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Old 07-14-2009, 02:33 AM
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huh we can put that to rest now. stock e55 IS faster then a stock c63.
Agree 100%
Old 07-14-2009, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mthis
huh we can put that to rest now. stock e55 IS faster then a stock c63.
It's definetly a close race but the 55 is a little quicker and this thread should basically be the answer to anyone's questions regarding the 2 cars. If you have a E55 get a CM30 pump! I wish I can have a rematch with that dam modded 335i that beat me a few months ago! He doesn't have it anymore.
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I just want to point out when I raced the stock C63 we were doing tripal digits and slammed on the brakes as we were coming to the light. We were SIDE BY SIDE sliding down on a 2 lane road with little room on the shoulder and there was a JEEP in my lane and I WAS GOING TO SMASH right into him but the C63 driver moved onto the shoulder to give me room to get on his lane to avoid contact. If it wasn't for him doing that I would be in the hospital right now with a totaled car and maybe GOD FOR BID sum1 else injured on the road. Perfect example how RACING is DANGEROUS man. Every1 be CAREFUL.
I'm off to bed fellaz.
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Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04
I just want to point out when I raced the stock C63 we were doing tripal digits and slammed on the brakes as we were coming to the light. We were SIDE BY SIDE sliding down on a 2 lane road with little room on the shoulder and there was a JEEP in my lane and I WAS GOING TO SMASH right into him but the C63 driver moved onto the shoulder to give me room to get on his lane to avoid contact. If it wasn't for him doing that I would be in the hospital right now with a totaled car and maybe GOD FOR BID sum1 else injured on the road. Perfect example how RACING is DANGEROUS man. Every1 be CAREFUL.
I'm off to bed fellaz.
you rite about that you should also check you breaks b/c i saw tonight that you were having a hard time stoping. or is that normal?
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Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04
I just want to point out when I raced the stock C63 we were doing tripal digits and slammed on the brakes as we were coming to the light. We were SIDE BY SIDE sliding down on a 2 lane road with little room on the shoulder and there was a JEEP in my lane and I WAS GOING TO SMASH right into him but the C63 driver moved onto the shoulder to give me room to get on his lane to avoid contact. If it wasn't for him doing that I would be in the hospital right now with a totaled car and maybe GOD FOR BID sum1 else injured on the road. Perfect example how RACING is DANGEROUS man. Every1 be CAREFUL.
I'm off to bed fellaz.
Be Careful, I think someone from this forum is serving time due to killing someone in a street race.
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Glad u guys had fun.

Just to clear things up on the pump, cm30 was hyped up so much because the old Bosch pump on the first gen 55k failed alot. It was a replacment that worked.

The new bosch pump is just as good as the cm30, perhaps better as it is designed for this application. Both have been flow tested and well... wasn't it determined that they are the same?

so when u say omg that pump made a huge differance, yes it did..on a car with a pump that was failing.

bottem line, the updated pump works more then fine.

drive safe
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Originally Posted by Zod
Glad u guys had fun.

Just to clear things up on the pump, cm30 was hyped up so much because the old Bosch pump on the first gen 55k failed alot. It was a replacment that worked.

The new bosch pump is just as good as the cm30, perhaps better as it is designed for this application. Both have been flow tested and well... wasn't it determined that they are the same?

so when u say omg that pump made a huge differance, yes it did..on a car with a pump that was failing.

bottem line, the updated pump works more then fine.
exactly what i was getting at
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Originally Posted by Zod
Glad u guys had fun.

Just to clear things up on the pump, cm30 was hyped up so much because the old Bosch pump on the first gen 55k failed alot. It was a replacment that worked.

The new bosch pump is just as good as the cm30, perhaps better as it is designed for this application. Both have been flow tested and well... wasn't it determined that they are the same?

so when u say omg that pump made a huge differance, yes it did..on a car with a pump that was failing.

bottem line, the updated pump works more then fine.

drive safe
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huh we can put that to rest now. stock e55 IS faster then a stock c63.
So much for you stomping m6's, m5's and other cars that are way out of your league....
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i'm curious if the stock C63 was white? i saw a white one at englishtown - guy in his 20s. that was my very first time out with the e55 when i just bought and it had a bad pump, he kept wanting to line up with me. i beat it by a 10th trapping at 109 (SC shut off).
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///M5 Beast
Originally Posted by mthis
thanks man next time you can drive it have all the fun you want.
A ride in it would be more than enough.
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///M5 Beast
Originally Posted by itsmeek
So much for you stomping m6's, m5's and other cars that are way out of your league....
The C63 would take out a M5/M6 without a problem 0-110mph..TQ FTW. Its after those speeds the M5's high rev limit and gearing take over. So unless your racing into 110mph+ speeds, the C63 pretty much can hold its own aganist them.
Even i have began to walk a M5 up to 100mph, ask E55AMGGG04 he was in the car with me.
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So much for you stomping m6's, m5's and other cars that are way out of your league....
i have the same tune from when i aboused m5 and m6. so
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Originally Posted by prodigymb
i'm curious if the stock C63 was white? i saw a white one at englishtown - guy in his 20s. that was my very first time out with the e55 when i just bought and it had a bad pump, he kept wanting to line up with me. i beat it by a 10th trapping at 109 (SC shut off).
this white one never been to etown. i have another friend that has that might of been him.
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04 w211 E55
Originally Posted by mthis
you rite about that you should also check you breaks b/c i saw tonight that you were having a hard time stoping. or is that normal?
I was abusing my brakes when I was racing the Stock C63 and then racing you 2 hours later. I changed my brake pads to the akebono ceramic pads so I don't know why I wasn't stopping as well. I think it might be time for some new rotors.
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Originally Posted by itsmeek
So much for you stomping m6's, m5's and other cars that are way out of your league....
I have raced both M5's and M6's and beat them everytime at low speeds. I did race a m6 on a roll though starting 60mph but I was on the wrong gear and had the failing pump, I lost about 6-7 car lengths to 160.
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Originally Posted by Brisk335
Even i have began to walk a M5 up to 100mph, ask E55AMGGG04 he was in the car with me.
Just out of curiosity, did you do this against an E39 or E60? Also were you already stage 3 at that time?
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Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04
I have raced both M5's and M6's and beat them everytime at low speeds. I did race a m6 on a roll though starting 60mph but I was on the wrong gear and had the failing pump, I lost about 6-7 car lengths to 160.
Im tellin u. U can beat m5's and m6's If I can then u can 100%. Try with the new pump. If u want I got a m5 also I can run.

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Just out of curiosity, did you do this against an E39 or E60? Also were you already stage 3 at that time?
E60 M5, both mine and his had two passengers, and yes i was on pump gas with my stage 3 tune.

W/out euro launch control on the US models (at least this gives it a chance), No M5 should be racing from stop lights or slow rolls.

The amount of tq the C63 and E55 are putting out for there respected weights, it only makes sense.

I know E55AMGGG04 has already taken out two M5's.
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E60 M5, both mine and his had two passengers, and yes i was on pump gas with my stage 3 tune.

W/out euro launch control on the US models (at least this gives it a chance), No M5 should be racing from stop lights or slow rolls.

The amount of tq the C63 and E55 are putting out for there respected weights, it only makes sense.

I know E55AMGGG04 has already taken out two M5's.
Sounds good. It's hard to want an M3, 5, or 6 if a 335 with a relatively "affordable" JB3 tune can take them in daily driving. It's not every day that we get to race above 110mph anyway. It's also good to see how every car mentioned in this thread stacks up.
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Damn I missed this! Sorry bro came late out of work, super late. I am glad you guys had fun and best of all got it on camera.
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Damn I missed this! Sorry bro came late out of work, super late. I am glad you guys had fun and best of all got it on camera.
I have a few more videos vs the stock C63 that I still have to post. It was definetly fun. There was a good turn out to come watch the runs lol. I'm going to try to find my digital CD crap to install on my laptop so I can upload videos.
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04 w211 E55
Originally Posted by cahiil55k
Sounds good. It's hard to want an M3, 5, or 6 if a 335 with a relatively "affordable" JB3 tune can take them in daily driving. It's not every day that we get to race above 110mph anyway. It's also good to see how every car mentioned in this thread stacks up.
It's hard for many people to believe that the 335i with these tunes is so DAM FAST but it is. I have been in brisk 335 and it pulls like a monster. He was pulling on a E60 M5, I was in the passanger seat on a very low roll start.
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04 w211 E55
Originally Posted by mthis
Im tellin u. U can beat m5's and m6's If I can then u can 100%. Try with the new pump. If u want I got a m5 also I can run.
I'm going to ask the guy I ran last time to run me again with the M6 just because I know I had a failing pump and I never shifted into gear. I'm 100% if I start at 60 he will beat me again but not as bad as last time. I never ran a M5 past 120 so thats why I havnt lost to one yet lol.


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