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Old 11-16-2009, 02:32 PM
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Sorry for the off topic, but has any Bi-Turbo V12 breached the 133mph mark?
If not, does this make Alan's car the fastest documented Mercedes?
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Wow, 133mph trap.. that is smoking!
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Originally Posted by V12Godspeed
Congrats Hammer Down!!!

Those a re very impressive times...what seems to be more impressive and I take nothing away from your runs is Alans run. 10.8 at 133 is nothing to be hiding off. Come out, come out where ever you are!!....Surprised he has not chimed in and posted that he just shattered the Non nos E55 record.
It's hard to see from the video if the other car ran 10.80 or 11.80 since the second digit of ET was hidden but please note that if that car was indeed Alan's car, and it did run 10.80s, then this should put the DA argument to rest. I believe Alan's last run was:

11.04x @ 130 mph ---> 1400 ft DA

Assuming the run from yesterday was Alan's car, and he ran

10.8x @ 133 mph ---> 230 ft DA

Then it is very clear that a DA difference of only 1200 ft, even when close to zero, does make a noticeable difference. Furthermore, if our assumptions are correct, then we get a situation where the same car, same mods, same driver, same time of day, same tires, same launch, but different DA (on a different day) resulting in different results.

Alan has been saying this for a while, and even before Alan, Juicee and I have been screaming this fact for much longer. We've provided so many timeslips from at least 4 tracks of same cars running in different DA causing a great variance.

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^^All we have to see is the slip to put it to rest, LOL...tell Hammer Down to post the slip of this run and it should clearly state it.

I have no doubt it is a 10.80..Wooohoo.

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Originally Posted by Tech-Tune
has any Bi-Turbo V12 breached the 133mph mark
nope
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Hey guys, yes it was my car but i don't want to post in hammer's thread and take away from his great accomplishment. I didn't plan on posting but hammer made a spectacular run and I didn't want to be selfish by asking him not to post. I'll start a new thread soon to give my props.

Once again hammer nice run!
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Originally Posted by V12Godspeed
^^All we have to see is the slip to put it to rest, LOL...tell Hammer Down to post the slip of this run and it should clearly state it.

I have no doubt it is a 10.80..Wooohoo.

I got to see it 1st hand, my thought when I saw him pulling away out of the blocks I was like holy *****, never before have I felt like I was standing still in my car as I was accelerating and I didn't have a bad run 12.09@121.18. If I didn't trip the ESC on my launch it would have been closer 8

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Originally Posted by bassn_07
Hey guys, yes it was my car but i don't want to post in hammer's thread and take away from his great accomplishment. I didn't plan on posting but hammer made a spectacular run and I didn't want to be selfish by asking him not to post. I'll start a new thread soon to give my props.

Once again hammer nice run!
Start the damn thread so we can congrat you then
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Start the damn thread so we can congrat you then
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Start the damn thread so we can congrat you then
+2...LOL

Hammer, I am sure with a few more bolt on's you will be neck and neck. Your car is a freak.
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Originally Posted by bassn_07
Hey guys, yes it was my car but i don't want to post in hammer's thread and take away from his great accomplishment. I didn't plan on posting but hammer made a spectacular run and I didn't want to be selfish by asking him not to post. I'll start a new thread soon to give my props.

Once again hammer nice run!
Alan you're to kind, now go on and post that ***** cause your video is better than the one my son took while he was freezing
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You and your are car are DA MAN Jack!!

Now start modding that BIOTCH!
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Hammer, sorry if took your thread off topic regarding Alan's run.
I had not intented on re-directing the limelite away from your accomplishment.

Again congrats on your amazing run. and please start modding that abomination of yours
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
It's hard to see from the video if the other car ran 10.80 or 11.80 since the second digit of ET was hidden but please note that if that car was indeed Alan's car, and it did run 10.80s, then this should put the DA argument to rest. I believe Alan's last run was:

11.4x @ 130 mph ---> 1400 ft DA

Assuming the run from yesterday was Alan's car, and he ran

10.8x @ 133 mph ---> 230 ft DA

Then it is very clear that a DA difference of only 1200 ft, even when close to zero, does make a noticeable difference. Furthermore, if our assumptions are correct, then we get a situation where the same car, same mods, same driver, same time of day, same tires, same launch, but different DA (on a different day) resulting in different results.

Alan has been saying this for a while, and even before Alan, Juicee and I have been screaming this fact for much longer. We've provided so many timeslips from at least 4 tracks of same cars running in different DA causing a great variance.

I agree DA matters very much so and every time Alan and I go to the track we pay attention to it to see what effects if any it has. I have noticed that it effects the car a lot. I was there as well and my car picked up 4 mph on the back half from my previous runs. The car just felt a lot stronger but my DR's have a nail in it so I didn't have any clean runs. I have just too much power for the street tires to handle.

Congrats to both Jack and Alan for having awesome runs and beating their personal bests. It's always a pleasure to watch friends and fellow MB owners run down the track.
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You and your are car are DA MAN Jack!!

Now start modding that BIOTCH!
I'm going to see how quick/fast I can go with stock power 1st!

Originally Posted by Tech-Tune
Hammer, sorry if took your thread off topic regarding Alan's run.
I had not intented on re-directing the limelite away from your accomplishment.

Again congrats on your amazing run. and please start modding that abomination of yours
Thx bro
Originally Posted by Mikesamg
I agree DA matters very much so and every time Alan and I go to the track we pay attention to it to see what effects if any it has. I have noticed that it effects the car a lot. I was there as well and my car picked up 4 mph on the back half from my previous runs. The car just felt a lot stronger but my DR's have a nail in it so I didn't have any clean runs. I have just too much power for the street tires to handle.

Congrats to both Jack and Alan for having awesome runs and beating their personal bests. It's always a pleasure to watch friends and fellow MB owners run down the track.
Thx Mike, it was cool that we could all meet up and have fun and break some records. I was telling my son on the way up to the track that we have fast, faster and fastest rolling bumper to bumper and did you notice the looks that we were getting?

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Wow. That's hauling! Keep it up!
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Wow. That's hauling! Keep it up!
Thx Big E, you are the reason that I do this, When I look at your record slip I see that I still have room for improvement. your run vs mine

My Run vs
5.014
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Big E's run

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These are the #'s that I am shooting for

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Originally Posted by bassn_07
Hey guys, yes it was my car but i don't want to post in hammer's thread and take away from his great accomplishment. I didn't plan on posting but hammer made a spectacular run and I didn't want to be selfish by asking him not to post. I'll start a new thread soon to give my props.

Once again hammer nice run!
Dang - I've never heard a SC on a Mercedes sound like yours. Almost sounds like you had a Kenny Bell on top or were spraying a 125 shot through it.

Nice times and MPH to both guys though.
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Outstanding run!!!, Thanks for showing the stock potential of the E55. (celestial body alignment or not) keep up the good work.
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Congrats, nice trap!!! I agree that stock means down to the tires but others have differing opinions.

I believe that run gives Alan the fastest Mercedes ever title (with or without nitrous) or at least one of the fastest. 133mph?!?!?!
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sick power,your car has to be putting down 530whp 600tq for those numbers,ever dyno it?was this on race gas?

you trapped 4mph faster than my 180 pulley car,I mean my car was 100% healthy,dynod it and tracked it the next day with the same gas/conditions and you just blew away a 480whp car.
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Congrats, nice trap!!! I agree that stock means down to the tires but others have differing opinions.
I know everyone has the opinion on "stock" so that's why I changed my sig to "stock powered". At one time before I went 118 everyone kept telling me to put the stock 18's back on and you reach 11's cause their lighter than your 19" Maya's and I said no I want to stick with the 19's and try to do it the way the car runs on a daily basis, then I started to really learn how to launch my car on the 19" street tires and I up the air pressure and went 118 then the next time out I went 119 and no one said anything about "stock" at that time. So if the 19's are said to be bad for drag racing wouldn't that put me at a disadvantage? Now that I ran 120 & 121 (on DR's) and I understand that the DR's aid in acceleration but I only picked up 1.9mph over my best on street tires, is it the "120" that has people are saying "well techincally your not stock" Ahmad don't get me wrong I'm not coming at you its more of a conversation with you waiting for your response.

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sick power,your car has to be putting down 530whp 600tq for those numbers,ever dyno it?was this on race gas?

you trapped 4mph faster than my 180 pulley car,I mean my car was 100% healthy,dynod it and tracked it the next day with the same gas/conditions and you just blew away a 480whp car.
thx bro, I thought I would never go 120 in "stock powered form" I knew I was only .78mph away from my previous best but I didn't think it was possible.

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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
I know everyone has the opinion on "stock" so that's why I changed my sig to "stock powered". At one time before I went 118 everyone kept telling me to put the stock 18's back on and you reach 11's cause their lighter than your 19" Maya's and I said no I want to stick with the 19's and try to do it the way the car runs on a daily basis, then I started to really learn how to launch my car on the 19" street tires and I up the air pressure and went 118 then the next time out I went 119 and no one said anything about "stock" at that time. So if the 19's are said to be bad for drag racing wouldn't that put me at a disadvantage? Now that I ran 120 & 121 (on DR's) and I understand that the DR's aid in acceleration but I only picked up 1.9mph over my best on street tires, is it the "120" that has people are saying "well techincally your not stock" Ahmad don't get me wrong I'm not coming at you its more of a conversation with you waiting for your response.
Exactly, people have differing opinions on stock. My opinion is stock, means the same as it was off the showroom floor. One could make the argument that the 19's have wider tires and maybe stickier tires than stock which counters the weight difference. Even if they put you at a disadvantage (they probably do), it is no longer considered stock IMO. Anything changed on the car, whether for good or bad means that it is no longer stock to me. But thats just my opinion. I'm not trying to take anything away from your runs, they are incredible! Congrats again and I look forward to seeing your future runs


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