E63 performance upgrades
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I too looked into modding my 63. After I found out what it cost and how little I would gain I decided to keep it stock. If I want to mod a car for speed I will just buy another car that makes a better platform for modding. I figure it would be like 8-12k$ to get like 70 or so HP out of this car. For that price on a vette you would get like 700+hp.
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Mercedes Benz parts are too expensive, so if you want a Mercedes hot rod, take the approach Bob Norwood took with his 288 GTO. (About ten years ago, he was putting 1,200 hp Testarossa on the street, but that was the expensive way to go.) Replace the stock engine with a big-block Chevy of at least 502 c.i., supercharger (or a pair of turbo-superchargers), etc. That should get you to at least 1,000 hp on the street. It will probably require a new transmission and rear end, but that's the price of speed. How fast do you want to go? The answer is determined by your budget.
are there any good low cost or "most" bang for the buck upgrades to do for engine performance?
I have see the underdrive pulley set up and programming from Evosport for over 2k, (kinda pricey for the little power)
Are there air intakes or perhaps the K&N filter setup that make power? I know these alone wont make all the difference but if there are a few smaller things to do that can add up or free up some restricted power then I'd like to hear about them.
I understood the E63 didn't have my to tune it with versus the E55 but since you folks have been here longer than me I was hoping to hear about some of the fun upgrades you have done.
I have see the underdrive pulley set up and programming from Evosport for over 2k, (kinda pricey for the little power)
Are there air intakes or perhaps the K&N filter setup that make power? I know these alone wont make all the difference but if there are a few smaller things to do that can add up or free up some restricted power then I'd like to hear about them.
I understood the E63 didn't have my to tune it with versus the E55 but since you folks have been here longer than me I was hoping to hear about some of the fun upgrades you have done.
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I too looked into modding my 63. After I found out what it cost and how little I would gain I decided to keep it stock. If I want to mod a car for speed I will just buy another car that makes a better platform for modding. I figure it would be like 8-12k$ to get like 70 or so HP out of this car. For that price on a vette you would get like 700+hp.
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Mercedes makes great sedans, but they do not lend themselves to tweaking -- and certainly not to reasonable cost tweaking.
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+1. I think Mercedes got this car right out of the box.
For what it's worth, I re-installed my charcoal filters after a couple of weeks; I have found that low rpm part throttle response and drivability is better with them in. There is a very slight drop in peak power at the top of the RPM scale, but with new OEM Mann air filters, not enough make a lot of difference in the real world. I'm leaving the charcoals in.
Enjoy your car, ultimately all that matters is that it is set up and performing to your liking, whether you choose to mod or leave it stock.
For what it's worth, I re-installed my charcoal filters after a couple of weeks; I have found that low rpm part throttle response and drivability is better with them in. There is a very slight drop in peak power at the top of the RPM scale, but with new OEM Mann air filters, not enough make a lot of difference in the real world. I'm leaving the charcoals in.
Enjoy your car, ultimately all that matters is that it is set up and performing to your liking, whether you choose to mod or leave it stock.
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I added the K&N and took out the charcoal filter and it all feels the same to me. I'm sure some dyno may see the difference and of course I wasn't expecting to feel it but I thought I'd mention the silly comment.
The car is great, I love it.
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after 3000rpm at WOT i felt that the car pulled alot harder when charcoals were removed . and rememeber what ever you do to increase air flow will have an effect on low end torque but increase it in the upper rpm ranges , as the previous post said it pretty much is driver preference .
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+1. I think Mercedes got this car right out of the box.
For what it's worth, I re-installed my charcoal filters after a couple of weeks; I have found that low rpm part throttle response and drivability is better with them in. There is a very slight drop in peak power at the top of the RPM scale, but with new OEM Mann air filters, not enough make a lot of difference in the real world. I'm leaving the charcoals in.
Enjoy your car, ultimately all that matters is that it is set up and performing to your liking, whether you choose to mod or leave it stock.
For what it's worth, I re-installed my charcoal filters after a couple of weeks; I have found that low rpm part throttle response and drivability is better with them in. There is a very slight drop in peak power at the top of the RPM scale, but with new OEM Mann air filters, not enough make a lot of difference in the real world. I'm leaving the charcoals in.
Enjoy your car, ultimately all that matters is that it is set up and performing to your liking, whether you choose to mod or leave it stock.
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Hi Guys i did what you guy rec I remove the carbon filters and drove about 4-6 days with the old ari filter and no ECL but as soon as I replace the air filter with K&N the ECL came on what should i due Now? do i new to paid a trip to the Merc Dealer/SHOP or replace the carbon filter back or OEM air filter back in??
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Hi Guys i did what you guy rec I remove the carbon filters and drove about 4-6 days with the old ari filter and no ECL but as soon as I replace the air filter with K&N the ECL came on what should i due Now? do i new to paid a trip to the Merc Dealer/SHOP or replace the carbon filter back or OEM air filter back in??
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Hi Guys i did what you guy rec I remove the carbon filters and drove about 4-6 days with the old ari filter and no ECL but as soon as I replace the air filter with K&N the ECL came on what should i due Now? do i new to paid a trip to the Merc Dealer/SHOP or replace the carbon filter back or OEM air filter back in??
or just do a ecu tune . ever since my mods and tune i never had a CEL light come back on
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Hi Guys i did what you guy rec I remove the carbon filters and drove about 4-6 days with the old ari filter and no ECL but as soon as I replace the air filter with K&N the ECL came on what should i due Now? do i new to paid a trip to the Merc Dealer/SHOP or replace the carbon filter back or OEM air filter back in??
F*****g junk products from K&N.
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List of mods I found for the E63:
1. Carbonio Airbox for 63 engine: 18-22hp
2. Evosport pulley: 15-20 hp
3. Evomsit ECU: 540hp for $1900 (thats a great deal in my opinion)
4. Renntech headers
5. Kleemann downpipes
6. Hennessey ECU and Headers(their headers/mid-pipes get 28-30hp)
7. Eisenhaus/Meisterschaft exhaust: 6-8 hp
I think with a mix and match of mods, you can get close to 600 hp if you wanted to dish out some cash. But 575 hp will get you to 3.9 sec 0-60. That should be quick enough.
1. Carbonio Airbox for 63 engine: 18-22hp
2. Evosport pulley: 15-20 hp
3. Evomsit ECU: 540hp for $1900 (thats a great deal in my opinion)
4. Renntech headers
5. Kleemann downpipes
6. Hennessey ECU and Headers(their headers/mid-pipes get 28-30hp)
7. Eisenhaus/Meisterschaft exhaust: 6-8 hp
I think with a mix and match of mods, you can get close to 600 hp if you wanted to dish out some cash. But 575 hp will get you to 3.9 sec 0-60. That should be quick enough.
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List of mods I found for the E63:
1. Carbonio Airbox for 63 engine: 18-22hp
2. Evosport pulley: 15-20 hp
3. Evomsit ECU: 540hp for $1900 (thats a great deal in my opinion)
4. Renntech headers
5. Kleemann downpipes
6. Hennessey ECU and Headers(their headers/mid-pipes get 28-30hp)
7. Eisenhaus/Meisterschaft exhaust: 6-8 hp
I think with a mix and match of mods, you can get close to 600 hp if you wanted to dish out some cash. But 575 hp will get you to 3.9 sec 0-60. That should be quick enough.
1. Carbonio Airbox for 63 engine: 18-22hp
2. Evosport pulley: 15-20 hp
3. Evomsit ECU: 540hp for $1900 (thats a great deal in my opinion)
4. Renntech headers
5. Kleemann downpipes
6. Hennessey ECU and Headers(their headers/mid-pipes get 28-30hp)
7. Eisenhaus/Meisterschaft exhaust: 6-8 hp
I think with a mix and match of mods, you can get close to 600 hp if you wanted to dish out some cash. But 575 hp will get you to 3.9 sec 0-60. That should be quick enough.
airbox,Kleemann tune and headers + 2 hi flow cats , evo pulley, Ram air , thermalanators , and some thermal wrapping .
Right now the long tubes from Evo is a no brainer . for the money they will make the most power !!!!
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We hit the track in october it was 55 degrees with almost 100 % humidity and we were 12.0's to 12.1's all day . We hot lapped the car with no cool downs in between and also had a issue with the slicks rubbing due to the Renntech lowering mod . Also ran with the 19 inch wheels as well . Best 60 ft time was 1.82 .
cold weather 40 degrees with no humidity and some practice and im certain we can drop another 2-3 tenths off our time .
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stock vs stock FYI
7 e55's stock in the 11's vs 3 e63's in the 11's . and this is only due to the fact that the E55 has been out for more years .
cls none on both sides but Juicee63 is tops in that class .
So why should u prefer a 55 ????? Simple answer EASE OF MODDING !!!! Modded no doubt its easy and alot cheaper .
7 e55's stock in the 11's vs 3 e63's in the 11's . and this is only due to the fact that the E55 has been out for more years .
cls none on both sides but Juicee63 is tops in that class .
So why should u prefer a 55 ????? Simple answer EASE OF MODDING !!!! Modded no doubt its easy and alot cheaper .
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E55 has SBC. So, no thanks!!! NA E63 had me at ignition, and I've seen the estimates in my shop for SBC repairs. yeah. no. I know guys love the 55, and there will always be a war among us but, really? Trade a newer car for older more beat-on model? Or drop a Chevy crate in? Why not just color graphics on it with crayons too? Seriosly I laughed at the Chevy swap comment. SMH.
I'm thinkin MBH Motorsports long tube headers with x-piped mid section and software.
That's 80+/70+ hp/tq (roughly) for simple, reliable bolt-ons, and some PC time. Anyone used these or seen them in use?
I'm interested in hearing about available options for the rear end or if there's a point to an upgrade there.
I'm thinkin MBH Motorsports long tube headers with x-piped mid section and software.
That's 80+/70+ hp/tq (roughly) for simple, reliable bolt-ons, and some PC time. Anyone used these or seen them in use?
I'm interested in hearing about available options for the rear end or if there's a point to an upgrade there.
