier to provide more low end torque?
So that Lexus turbo SC300 car is not a fun car to drive around in the street?
ON a side note..would you prefer supercharging over turbos?
what would u choose for more power...given your knowledge of drag?
Hey AUtostream..
what do u make of the supercharger on this car?
http://www.swiftracing.com/video/pics.htm
I think he was running boost at like 30lbs for this centrifugal supercharger, and the car did only about 12s...I think it was pushing 11s or more later, w/nos and blew a head gasket.
Does that look line a solid install?
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Re: well
Tune a turbo? like yourself? I never heard of that. Usually you buy a turbo suited to your needs. If you was one with low end torque, you get a normal sized one that spools quickly. Though it wont generate the high hp of larger ones. Huge turbos produce large amounts of power but takes forever to get going because they are huge.
A guy named Paisley build the fastest supras around here. Same basic engine as that sc300. He isin the 8's or 9's i beleive. He uses TWO gigantic turbos to get that power. But those turbos would never spool on 3 cylinders. He needs the nitrous initially to spool. Nitrous is basically cheating anyway. I mean if you are going to spray, why bother will the turbos anyway, just complicates stuff and adds $$$$.
1000hp? that car is designed to drag race.. i'm sure he drives it on the street and prolly claims it comforatable, but its no way like a stock sc300 ride,handling, and responsivness. it only looks stock from the outside!
Turbos def will produce more power and so much better for drag racing than s/c. But lag is its major drawback especially for driving on the street.
s/c has zero lag cuz its always on. so for a street app, it would work nicely. That s/c lexus prolly is very streetable and a 12.0 drag run is very respectable, though it was prolly on slicks.
though using NOS isnt very impressive. on motor only it would be
my .02
A guy named Paisley build the fastest supras around here. Same basic engine as that sc300. He isin the 8's or 9's i beleive. He uses TWO gigantic turbos to get that power. But those turbos would never spool on 3 cylinders. He needs the nitrous initially to spool. Nitrous is basically cheating anyway. I mean if you are going to spray, why bother will the turbos anyway, just complicates stuff and adds $$$$.
1000hp? that car is designed to drag race.. i'm sure he drives it on the street and prolly claims it comforatable, but its no way like a stock sc300 ride,handling, and responsivness. it only looks stock from the outside!
Turbos def will produce more power and so much better for drag racing than s/c. But lag is its major drawback especially for driving on the street.
s/c has zero lag cuz its always on. so for a street app, it would work nicely. That s/c lexus prolly is very streetable and a 12.0 drag run is very respectable, though it was prolly on slicks.
though using NOS isnt very impressive. on motor only it would be
my .02
Originally posted by Nighttrain
I can't really discuss the responsiveness of that car since I never drove it. I guess u could pose those questions to the owner Clint. I'm sure he'd have responses for you.
ALso, I thought turbos can be tuned to spool earlier to provide more low end torque?
So that Lexus turbo SC300 car is not a fun car to drive around in the street?
ON a side note..would you prefer supercharging over turbos?
what would u choose for more power...given your knowledge of drag?
Hey AUtostream..
what do u make of the supercharger on this car?
http://www.swiftracing.com/video/pics.htm
I think he was running boost at like 30lbs for this centrifugal supercharger, and the car did only about 12s...I think it was pushing 11s or more later, w/nos and blew a head gasket.
Does that look line a solid install?
I can't really discuss the responsiveness of that car since I never drove it. I guess u could pose those questions to the owner Clint. I'm sure he'd have responses for you.
ALso, I thought turbos can be tuned to spool earlier to provide more low end torque?
So that Lexus turbo SC300 car is not a fun car to drive around in the street?
ON a side note..would you prefer supercharging over turbos?
what would u choose for more power...given your knowledge of drag?
Hey AUtostream..
what do u make of the supercharger on this car?
http://www.swiftracing.com/video/pics.htm
I think he was running boost at like 30lbs for this centrifugal supercharger, and the car did only about 12s...I think it was pushing 11s or more later, w/nos and blew a head gasket.
Does that look line a solid install?
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Not sure how this thread degenerated into a discussion of Clint's SC car, but suffice to say you're both wrong. His car does run a small NOS shot to jump-start the turbo, but even without the spray it'd still make plenty of power and spool by the 60' mark, to say nothing of the 1/4 mile. I should know, I used to own a twin-turbo Supra which made 710 HP without spray.
Back on topic -- how are you guys launching the E-cars to get 1.9 - 2.0 60's? I would have expected the E to launch better than my S600, since your cars are 400-600 lbs lighter than mine, but I'm able to crack off repeated 1.8s / low 1.9s. Are you doing a burnout before staging? Brake torquing? I'm here to help -- we MB drag racers need to stick together
Back on topic -- how are you guys launching the E-cars to get 1.9 - 2.0 60's? I would have expected the E to launch better than my S600, since your cars are 400-600 lbs lighter than mine, but I'm able to crack off repeated 1.8s / low 1.9s. Are you doing a burnout before staging? Brake torquing? I'm here to help -- we MB drag racers need to stick together
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Launching an automatic?
I was wondering how you guys launch your automatics from a standstill?
How exactly? brake and launch and then let go of the brake?
Sorry I'm new at this.
Break it down for me =)
How exactly? brake and launch and then let go of the brake?
Sorry I'm new at this.
Break it down for me =)
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On the E55 you can't power brake (step on the brake and bring rpms up, to 800 rpm or more)
Well, you can but every time you try this you will spin your tires at the track. All I do is punch the gas hard once I get the green light, I don't even use the left foot on the brake. It works for me, it is the only way to ensure nice take offs with out spining.
Well, you can but every time you try this you will spin your tires at the track. All I do is punch the gas hard once I get the green light, I don't even use the left foot on the brake. It works for me, it is the only way to ensure nice take offs with out spining.
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Are you doing a burnout before staging? I wasn't able to hit full throttle on my S600 below 40 MPH without doing a burnout to warm up the tires. With a burnout, I could nail the gas from the get-go and it would hook up. That's what got me from high 1.9s to 1.8s...
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Yes, I'm burning tires before, I'm running 26 lbs on the rears and about 40 in the front (at the track).
Your turbos kick in quick, that's why those sweet 1.8 times, if I remember correctly my best 60' is high 1.9s.
Your turbos kick in quick, that's why those sweet 1.8 times, if I remember correctly my best 60' is high 1.9s.
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Hey Treynor..
Did you get my pm?
I was asking you how did your turbo supra feel compared to your E55?
IN a race which one would win?
So was the big Turbo supra engine as bad a street car as claimed? or could it be driven around comfortably too?
Would appreciate yoru comments thanks.
I was asking you how did your turbo supra feel compared to your E55?
IN a race which one would win?
So was the big Turbo supra engine as bad a street car as claimed? or could it be driven around comfortably too?
Would appreciate yoru comments thanks.
