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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 12:39 PM
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Actually, I just looked at my spreadsheet (I'm traveling) and my belt tensioner was replaced on July 30, 2008 when I had 34K miles. As of today, I have slightly over 52K miles...with no squeal.
That's one of the things I had replaced. And after the work was done, it was very quiet on start up for a couple thousand miles.

It's not a squeal on mine. It's a persistent whistling/chirping for the first few minutes. Once warm, it goes away, same as before. I'll take it in again in the spring for them to try again. Right now she's in storage.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 12:41 PM
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Mine has not come back. You replaced ALL of your pulleys? Did you use a scope to make sure you found out where the noise was coming from?

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I assume the dealer did. It was under warranty. To be honest though, the noise with the hood up was VERY localized. It was very easy to hear where it was coming from. Top right front of the motor. And that pulley and tensioner along with a new belt were part of their work.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeevo
watching the video it sounds like a pulley. they have something called belt dressing. for squeaky belts , better than carb cleaner. spray the belt lightly if it quits then its a belt. this stuff does last a while on the belt but it will return. if no change in sound then likely pulley , common is the tension pulley as others have mentioned. keep us updated. I to would be curious of the cost.
I think the belt tensioner pulley replacement is around $300 or so doing it with a local guy. I'll have to check my work order how much it would have been at the dealer.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 05:30 PM
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I have had all my pulley's and belts replaced about 5k ago. Now she squeaks. I'm pretty sure its just the belts.....
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JustPete
That's one of the things I had replaced. And after the work was done, it was very quiet on start up for a couple thousand miles.

It's not a squeal on mine. It's a persistent whistling/chirping for the first few minutes. Once warm, it goes away, same as before. I'll take it in again in the spring for them to try again. Right now she's in storage.
The fix I did for the idler pulley was to get a new one, take the "plate" from the old one that is used to center the idler with the boss on the motor block, and then have the plates on both sides (motor and bolt head side). This keeps it centered better. Maybe it is supposed to have two and a technician lost one (??), but if you look at the setup it is a pretty poor design on Mercedes part as to how the idler is to stay centered. I also stuffed rubber washers between the sleave and the bolt to help prevent the sleave from slipping against the motor block.

The problem was that the sleave was slipping against the boss on the block and the centering plate. The dead giveaway is to remove the bolt and see if the sleave and centering plate have shiny wear marks from moving around. The movement is what was causing all the noise.

Fresh belts would temporarily fix the problem, that changes the load on the idler and how freely the pulley is moving around the sleave. But, the sound would eventually come back.

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Old May 17, 2010 | 12:30 PM
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Hi, my 2009 C350 started making this noise the day i got it serviced. Its a whistling/chirping noise, comes on on the first start of the day or when the car is cold, lasts about 8 minutes. Very annoying but then disappears after the first 8 minutes. took my car to the dealers but since the noise wasnt there they couldnt do anything about it, gave a basic look at the engine and said everything is fine, which ofcourse it isint.

Any one have any ideas what this noise could be. My car has done around 22000 miles on it and had no problem till this crap. here is the link below to the sound i recorded from my cell. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUzdaMoLSb8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cr_iHFMj1U
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Old May 17, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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To add - I had a similar sound, and also check the belt tension itself. Should be pretty solidly on there, I think deflection is less that 10 mil. My tensioner was shot causing squeal and a rattle, and a scary loose belt. I had a local Benz guy do it for about 500 total with new belts. Chirps are normal from supercharger clutch, and sound exactly like a belt squeak...
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Old May 17, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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I am sorry, but i am unfortunately a doc and have no idea about the super charger or anything you wrote ....... are you telling me the dealers wont be able to fix it as they cannot hear it. i plan to drop my car at the dealers tomorrow. with the hope they can hear it in the morning when they start. the problem is the sounds only lasts around 8 mins and after that it disappear. Did your sound last this long as well ? and what did you get changed.

Sorry for asking you to repeat yourself in lay mans english
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Old May 17, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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Hey no worries - the supercharger is a big pump-like device that sits on top of the engine, to pressurize air as it enters into the engine. It is belt driven (unlike a turbocharger which is exhaust driven). So, in our case, it has a clutch on it that "activates" when you step on the gas, putting load on the belt, causing a squeak-like chirp.

My particular problem was within the tensioner - the device that puts enough tension on the belt to keep things moving - supercharger, alternator, steering, etc. Loose tensioner in my case caused a rattle (from worn bearings) and a constant squeak until it was warmed up (things expand and change when hot). Yes, my dealer said that "nothing was wrong" too - probably best for them to keep it overnight and check when cold. My tensioner and belts were replaced.

Also, ask this community for dealers in your area - potentially find one that is better than another. Or even a local shop that specializes...
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Old May 17, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by schobes
Hey no worries - the supercharger is a big pump-like device that sits on top of the engine, to pressurize air as it enters into the engine. It is belt driven (unlike a turbocharger which is exhaust driven). So, in our case, it has a clutch on it that "activates" when you step on the gas, putting load on the belt, causing a squeak-like chirp.

My particular problem was within the tensioner - the device that puts enough tension on the belt to keep things moving - supercharger, alternator, steering, etc. Loose tensioner in my case caused a rattle (from worn bearings) and a constant squeak until it was warmed up (things expand and change when hot). Yes, my dealer said that "nothing was wrong" too - probably best for them to keep it overnight and check when cold. My tensioner and belts were replaced.

Also, ask this community for dealers in your area - potentially find one that is better than another. Or even a local shop that specializes...
Thanks Schobes. I hope that the dealer can get it fixed. The sound just started to come suddenly after an oil change and servicing.

Did you listen to the sound i put on youtube ? did yours sound the same.....

Thanks again tho. very kind of you to reply twice and in detail.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 05:25 PM
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Well we have two very different engines as well - the C350 is a V6 and the E55 is a V8. So, sounds are not the same either. Yours could very well be something easy...also, check the other boards too, there might be some more info out there...
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Old May 17, 2010 | 05:28 PM
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Very True, Thanks for all your input. It will be resolved soon, i am sure, otherwise there is always the option to call it a lemon :@)

Thanks again
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 01:07 PM
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Hello all,

I recently started to get a squeaky sound from the engine bay, so i got smart and decided to take off the SC belt to see if it was the tensioner or the idler pulley and when i took off the belt it stopped making the noise. I suspect its the idler pulley because it has some play in it, is this usualy the issue?
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 09:23 AM
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murtaxac350 did you ever get your issue resolved? i have the SAME issue and they never seem to hear it when i leave the car with the dealer. they have already changed the idler pulley and belt
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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I've got that damn squeak going on. Was going to take it in this week but haven't had the time.
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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Mine does that too but it's the belt. Getting it replaced next week. If you take a candle and lightly touch it to the underside of the belt with the engine running, to lightly coat it, and it stops the noise then I'm told it's the belt. I did it to mine and it stopped it for several weeks.
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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As someone else pointed out, if it only happens when cold, and you spray either belt dressing or brake cleaner on the belt and the noise goes away temporarily, it is the belt. I bought a new belt for $6.xx and a new blower belt, no noise. Could also be a weak tensioner as many of these cars are getting up in the miles. If once you spray on the belt, the noise does not change significantly, it is more than likely a bearing.
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by c350lady
murtaxac350 did you ever get your issue resolved? i have the SAME issue and they never seem to hear it when i leave the car with the dealer. they have already changed the idler pulley and belt
My cars sound disappeared after i took my car to the dealers, even tho they said they did nothing and had asked me to leave the car with them, which i was going to do the next day, but wen i came home the sound never did come back. I was reading in one of the forums that this one guy also had similar squeek after an oil change (like me) and that his cars noise too disapeared after a few day ( again like me)

Did u get it serviced as well ?

did u look at the videos i posted, does ur sound the same ..... perhaps waiting it out a few days may help, i know the sound is horrible and embarrassing.
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Old Oct 11, 2013 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by E55Bullet
I have had all my pulley's and belts replaced about 5k ago. Now she squeaks. I'm pretty sure its just the belts.....
I had the same noise on my 06 C55. So is it really just the belt? Wich belt? and what kind of belt spray you use on it?
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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 12:31 PM
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Squeaking engine noise on ML 350

I also have the same problem. Mercedes Benz ML 350 2006. I bought the car and i noticed the squeaking sound the next day. I have been going to Mercedes Benz of Reno Nevada for two months and I cant get help. (bcz the car was under warranty.... they have been delaying for the warranty to run out which did on 24th of Dec.) Am going back to pick the same issue with them because it started when the car had warranty and they even attempted many times to fix it.
the noise can be heard from this videos

Am suspecting the pulleys . I will post updated after solving the problem

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Originally Posted by MURTAZAC350
Hi, my 2009 C350 started making this noise the day i got it serviced. Its a whistling/chirping noise, comes on on the first start of the day or when the car is cold, lasts about 8 minutes. Very annoying but then disappears after the first 8 minutes. took my car to the dealers but since the noise wasnt there they couldnt do anything about it, gave a basic look at the engine and said everything is fine, which ofcourse it isint.

Any one have any ideas what this noise could be. My car has done around 22000 miles on it and had no problem till this crap. here is the link below to the sound i recorded from my cell. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUzdaMoLSb8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cr_iHFMj1U
did you figure out what it was?
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Old Jul 7, 2022 | 02:54 AM
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did you figure out what it was?

i have same model m272 engine. In my car pulley number 5 was worn out i replaced it and morning start noise disappeared. Also u cant tell if pulley was bad without removing and close inspection of it.
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