CWW

I bet that 0-150 boils down to the launch. This is what I keep saying, the gally has an advantage off the line. However, it is NOT actually faster. Instead of 0-150, do you think the results would be the same if the test were 50-150?

TMC M5

Look at the time it takes to go from 100mph - 150mph that I listed. The CLS63 takes 13.7 seconds (0-150mph= 23.5 less the 0-100mph time of 9.8) The Gallardo does the same 100-150mph increment in 12.2. This isn't an exact science but 1.5s is a huge differential and completely takes the launch out of the equation. The CLS63 weighs 4,300+lbs.... the AWD isn't great for high speeds but the weight differential is just too much to overcome for the CLS63.

Tom

Mathmik

I'm looking at a 2005 not 2004 I was told to stay away form the 04 from the guys over at the Lambo forums. I have yet found a 05 for under 90K better yet they seem the hover right around 112K to 125K depending on options Under $90K would be nice!

As far as Marcus goes he had a E55 not 63 so i can't comment on his experience. I know the CLS63 I have weighs alittle more then the E63 and E55 so that will make a slight difference. But its more then just the speed for me, Its a good time for me to get my Exotic Toy! And My benz is just not that! ...Now SL65 BS .... I would love But i know I can't afford that unless I leave the wife and sale the kids

Yacht Master

Saw your post and thought you had bought the Lambo.

Make the move and be driving it around this weekend!

Mathmik

I wish it was that easy!

Marcus Frost

Mathmatik,

Thanks for the kudos on the SL65. Now with the VRP825 package I think the V12 Biturbo Benzes will really be in a league of their own. There is a lot more going on that has been kept off the forums due to the fact it's still under development, but let me tell you... it is going to be an amazing setup - not only for the power it makes, but for it's relative simplicity (no standalone ECUs, aftermarket turbo systems, complicated nonsense) and absolute zero detraction from stock driving characteristics. I had a gut feeling the 65s would be capable of something big in the future and it looks like it's becoming the case.

Regarding your car - yes, the CLS is a bit heavier than the E63. I guess I am thinking more E63 because I have seen a few forum members do 116-117 stock in their 63s. The G might be a tough faster than your 63 but remember, Gallardo and CLS is apples to oranges. For what it is, to say the CLS would stay even with a Gallardo is quite a compliment to the CLS.

Regards to price, I've already seen 2007s at $125k - and that's NOT at auction. You may want to wait just a little bit so you don't take too much of a bath on one.

-m

J 2OOI

Mathmik:

Based on your posts I think you should probably go for the Lambo. Orange would not be my color, but if you want the flash, I suppose that would do it. You seem like you are wanting a fun toy not necessarily the fastest car out there, or the most luxurious. For a weekend toy, I think the Lambo would be nice. I'm sure the CLS is great, but not so much as a weekend toy. Check the SL65 as well. Marcus seems to really like his... It's a buyer's market, make sure you get what you want, and don't pay too much. Goodluck.

blackbenzz

Get the lambo and lets go to Georgetown pimpin, I get to take the girls home cuz you are married

cte430

i was in a similiar situation a few years ago. Had my E55 that was my toy as I had a company car. Figured what the hell, might be fun to try a sports car so I bough a 997S; a year later a 997TT. As long as I have a company car I won't be back in a sedan (and as long as I can physically get in and out LOL).

I don't know if it's '05 or '04 but you want one year after for the lambo. I've spent considerable time in both the lambo and F430 and if you can swing it, I thought the F was much better, and is (practically speaking) the only car i'd trade mine for.

And as others have said, the italians are not the fastest thing, but there is more than driving in a straight line.

CWW

But did they actually do two separate tests, one from 0-150 and another from 100-150? Or did they just datalog one 0-150 run, and then extrapolate the 100-150 times from that? Because if that's what they did, then the data is a little skewed...

Most of the car mags are pretty lazy when it comes to testing. The don't use standing starts, they use time-delays, they do one or two runs and use the data for multiple categories, etc. They aren't usually "real-world" results, if you catch my drift...

CWW

OIC, I didn't realize you had narrowed it down to a 2005. Ok then, makes sense. That's not such a bad deal then.

Also, FWIW, I agree complete...I voted in the poll on this thread for you to go with the lambo. The experience will be so much fun, and no benz is comparable to an italian car. They are sublime. I was just talking numbers, I never meant to come across as though I was saying get a benz over a lambo. No way. If it was me, I'd pick the gally in a heartbeat.

Mathmik

LOL That was a good one!

Mathmik

I know you meant good! I'm glad you posted it kept me on my toes with researching. After you informing me on what I have sitting and the garage, I decided to drive it today to the office and man I forgot how fun it gets. I love my benz no doubt but I always wanted a Exotic TOY ( F430/gallardo/carreraGT/GT40)

Marcus Frost

Other posters bring up a good point... it's a real buyers market out there. Given you are in the very fortunate position to buy such a fantastic car like the Gallardo - you really should sample all the other flavors in that price range now. I also have a real soft spot for the Ford GT - I didn't consider one because to me it's not really a car that's nearly as practical as an SL, 997, or Gallardo (yes, I know, a Gallardo isn't that practical either, but it's tolerable) so it was a bit too extreme for me. In your case, given it's a car that will strictly be a toy you enjoy on the weekends, it might fight the bill, too!

E55_GT3wheels

I would do it IF you dont mind paying $6K every 7-10K miles for service and a clutch. Its not just the car price, maintanence on lambos is CRAZY expensive

Addicted2Speed

06 gallardo will be faster since it has about 30hp more and revised gearing. Gallardo SE is even more powerful supposedly (its exhaust and ecu are different than standard 06 from what I've read on lambo forums although officially its supposed to be the same). Here is a video of stock SE vs tuned M5 from a roll.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THWPsB9deEk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFdJt...eature=related

And here is a video of Gallardo SE vs CLS63 from a roll. It absolutely destroys the CLS63:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIkQ5b8biJY

Mathmik

I wish I could afford a F430 because I would choose it over the Gallardo. But the Lambo will do for me

Mathmik

I been looking for that Video. I feel that is what will happen from a roll. I drove the Gallardo for One whole day and it was a blast!!

Mathmik

This one is onlt 9sec clip but its a rolling start

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MOqi...eature=related

HYEPWR

Are you kidding me??

LAMBO!!!!!!

Honestly, who gives a crap if its slower than an AMG? This guy obviously isnt setting up races for money or meeting his crew at "the spot" on friday nights to do runs.

I drive ~30,000 miles a year and I have accidentally run into a "FAST CAR" just 4 times in 20 years. Im including plain corvettes and plain 911's as fast cars. By accidentally run, I mean, meeting on the freeway in such a way as to safely display my power.

So for a guy that drives 7,000miles a year --tops---the chances of him seeing another car as nice as the Lambo is very rare.....and seeing such car in a manner that its 100-150mph comes into play is probably close to nil. The fact that s VRP825 or Sl65BS or Muri LP is faster really doesnt matter--cause you aint running into those cars very often.

What he will get is a car that makes him giggle when he just starts it up....a car that makes you feel like a rockstar everywhere you go. Get the Lambo bro...then "INVEST" $10,000 into Kressing....that is all...

Marcus Frost

Are you insinuating the only reason people buy powerful cars is because they street race? That seems pretty silly...

You live in Toronto, most of us do not. I run into fast cars a lot more often, almost daily.

That depends on where you live...

I hang out with car guys weekly in the summer who all have fast cars, I visit the drag strip, and sometimes I just take my car out and go for a ride because I feel like it. I run into all kinds of cars and like having a lot of power, not even for racing other people, but just because I love to drive, and I love powerful cars - like 99% of people on this forum.

As I mentioned before I've driven many Lambos and considered a Gallardo when I bought my SL65... so I am not speaking from a hypothetical standpoint.

Impressing other people with my car is really not a significant consideration for me - to be clear, I don't mind having people like the car I drive, but in a situation where I have two cars that fit my criteria - the one that impresses people more isn't going to beat out the other on that merit.

A Gallardo is a great car, but it's not an automatic choice, at least not for me. It has great looks, a great exhaust note, and a great driving experience, but that's not necessarily enough to make it a no-brainer. It really depends on what one wants. My SL65 is nowhere near the kind of attention ***** a G is, but I am very comfortable with that - as a matter of fact that is something that helped the SL beat out the 997 and Gallardo. I think this is getting really off topic but the idea that for a guy to question whether or not he should keep his CLS or get a Gallardo isn't as cut and dry as you seem to think it is. In his situation, as a Toy, the Gallardo makes a lot of sense, but I don't think that anyone who picks an AMG over a Gallardo isn't crazy...

-m

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