cam346

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0CEr...layer_embedded

Zod

What Makes u think that is a k4 55?

I say this for two reasons:

 The C63 would have been raped horribly
 The CLS had 09 lights on the side mirrors...which means it is not a 55 but a 63. Unless it had then updated, but given the results i think its more then likly a 63

C63newdude

The person that provided the original video is the one that provided the information. You are the only person questioning the authenticity.

This is the original video and the original person that provided the video:

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...mph-rolls.html

Now, who do you think we believe, you? or the guy that not only recorded the video, raced the cars and provided a detailed description of the mods? Exactly...

Zod

then the poor man needs to get his car checked
ah my bad should have checked...its an MHP promo

and FYI. The car DAD63 is refering to is Alan no?...who has just set the bar at 130mhp in the 1/4....show me a 63 that does that with boltons and no NOS

hhughes1

No doubt that the modded 55's trap higher in the 1/4 than their 63 powered siblings although 130mph seems to be rare air even for the Kompressor crowd. I really can't tell anything from this video but as for DADSC63's comments:

bassn_07

If these guys are both from Florida he's probably referring to Vinny. Vinny has a very strong running E55 that needs to concentrate on cooling. Once this cooling mod is done the C63 will have a very hard time catching him.

C63newdude

Have you heard of heat soak? well, it affects the E55 more that it affects the C63 primarily because the E55 is supercharged.

blackbenzz

Ice reservoir, h/e, and pump... game over

chiromikey

yes and with the proper 55 cooling mods...game over!

Zod

A yes my bad, it was Vinny!

got you two mixed up for some reason

chiromikey

funny thing is that he and andy/mhp keep claiming to have beaten a low 11 second car by beating vinny. ironically they never beat vinny when his car ran 11.1...just when his car was having obvious problems and only running 11.9! sorry...I'm not impressed!

now we see vids of an mhp car beating a kleeman car with what seems to be i/c pump issues (obviously more than just "heatsoak") and we're supposed to think mhp is something special. the smoke and mirrors never end from the mhp camp. I guess we shouldn't be surprised...we still get suckers that discover the gustav vids for the first time. and now andy talks about taking vids and laughing at other tuners...I wonder if he knows we're still laughing at the clk63bs that couldn't even break 10's on mhp's all out c16 tune AND n2o!

c32AMG-DTM

To be fair... runs are runs. Sure, S/C'd vehicles get heat soaked more than their N/A counterparts - but speculation that "the other car must've had problems" in all of these situations that are popping up is a bit silly.

Vinny's E55 has run as low as low, low 11's - and it was probably during FL winter, possibly significantly negative DA (dunno for sure ). So, during the FL summer, high heat high humidity, he loses 8/10ths - does that really demonstrate a "problem" or is it possible that it's attributable to the atmospheric conditions?

Keith's C63 has almost 50 rwhp/rwtq more than he did last season when he ran 11.4 - is it that unreasonable that under ideal conditions this FL winter, he might run 11.1 or better?

As for the car in these vids - is an iced reservoir even feasibly helpful on back-to-back-to-back WOT freeway roll-ons? From the post in the C63 forum, appears these guys ran quite a few times...

Full disclosure - I was an MHP customer when they used Dave's tuning; ultimately v1 and v2 didn't deliver the goods in my vehicle... played by the rules and subsequently was fully refunded by MHP. Just my own direct, first-hand experience - realize it's different than some others.

vinnyz

let me chime in here ... when i ran keith i was on street tires and pulled a 2.0 60ft time and still ran 11.9 .. i still trap 2-3 mph faster . keiths car is fast and when we have ran on the street the only time i that i pulled a bit on him was when my car wasn't hot . but if we do back to back to back runs he can beat me .. when i change my intercooler like bassn07 then i dont think he can stand a chance . my IAT's at the end of the run ran up to 178f . my car's issue is cooling

TopGun32

anything over 140F IAT's is pulling timing... I can't quantify how much power is loosing, but I would not be surprised the SC disengaging after a few more degrees.

The bigger HE will help bring down your temps.. but it wont' really help the spike in the IAT temps. You will have to run a separate IC system with a large reservoir (trunk mounted). Only this setup will help reduce the IAT heat spike.

In my car, I can hit 140F on a run to about 120+ on a 85F degree day. I can recover quickly and go at it again. But I won't be able to reduce that spike of 140F unless I do as mentioned above.

In my case.. I hardly race anybody and I'm perfectly okay staying under 120.

vinnyz

i have the after market h/e that is separated with johnson cm 30 pump .. my car running around town stays at 116 but on a run with 95f here and 90% humidity it gets hot .. but i am gonna put in trunk system very soon

vinnyz

bassn7 good luck on track night

bassn_07

Thanks Vinny! I need to take care of my idling issue but it should be resolved tomorrow. I'll give you a call if I end up running 10's.