No power off the line in tt v12?
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No power off the line in tt v12?
I just got my car back from body shop and I floor it from a stop and it upshifts, does not spin wheels and no power off the line. What could be the problem? They replaced all radiators, oil cooler, heat exch, ac condenser, rad fan. Tranny fluid level ok. All vacuum hoses look ok. This has kleemann ecu/tcu so it normally lights up tires even with esp on.????????
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The h/e cooling system needs to be bled, would be my idea.
However, there is another member with an SL65 who went through the exact same thing as you, car had to go to the body shop for some front end repair work, and never ran right afterwards. As I recall he never did get his car right, and last I heard was talking about just getting rid of it.
I hope you get to the bottom of the issue. But in my personal experience, cars are never the same after being in a wreck.
However, there is another member with an SL65 who went through the exact same thing as you, car had to go to the body shop for some front end repair work, and never ran right afterwards. As I recall he never did get his car right, and last I heard was talking about just getting rid of it.
I hope you get to the bottom of the issue. But in my personal experience, cars are never the same after being in a wreck.
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yes they had the dealer do that, I have replaced the intercooler hoses that go under the coil packs with 1inch clear hose so I can visually see if there is air in the lines. I thought it was the tps or throttle position sensor that kept making it upshifty but I replaced it and it did not fix it. If the tps goes bad the tcu and ecu are not on the same page and you might start off in 5th gear thus no power.
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yes they had the dealer do that, I have replaced the intercooler hoses that go under the coil packs with 1inch clear hose so I can visually see if there is air in the lines. I thought it was the tps or throttle position sensor that kept making it upshifty but I replaced it and it did not fix it. If the tps goes bad the tcu and ecu are not on the same page and you might start off in 5th gear thus no power.
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yes they had the dealer do that, I have replaced the intercooler hoses that go under the coil packs with 1inch clear hose so I can visually see if there is air in the lines. I thought it was the tps or throttle position sensor that kept making it upshifty but I replaced it and it did not fix it. If the tps goes bad the tcu and ecu are not on the same page and you might start off in 5th gear thus no power.
I think it could be tranny problem. Load limiter active etc ...
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egs? electronic gear selector?????? manual mode works, but cannot spin tires from a stop even in dyno mode. poor acceleration in low rpms, after 4000rpm boost is there and pulls good. I thought the shop put too much tranny fluid in, would it cause this. I told them not to flash ecu/tcu as I have Kleemann tune. I used to have huge boost starting at 3000rpm now it comes much later in rpm.
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hmmm...
That sounds like it could be quite a few things... no codes thrown at all?
Take it back to Kleemann... I doubt merc would try and get you your tune back.
P.S. try a tranny reset (aka sneaky ecu reset).
That sounds like it could be quite a few things... no codes thrown at all?
Take it back to Kleemann... I doubt merc would try and get you your tune back.
P.S. try a tranny reset (aka sneaky ecu reset).
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no codes thrown, did the ecu reset, even disconnected - battery overnight. no change. I still have M mode speedshift like the s65AMG so that means dealer did not flash tcu and I was told ecu was not flashed either.
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Have you had the car in reverse at all?
And, no disrepect, did you do the TCU reset (aka "sneaky ecu reset") correctly - i.e. wait a full 25-30 seconds...?
And, no disrepect, did you do the TCU reset (aka "sneaky ecu reset") correctly - i.e. wait a full 25-30 seconds...?
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My car was in the shop they changed hood, radiator support, radiator,and ac condenser, and my car still pulls hard...
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FWIW ... my MB tech told me the V12's are the only cars that need to be pressure bled for coolant, but the workshop would have known that.
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i have reverse but did not try to do a burnout in reverse yet. could try. i did the reset long enough. i saw no air coming out or going thru intercooler lines. besides, i tested the car when it was cool outside and before intercoolers got warm. on a cool night intercoolers stay at about ambient temp in my car thanks to added capacity of my 1 inch intercooler hoses.
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Spark plugs / coil packs / fuel / injectors / compression test
Turbo bearings?
ECU / EGS ...?
I can't see it being much else.
Turbo bearings?
ECU / EGS ...?
I can't see it being much else.
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Good luck
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Without ANY cels's to go by, ALL the air out of the IC system, and with NO mechanical damage to the engine. What else can you do
Good luck
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I think I may have found the problem. With the air boxes off the right turbo spins slower than the left. When I turn off engine right one stops about 7 seconds before left one does. Maybe the bearing is bad. The shop did run my engine for a short time with no oil to get the car off the flatbed when it was towed to body shop. Oil cooler line broke off in accident. I was told it ran just to get it off the truck. Would that damage turbo?
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I think I may have found the problem. With the air boxes off the right turbo spins slower than the left. When I turn off engine right one stops about 7 seconds before left one does. Maybe the bearing is bad. The shop did run my engine for a short time with no oil to get the car off the flatbed when it was towed to body shop. Oil cooler line broke off in accident. I was told it ran just to get it off the truck. Would that damage turbo?
Does sounds like you need to have these bearings done anyway....
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I think I may have found the problem. With the air boxes off the right turbo spins slower than the left. When I turn off engine right one stops about 7 seconds before left one does. Maybe the bearing is bad. The shop did run my engine for a short time with no oil to get the car off the flatbed when it was towed to body shop. Oil cooler line broke off in accident. I was told it ran just to get it off the truck. Would that damage turbo?
Why did they need to run the engine to get it off the truck? That does not sound right to me at all. Did they not feel like pushing the car into their body shop? Ask the towing company why that would ever be done or if they would ever start a car where they know the oil lines were damaged. They could have done tens of thousands of dollars in engine and turbo damage with no lubrication. Running an engine at any length of time without lubrication is an issue.
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they ran the engine to raise the car, abc was dropped on all four wheels=need valve blocks i think. I noticed my gas milage is much worse now too and runs hotter. Maybe the running with no oil caused more friction in the engine parts causing more heat production and less gas milage and less hp. I cant even spin the tires from a stop even in dyno mode. I used to be able to spin tires with esp on without even trying.
