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Old 07-23-2009 | 11:17 PM
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Throttle Body Y Pipe, maybe this will help

Not sure if this is what you guys are looking for, but maybe it will help





Old 07-24-2009 | 05:55 AM
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Wow

My mind can only comprehend one thing and that this is a CLK DTM Y pipe, which is not even in the list of parts at the local dealer!!
Emmmmmmmm can u test fit to see if it mates to the Air box?!?!

Great Find!!!!

also does this mean the DTM TB is larger then 82mm !!

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Old 07-24-2009 | 08:13 AM
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Nice! what are the chances that this will fit the stock TB or is it only for the80-82mm?
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Old 07-24-2009 | 10:28 AM
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Nice! Is that measurement taken at the narrowest point after the y? What are the inlet sizes? I still need to make a bigger maf housing anyway but you factory 55k guys dont need to. Hmmm, will the factory airboxes flow more or a single 3.5" pipe with a cone filter
Old 07-24-2009 | 11:01 AM
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Nice! Is that measurement taken at the narrowest point after the y? What are the inlet sizes? I still need to make a bigger maf housing anyway but you factory 55k guys dont need to. Hmmm, will the factory airboxes flow more or a single 3.5" pipe with a cone filter
yes, this was taken at the O ring and I tried not to compress it. I'd look into the Audi S4 V8 from 2005's MAF or maybe an SRT8 and see if those help, From a passing glance the SRT8 looks like a bosch TB too.

If you run a cone style filter use a long one. When I first did my intake we had a short AEM filter on it and my A/F was all jacked up. Switched to a longer cone filter and the problem was solved.

crappy A/F with this filter


good A/F with this one


and this one,
Old 07-24-2009 | 11:10 AM
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Wow

My mind can only comprehend one thing and that this is a CLK DTM Y pipe, which is not even in the list of parts at the local dealer!!
Emmmmmmmm can u test fit to see if it mates to the Air box?!?!

Great Find!!!!

also does this mean the DTM TB is larger then 82mm !!

The only reason we would have this kicking around the shop would be that someone switched to a Renntech airbox. My guess is this is off a 2008 SL55.
Old 07-24-2009 | 12:11 PM
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The only reason we would have this kicking around the shop would be that someone switched to a Renntech airbox. My guess is this is off a 2008 SL55.
can't be. The SL upgraded to the 80mm tb in 2007, when they advertised HP at 530

can u see which car that part belongs to?
unless from 2007 to 2008 they upgraded again
very interested in finding out
Old 07-24-2009 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by hooleyboy
yes, this was taken at the O ring and I tried not to compress it. I'd look into the Audi S4 V8 from 2005's MAF or maybe an SRT8 and see if those help, From a passing glance the SRT8 looks like a bosch TB too.

If you run a cone style filter use a long one. When I first did my intake we had a short AEM filter on it and my A/F was all jacked up. Switched to a longer cone filter and the problem was solved.
Very interesting! Thanks I already moved the MAF to fit the custom intake pipe so its 3.5" now but if I was to go back to the ram air style with stock airboxes I would need to relocate MAF back down post y. I dunno which setup would flow better, the stock airboxes definitely look better though. My current filter is about the size of the AEM one you posted lol. Maybe I should dyno with the filter completely off with a mesh screen in place to see what happens, maybe run it at the track like that
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Originally Posted by Zod
can't be. The SL upgraded to the 80mm tb in 2007, when they advertised HP at 530

can u see which car that part belongs to?
unless from 2007 to 2008 they upgraded again
very interested in finding out
nope. there were SL55s with 80mm tbs for MY06 produced as early as Feb 05
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hooleyboy,

Let me first say - thank you. Whether or not this leads to anything significant is really besides the point. Contributing this kind of knowledge freely to the members of the forum instead of spending time figuring out ways to hide it from them and make money off of it I think reflects the integrity and genuine enthusiasm for this community. My hats off to you, I wish we had more sponsors like you.

With that said - this part # is from an SL55. According to EPC, it's NOT from an '08+ SL55, rather it's for the SL55s built up to 05/31/2002 - very, very early models. This is a very, very rare part and is likely found more on the European cars and only a very, very select few early '03 SL55s. If anyone else has access to EPC please feel free to correct my interpretation of the footnotes.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Frost
With that said - this part # is from an SL55. According to EPC, it's NOT from an '08+ SL55, rather it's for the SL55s built up to 05/31/2002 - very, very early models. This is a very, very rare part and is likely found more on the European cars and only a very, very select few early '03 SL55s. If anyone else has access to EPC please feel free to correct my interpretation of the footnotes.

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that's how i understood the EPC footnotes too.

it looks like the part was superceded by A113 094 01 03 in July 2005. in EPC that part number is listed for same engine as this AMG 80mm TB - 113 141 05 25 (which is actually what i have on my car now).

when i was ordering my tb from the dealer i had to buy the entire assembly with side tubes under part number 80mm Y-Pipe with tubes - 113 090 03 29 which included the 113 094 01 03 piece

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Old 07-24-2009 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by prodigymb
that's how i understood the EPC footnotes too.

it looks like the part was superceded by A113 094 01 03 in July 2005. in EPC that part number is listed for same engine as this AMG 80mm TB - 113 141 05 25 (which is actually what i have on my car now).

when i was ordering my tb from the dealer i had to buy the entire assembly with side tubes under part number 80mm Y-Pipe with tubes - 113 090 03 29 which included the 113 094 01 03 piece
You are right on. The entire assembly with this particular connector hooleyboy showed us is 113 090 01 29 and it's around $120. I don't think you can buy that one piece separately, you have to buy the assembly.

Looking into this further, it looks like the matching TB is part # A1371410125 ? Is that what you found? It looks like this TB is quite common, but was only found on 55s up to 2002. It says it was replaced by A1131410525, which I can't find more info on... the first part # is around $600 but the second one is around $930.

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hooleyboy,

Let me first say - thank you. Whether or not this leads to anything significant is really besides the point. Contributing this kind of knowledge freely to the members of the forum instead of spending time figuring out ways to hide it from them and make money off of it I think reflects the integrity and genuine enthusiasm for this community. My hats off to you, I wish we had more sponsors like you.

With that said - this part # is from an SL55. According to EPC, it's NOT from an '08+ SL55, rather it's for the SL55s built up to 05/31/2002 - very, very early models. This is a very, very rare part and is likely found more on the European cars and only a very, very select few early '03 SL55s. If anyone else has access to EPC please feel free to correct my interpretation of the footnotes.

-m
I've seen parts on cars with part numbers grinded off so people wouldnt know what its from. If less time was spend trying to hide OEM parts and more time was spent on real R&D not just "R" it would be better for all.


and an off topic update: My E55/CLS55 headers should have a dyno run today on a RENNtech stage 6 (I think) E55.
Old 08-31-2009 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus Frost
You are right on. The entire assembly with this particular connector hooleyboy showed us is 113 090 01 29 and it's around $120. I don't think you can buy that one piece separately, you have to buy the assembly.

Looking into this further, it looks like the matching TB is part # A1371410125 ? Is that what you found? It looks like this TB is quite common, but was only found on 55s up to 2002. It says it was replaced by A1131410525, which I can't find more info on... the first part # is around $600 but the second one is around $930.

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Unfortunately this is incorrect. I ordered p/n 113 090 01 29 in order to get the y-pipe hooleyboy posted and guess what? The ypipe that came with it was the same as stock one I had before p/n 113 094 01 03. Btw, list price was $170, not $120. When I asked the dealer to look up p/n 113 094 00 03 they said the part number is not available anywhere, even Germany!!! Anyone know how to get p/n 113 094 00 03? I don't mind buying the whole assembly. Any help would be much appreciated.
Old 08-31-2009 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Unfortunately this is incorrect. I ordered p/n 113 090 01 29 in order to get the y-pipe hooleyboy posted and guess what? The ypipe that came with it was the same as stock one I had before p/n 113 094 01 03. Btw, list price was $170, not $120. When I asked the dealer to look up p/n 113 094 00 03 they said the part number is not available anywhere, even Germany!!! Anyone know how to get p/n 113 094 00 03? I don't mind buying the whole assembly. Any help would be much appreciated.


113 094 00 03 is simply the Ypipe for the 80mm TB ( just consider about 2and half millimeters of metal thickness and you get that 85,..
Further, no DTM's HWA marks on that thing ..)


I have it installed in my car and it came with the whole assembly number 1130900329 (unfortunately, must say, .. because the rubber hoses are same as our stock)

therefore, nothing to wonder about
.. hope this is not a great delusion for you



ps: for fitting an ID 82-83mm TB, you would need at least an 88mm Y-pipe.


pps: don't forget to tell your part's guy that he is simply stupid !

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Old 08-31-2009 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dyno
113 094 00 03 is simply the Ypipe for the 80mm TB ( just consider about 2and half millimeters of metal thickness and you get that 85,..
Further, no DTM's HWA marks on that thing ..)


I have it installed in my car and it came with the whole assembly number 1130900329 (unfortunately, must say, .. because the rubber hoses are same as our stock)

therefore, nothing to wonder about
.. hope this is not a great delusion for you



ps: for fitting an ID 82-83mm TB, you would need at least an 88mm Y-pipe.


pps: don't forget to tell your part's guy that he is simply stupid !
Thanks for the info, time to make another trip out to the dealer. I can make it work

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