W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63
Old Jun 17, 2015, 03:10 PM
How-Tos on this Topic
Last edit by: IB Advertising
See related guides and technical advice from our community experts:Browse all: Engine Guides
Print Wikipost

Filter replacement and removal?!?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Mar 12, 2009 | 05:49 AM
  #1  
NSX2NV's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 586
Likes: 2
From: Springfield, Missouri
03' E55 Techtite Grey
Filter replacement and removal?!?

I am getting ready to do a Service D interval on my car. It says I have to change some filters. Other than the regular motor air filters it says I have to change the cabin filter and a charcoal filter. I have read about people removing the charcoal filter. My question is, what should I remove and what should I replace? And what is the difference if I remove?
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2009 | 08:41 AM
  #2  
shardul's Avatar
Former Vendor of MBWorld
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 12,139
Likes: 295
From: Houston
2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
Only the e63 have charcoal filters the e55 don't have them. You can replace the air filters and the cabin filter. The cabin filters are located below the glove box in the passenger footwell area.
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2009 | 09:21 AM
  #3  
jpohl402's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,052
Likes: 2
From: PHX/PIE/OMA ---> Yes, all three
E55 then E63, now back to an E55
On the 63, what is the purpose of charcoal filter ?
What does removing them do ?
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2009 | 09:30 AM
  #4  
prodigymb's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,172
Likes: 3
From: Philly
997TT, C192 GT63, W464 G550, MS Plaid
i think there is also a cabin filter under the hood near the auxillary battery...
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2009 | 10:11 AM
  #5  
shardul's Avatar
Former Vendor of MBWorld
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 12,139
Likes: 295
From: Houston
2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
Originally Posted by prodigymb
i think there is also a cabin filter under the hood near the auxillary battery...
Yes I forgot that one. The ones under the glove box are activated carbon filter for the air in the cabin.
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2009 | 10:27 AM
  #6  
komp55's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,359
Likes: 6
ML550
As far as cabin air filtering goes, you either have the combi filter in the engine compartment (later models), or you have the under the dash filters. You don't have both.
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2009 | 01:47 PM
  #7  
D Bst's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 161
Likes: 5
From: Corona, CA
2004 E55 AMG; 1995 Porsche 993 Cab.
Originally Posted by komp55
As far as cabin air filtering goes, you either have the combi filter in the engine compartment (later models), or you have the under the dash filters. You don't have both.
Not sure if that's a true statement.

My 04 E55 has (two) cabin filters under the dash (2118300818) as well as a single filter located above the aux battery under the hood. (2118300018)

They are all activated Carbon filters.

How do i know? I recently replaced all three.

FWIW- I bought all mine from Autohausaz.com - about $120 IIRC.
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2009 | 01:57 PM
  #8  
komp55's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,359
Likes: 6
ML550
Very strange. Mine's an '05, and when I call up the filter PN in the EPC for the underdash filters, they come up as "not valid on this model" or something to that effect. I'd be very curious to see what comes up if your car's VIN were entered in the EPC.

I wouldn't be surprised if a tech at the dealer stuck a filter in your engine compartment housing not knowing your car had the older under the dash set-up.

How's the actual air flow? I would think it's diminished from what it should be as a result of too many filters.
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2009 | 02:04 PM
  #9  
D Bst's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 161
Likes: 5
From: Corona, CA
2004 E55 AMG; 1995 Porsche 993 Cab.
Airflow is good... cabin cools and heats just fine.
Filters were always there (and I changed what was there myself).

PM coming your way with VIN.
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2009 | 03:11 PM
  #10  
komp55's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,359
Likes: 6
ML550
And I stand corrected based on a little EPC research. Apparently early cars got both the big filter in the engine compartment and the little ones in the passenger compartment. Later models only have the combi filter in the engine compartment.
Reply
Old May 7, 2017 | 07:39 AM
  #11  
SuperChargerE55's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 384
Likes: 13
From: Sweden
E55 AMG V8 Kompressor 2004 E 55 AMG Type: 5,439 cc (5.439 L; 331.9 cu in) Supercharged V8 Powe
Old thr

Originally Posted by D Bst
Not sure if that's a true statement.

My 04 E55 has (two) cabin filters under the dash (2118300818) as well as a single filter located above the aux battery under the hood. (2118300018)

They are all activated Carbon filters.

How do i know? I recently replaced all three.

FWIW- I bought all mine from Autohausaz.com - about $120 IIRC.
Yep so does mine
Reply
Old May 7, 2017 | 08:57 AM
  #12  
LoveMyAMG's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
05 E55 AMG, 05 S2000
I have 05 E55. & I only have the filter above the Aux Battery under the hood.

I took the panel off under the glove box, & other misc pieces and I don't see any filters under the passenger side.

I have a buddy with a non AMG E series, and I know what the filters look like under the glove box cause he has them & we've changed them.

Very odd, anyone else having this issue? i'm confused because I got the 2x inside filter from my local auto parts. Any feedback?
Reply
Old May 8, 2017 | 12:32 PM
  #13  
SuperChargerE55's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 384
Likes: 13
From: Sweden
E55 AMG V8 Kompressor 2004 E 55 AMG Type: 5,439 cc (5.439 L; 331.9 cu in) Supercharged V8 Powe
Strange

Really really stange, but all I can think of it is has to do with year/ country perhaps.
I took mine of again yesterday just to double check I have
1 filter engine bay above small battery
2 filters under glove box
all 3 are charcoal- filters.


So did some digging, models with activated charcoal filters
it seems it has been discontinued and replaced with a combined filter, I did not find anything in WIS about it just looked my 2004 up but I see a lot of questions about this I can imagine is the same for our E55/E63 as for the E500
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w211...-e500-has.html


only I just replaced mine yesterday got 2 new ones matching the old and they are not combo but still Charcoal filters so an a little ??
lol still guessing is the same and this answer our questions why some has it some don't
Reply
Old May 8, 2017 | 01:08 PM
  #14  
Yuille36's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Veteran: Marine Corps
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,015
Likes: 524
From: Alexandria, VA
07 E63 AMG, 10 C63 AMG, 07 E63 Designo, 07 E350, 09 C300, 07 C230
Originally Posted by jpohl402
On the 63, what is the purpose of charcoal filter ?
What does removing them do ?


The charcoal cabin filter helps to eliminate odors, as well as filter out contaminants from the outside. if removed, you will have pure outside air coming inside your vehicle without be filtered, this includes dust, sand, pollen, and even bugs. So don't do it. just replace the filter.
Reply
Old May 9, 2017 | 12:36 PM
  #15  
MACEDON's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,120
Likes: 80
From: Tampa Bay, FL
05 E55, 98 CLK320
Originally Posted by jpohl402
On the 63, what is the purpose of charcoal filter ?
What does removing them do ?
You gain 5hp
Reply
Old May 9, 2017 | 12:47 PM
  #16  
Yuille36's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Veteran: Marine Corps
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,015
Likes: 524
From: Alexandria, VA
07 E63 AMG, 10 C63 AMG, 07 E63 Designo, 07 E350, 09 C300, 07 C230
Originally Posted by MACEDON
You gain 5hp


That is totally incorrect, the charcoal filter are related to the cabin filter, and not the engine air filters. So there is no HP gain.
Reply
Old May 9, 2017 | 01:28 PM
  #17  
Strigoi's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,249
Likes: 257
From: Richmond, CA
2001 E320 Wagon, 2006 LBZ Silverado, 2007 E63 (sold), 2001 E55 (sold)
Originally Posted by Yuille36
That is totally incorrect, the charcoal filter are related to the cabin filter, and not the engine air filters. So there is no HP gain.
Nope. There are gains from doing it. Unless you're talking about different charcoal filters.

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...e-18-rwhp.html
Reply
Old May 9, 2017 | 02:29 PM
  #18  
Yuille36's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Veteran: Marine Corps
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,015
Likes: 524
From: Alexandria, VA
07 E63 AMG, 10 C63 AMG, 07 E63 Designo, 07 E350, 09 C300, 07 C230
I haven't heard of any charcoal engine filters, only the cabin filters.
Reply
Old May 9, 2017 | 02:31 PM
  #19  
Yuille36's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Veteran: Marine Corps
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,015
Likes: 524
From: Alexandria, VA
07 E63 AMG, 10 C63 AMG, 07 E63 Designo, 07 E350, 09 C300, 07 C230
My apologies Macedon and Strigoi, you are absolutely correct there are charcoal liner inside of the airboxes. I completely forgot all about those.
Reply
Old May 9, 2017 | 03:50 PM
  #20  
Strigoi's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,249
Likes: 257
From: Richmond, CA
2001 E320 Wagon, 2006 LBZ Silverado, 2007 E63 (sold), 2001 E55 (sold)
Originally Posted by Yuille36
My apologies Macedon and Strigoi, you are absolutely correct there are charcoal liner inside of the airboxes. I completely forgot all about those.
I just found about them the other day. I finally have some free time after work today and am planning on pulling them out of mine.
Reply
Old May 10, 2017 | 09:15 AM
  #21  
Yuille36's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Veteran: Marine Corps
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,015
Likes: 524
From: Alexandria, VA
07 E63 AMG, 10 C63 AMG, 07 E63 Designo, 07 E350, 09 C300, 07 C230
I run a Carbonio CF air intake, and they do not have the charcoal filter in them. They supposedly have a 18-21 HP gain, and 14-18 lbs/ft. torque increase. Well, I really can't feel it from the seat of my pants. But the car has more giddy up
Reply
Old May 10, 2017 | 09:39 AM
  #22  
Yuille36's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Veteran: Marine Corps
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,015
Likes: 524
From: Alexandria, VA
07 E63 AMG, 10 C63 AMG, 07 E63 Designo, 07 E350, 09 C300, 07 C230



This thing is beautiful, and expensive
Reply
Old May 10, 2017 | 12:06 PM
  #23  
skylinrcr01's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 287
Likes: 29
From: Orange County, Ca
2004 E55, Triumph Speed Triple
Originally Posted by Yuille36
I haven't heard of any charcoal engine filters, only the cabin filters.
Wouldn't want stinky air going in to the engine now, would we?
Reply
Old May 10, 2017 | 01:49 PM
  #24  
MACEDON's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,120
Likes: 80
From: Tampa Bay, FL
05 E55, 98 CLK320
Originally Posted by Yuille36
That is totally incorrect, the charcoal filter are related to the cabin filter, and not the engine air filters. So there is no HP gain.
I was joking lmao
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2017 | 11:41 PM
  #25  
tw2's Avatar
tw2
MBWorld Fanatic!
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,428
Likes: 288
From: New Zealand
Sorry to bring this back up again. I have a 2005. Local parts person has sold me a particulate filter (white, not charcoal activated) for the engine compartment. Car now smells of exhaust in traffic. He claims there is are two charcoal ones under the dash. Pelican parts claim I have the single engine bay combined (particulate and charcoal) filter and no under dash one. I know the original one I pulled out was the charcoal activated model by micronair (oem supplier to MB).

When did the change happen, it seems to be from 2004 to 2005 they went from 3 filters to the single engine bay combination filter. Is this correct?

I don't like pulling that plastic cover under the dash, always a pain to get back in correctly but where under that would the filters be located? I didn't notice anything obvious last time I had it off for head unit install. Thanks for the help.
Reply


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:02 AM.