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4300k HID foglights fade to a 3000Kish/halogen color in stock foglight housings. Why?

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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 10:21 PM
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4300k HID foglights fade to a 3000Kish/halogen color in stock foglight housings. Why?

So I ordered a 4300k HID kit and installed it in the stock foglight housings. Relatively simple. I figure it should be a close enough match for the 5000K D2S bulbs I just got in the mail today.

Well, I popped them in, and the D2S bulbs look very similar to the 6000K bulbs I had before (but that's another story) rather than closer to 4300K. Anyway, lets see what the fogs look like.

When I first turn the fogs on, they're nice and crisply white! Woohoo, everything matches!



Wait a minute... why are they changing color? What on earth?



Well that's great. They went back to looking like stock! Or at least a 3500K-ish temperature.

Why did this happen? Is it always going to happen? I've left them on for 15 minutes or so and it doesn't look like the temp is going to change. Do I need to let them "burn-in" longer? The color is perfect right when I turn them on, before they've "warmed up" for a few seconds, but then they fade into this yellowy halogen-looking bulb.

Is it because of the reflector dish inside of the foglight housing? Doesn't seem like that should affect it....

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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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also, holy ****. I just noticed, if you look up where my dome light is, it looks like I have the "beast eyes" mod, except in the windshield, and in white!

I should change that light out for a red one.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Nait Sirhc
Why did this happen? Is it always going to happen? I've left them on for 15 minutes or so and it doesn't look like the temp is going to change. Do I need to let them "burn-in" longer? The color is perfect right when I turn them on, before they've "warmed up" for a few seconds, but then they fade into this yellowy halogen-looking bulb.

Is it because of the reflector dish inside of the foglight housing? Doesn't seem like that should affect it....
No to all your questions, It is bad / low quality bulbs... Buy some phillips ultinons 6000k for your low beams if you want great color or phillips 4300k these are the best bulbs on planet earth... Get some new 4300k bulbs or a different hid kit for the fogs. It looks like they sent you 3000k bulbs though, when I turn my 3000k fogs on they turn really yellow in like five seconds.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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All I wanted to have was super-crisp white for the lows (I tried 6000K and they were too blue, made it hard to see at night, but my OEM bulbs had a very slight pinkish hue when you looked at the projector). I have LEDs for the city lights (not in the above pics) and they are completely white, no tinge of any color. So it's difficult to find bulbs that match.

4300K fogs (if thats what those really are) are really, really, really ****in' yellow. I'm going to put a 4300K OEM low bulb back in my low beam and take a picture comparing the two.

The company that sent me the kit had this to say in response:

Thank you for your pictures.
Our professional have checked the pictures and he said it's normal color for 4300k.
Here is the standard color from 4300K to 12000K
http://www.vvme.com/modern/pic_colortemps.jpg
Any questions, please feel free to let us know.

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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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LMAO. I sent them a pic of what their "comparison" chart looks like, on my picture.



What do YOU guys think?

I'm wondering if I should just send these "4300K" bulbs back and get 3000Ks, and give up the idea of having fogs+lows+citylights all match. The resistors continually give me grief, whether one of the LED lights won't light up all the way, or I get a "driving lamp out" error message, etc.
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