Just dyno'd....
11-18-2009, 11:32 AM
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Funny I seem to have tracked my car alot more than you have tracked yours.
I won't resort to talking about a persons comprehension and personal attack.
I urge you to go race a CLS 63 and report back
11-18-2009, 12:19 PM
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Damn boys.Some of you THINK you are adults.
Juiecce63,was your point just to bash me?You need to read the MB forum guidlines before you get banned.
As far as my comment on the 63's.....I have several friends who work for MB and to say I was sad the day I found out AMG would no longer be offering SC engines is an understatment,I thought they made a HUGE mistake making the car slower(they did and you cannot deny that)I have a friend with a 63 and I murder him on the interstate.Plus forced induction is SO much easier to mod and has much more potential without breaking into the engine to up power.That was the only point I was trying to make....Sorry if I ruffled anyones panties.If you are all adults,you should act like em and quit whining and *****ing. I am one of the very few who bought there car brand new nfor $90k+ and I wouldve bought another one if they would have kept them SC....
As far as the dyno being broken,BS.The dyno I went to has been compared with several big LS1' shops dyno and always reads lower(Vengance Racing in GA)Plus I mentioned 2 other cars that are known to make 500rwhp and run 10's in the 1/4 were just pulled off the dyno.
And as far as trying to bash Eurocharged and LET and saying you want give them buisness because of me,with there prices and the power they can pull from these cars,you will be the one on the losing end as there product and service is second to none.Total BS and if you guys are adults like u imply,some need to quit acting like spoiled babies.
As for buying anything from me...Lemme explain somthing,I am not hurting for anyones $$$ and will not bend my morals to make a sell.You talk trash to me,I wont sell to you if you are offering me 10x the money.I am here to give back and some will not get a chance to own anything produced by me.So if you are confident you will never need anything or that I am here for the short term,bash away,cause u will find its not gonna get you far.
And as far as my e55 AMG,it will continue to get faster and faster thanks to the great people at Eurocharged/LET!
Juiecce63,was your point just to bash me?You need to read the MB forum guidlines before you get banned.
As far as my comment on the 63's.....I have several friends who work for MB and to say I was sad the day I found out AMG would no longer be offering SC engines is an understatment,I thought they made a HUGE mistake making the car slower(they did and you cannot deny that)I have a friend with a 63 and I murder him on the interstate.Plus forced induction is SO much easier to mod and has much more potential without breaking into the engine to up power.That was the only point I was trying to make....Sorry if I ruffled anyones panties.If you are all adults,you should act like em and quit whining and *****ing. I am one of the very few who bought there car brand new nfor $90k+ and I wouldve bought another one if they would have kept them SC....
As far as the dyno being broken,BS.The dyno I went to has been compared with several big LS1' shops dyno and always reads lower(Vengance Racing in GA)Plus I mentioned 2 other cars that are known to make 500rwhp and run 10's in the 1/4 were just pulled off the dyno.
And as far as trying to bash Eurocharged and LET and saying you want give them buisness because of me,with there prices and the power they can pull from these cars,you will be the one on the losing end as there product and service is second to none.Total BS and if you guys are adults like u imply,some need to quit acting like spoiled babies.
As for buying anything from me...Lemme explain somthing,I am not hurting for anyones $$$ and will not bend my morals to make a sell.You talk trash to me,I wont sell to you if you are offering me 10x the money.I am here to give back and some will not get a chance to own anything produced by me.So if you are confident you will never need anything or that I am here for the short term,bash away,cause u will find its not gonna get you far.
And as far as my e55 AMG,it will continue to get faster and faster thanks to the great people at Eurocharged/LET!
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11-18-2009, 01:17 PM
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or that dyno is jacked up. I'll wait for a timeslip, or maybe a kill story where someone claims to have beaten a 532whp E55 - whichever comes first. Way to represent the modded community if the latter occurs.
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Actually my car is Stage 2.....
No one said itd run 10's either since they are 1000lbs heavier than a Mustang Cobra.
One huge difference I see between my car and everyone else's is I am running Green air filters.The dyno operator,who does a buttload of SC Ford stuff says Kenne Bell spends 100's of hours on the dyno to get an air filter that works well.SC's are very funny when it comes to intake restrictions.
Either way,the dyno damn sure isnt broken.I dont know why some of you are such haters.....My car has ran strong since day 1.
If my car doesnt make over 500rwhp,sombody better go tell the GT500 guys there cars wont make over 500rwhp with a pulley,custom tune,and CAI.Go to the Ford forums talking that and u will get 100 page replys telling u that u are smoking crack.
No one said itd run 10's either since they are 1000lbs heavier than a Mustang Cobra.
One huge difference I see between my car and everyone else's is I am running Green air filters.The dyno operator,who does a buttload of SC Ford stuff says Kenne Bell spends 100's of hours on the dyno to get an air filter that works well.SC's are very funny when it comes to intake restrictions.
Either way,the dyno damn sure isnt broken.I dont know why some of you are such haters.....My car has ran strong since day 1.
If my car doesnt make over 500rwhp,sombody better go tell the GT500 guys there cars wont make over 500rwhp with a pulley,custom tune,and CAI.Go to the Ford forums talking that and u will get 100 page replys telling u that u are smoking crack.
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Actually my car is Stage 2.....
No one said itd run 10's either since they are 1000lbs heavier than a Mustang Cobra.
One huge difference I see between my car and everyone else's is I am running Green air filters.The dyno operator,who does a buttload of SC Ford stuff says Kenne Bell spends 100's of hours on the dyno to get an air filter that works well.SC's are very funny when it comes to intake restrictions.
Either way,the dyno damn sure isnt broken.I dont know why some of you are such haters.....My car has ran strong since day 1.
If my car doesnt make over 500rwhp,sombody better go tell the GT500 guys there cars wont make over 500rwhp with a pulley,custom tune,and CAI.Go to the Ford forums talking that and u will get 100 page replys telling u that u are smoking crack.
No one said itd run 10's either since they are 1000lbs heavier than a Mustang Cobra.
One huge difference I see between my car and everyone else's is I am running Green air filters.The dyno operator,who does a buttload of SC Ford stuff says Kenne Bell spends 100's of hours on the dyno to get an air filter that works well.SC's are very funny when it comes to intake restrictions.
Either way,the dyno damn sure isnt broken.I dont know why some of you are such haters.....My car has ran strong since day 1.
If my car doesnt make over 500rwhp,sombody better go tell the GT500 guys there cars wont make over 500rwhp with a pulley,custom tune,and CAI.Go to the Ford forums talking that and u will get 100 page replys telling u that u are smoking crack.
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11-18-2009, 02:27 PM
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Damn boys.Some of you THINK you are adults.
Juiecce63,was your point just to bash me?You need to read the MB forum guidlines before you get banned.
As far as my comment on the 63's.....I have several friends who work for MB and to say I was sad the day I found out AMG would no longer be offering SC engines is an understatment,I thought they made a HUGE mistake making the car slower(they did and you cannot deny that)I have a friend with a 63 and I murder him on the interstate.Plus forced induction is SO much easier to mod and has much more potential without breaking into the engine to up power.That was the only point I was trying to make....Sorry if I ruffled anyones panties.If you are all adults,you should act like em and quit whining and *****ing. I am one of the very few who bought there car brand new nfor $90k+ and I wouldve bought another one if they would have kept them SC....
As far as the dyno being broken,BS.The dyno I went to has been compared with several big LS1' shops dyno and always reads lower(Vengance Racing in GA)Plus I mentioned 2 other cars that are known to make 500rwhp and run 10's in the 1/4 were just pulled off the dyno.
And as far as trying to bash Eurocharged and LET and saying you want give them buisness because of me,with there prices and the power they can pull from these cars,you will be the one on the losing end as there product and service is second to none.Total BS and if you guys are adults like u imply,some need to quit acting like spoiled babies.
As for buying anything from me...Lemme explain somthing,I am not hurting for anyones $$$ and will not bend my morals to make a sell.You talk trash to me,I wont sell to you if you are offering me 10x the money.I am here to give back and some will not get a chance to own anything produced by me.So if you are confident you will never need anything or that I am here for the short term,bash away,cause u will find its not gonna get you far.
And as far as my e55 AMG,it will continue to get faster and faster thanks to the great people at Eurocharged/LET!
Juiecce63,was your point just to bash me?You need to read the MB forum guidlines before you get banned.
As far as my comment on the 63's.....I have several friends who work for MB and to say I was sad the day I found out AMG would no longer be offering SC engines is an understatment,I thought they made a HUGE mistake making the car slower(they did and you cannot deny that)I have a friend with a 63 and I murder him on the interstate.Plus forced induction is SO much easier to mod and has much more potential without breaking into the engine to up power.That was the only point I was trying to make....Sorry if I ruffled anyones panties.If you are all adults,you should act like em and quit whining and *****ing. I am one of the very few who bought there car brand new nfor $90k+ and I wouldve bought another one if they would have kept them SC....
As far as the dyno being broken,BS.The dyno I went to has been compared with several big LS1' shops dyno and always reads lower(Vengance Racing in GA)Plus I mentioned 2 other cars that are known to make 500rwhp and run 10's in the 1/4 were just pulled off the dyno.
And as far as trying to bash Eurocharged and LET and saying you want give them buisness because of me,with there prices and the power they can pull from these cars,you will be the one on the losing end as there product and service is second to none.Total BS and if you guys are adults like u imply,some need to quit acting like spoiled babies.
As for buying anything from me...Lemme explain somthing,I am not hurting for anyones $$$ and will not bend my morals to make a sell.You talk trash to me,I wont sell to you if you are offering me 10x the money.I am here to give back and some will not get a chance to own anything produced by me.So if you are confident you will never need anything or that I am here for the short term,bash away,cause u will find its not gonna get you far.
And as far as my e55 AMG,it will continue to get faster and faster thanks to the great people at Eurocharged/LET!
Remember,when Motor Trend tested these cars new,a few ran 11.9's@121.
Every car ive seen always runs alot slower than the posted factory times though,esp on this site.I blame it on Benz drivers not knowing what they are doing.Read a few of u guys posts and anyone with mechaincal incling would know most here dont know jack about racing a car or even working on them for that matter.
U wanna talk BS??You saying your car cut a 1.4x 60ft is total!!!No way would these cars cut that without slicks or drag radials and ALOT more mods.
Somthing blew in front of the 60ft timer u poor naive *******.
Every car ive seen always runs alot slower than the posted factory times though,esp on this site.I blame it on Benz drivers not knowing what they are doing.Read a few of u guys posts and anyone with mechaincal incling would know most here dont know jack about racing a car or even working on them for that matter.
U wanna talk BS??You saying your car cut a 1.4x 60ft is total!!!No way would these cars cut that without slicks or drag radials and ALOT more mods.
Somthing blew in front of the 60ft timer u poor naive *******.
Its considerably faster since I am a Eurocharged dealer now...havent been on the track yet and it goes on the dyno Tuesday so I have no idea what it will do now.
Talk all the BS u want,the car ran what it ran and thats no lie
Talk all the BS u want,the car ran what it ran and thats no lie
Some people need to get a life......
Ill bet my e55 will burn mr 6000+ posts *** and it would do it STOCK
Ill bet my e55 will burn mr 6000+ posts *** and it would do it STOCK
and your signatures:
You want a slow car?Get an AMG 63.You want *****?It has to have forced induction or you better get used to staring at tail lights
1000's of posts might impress some,to me,it shows some dont have a life along with a clue.
All this from a new dealer trying to upsell.
11-18-2009, 02:43 PM
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The 63 engine can be modded to go faster than the 55k and the 55k can be modded to go faster than the 63. It's only a matter of how much you're willing to spend.
11-18-2009, 02:58 PM
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Damn boys.Some of you THINK you are adults.
Juiecce63,was your point just to bash me?You need to read the MB forum guidlines before you get banned.
As far as my comment on the 63's.....I have several friends who work for MB and to say I was sad the day I found out AMG would no longer be offering SC engines is an understatment,I thought they made a HUGE mistake making the car slower(they did and you cannot deny that)I have a friend with a 63 and I murder him on the interstate.
Juiecce63,was your point just to bash me?You need to read the MB forum guidlines before you get banned.
As far as my comment on the 63's.....I have several friends who work for MB and to say I was sad the day I found out AMG would no longer be offering SC engines is an understatment,I thought they made a HUGE mistake making the car slower(they did and you cannot deny that)I have a friend with a 63 and I murder him on the interstate.
Use your own research.... over the past 7 years, there's been countless E55 dynos on this board of stage 1, stage 2, stage 3 cars, etc.... over 90% of all these dyno sheets are in a certain range. When you see dyno numbers fall completely out of the ordinary, you yourself should question in it. Furthermore, dyno numbers don't mean much.... I've seen 550 whp cars barely running mid 11s and recently 450 whp running high 10s. Unless you actually run your car at multiple tracks, you won't get an accurate estimate of how fast or powerful your car can be.
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If your numbers are solid, are you saying this is a complete waste of money?
Eurocharged E55 Stage 3 power package now available!!!!!!!
We our proud to introduce Our E55 Stage 3 power package
Stage 3 Package price is $4999.99
Kit includes
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Price on all parts if bought separately would be $6522.00 that's a savings of $1522.01
With this kit we have seen 501whp and 575wtq on a 2004 E55
Eurocharged E55 Stage 3 power package now available!!!!!!!
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Stage 3 Package price is $4999.99
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Price on all parts if bought separately would be $6522.00 that's a savings of $1522.01
With this kit we have seen 501whp and 575wtq on a 2004 E55
11-18-2009, 03:05 PM
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They did not make it slower, they made it much harder to go faster. In stock form, the cars are very close.... the average stock E63 goes 12.4 to 12.6 in 1/4 mile and the average E55 goes 12.3 to 12.5. This makes it a driver's race if anything. When you start modding both cars, it becomes a matter of money.... you'll need to spend more to get the 63 to go faster, but once you do, it will most definitely go fast.
Use your own research.... over the past 7 years, there's been countless E55 dynos on this board of stage 1, stage 2, stage 3 cars, etc.... over 90% of all these dyno sheets are in a certain range. When you see dyno numbers fall completely out of the ordinary, you yourself should question in it. Furthermore, dyno numbers don't mean much.... I've seen 550 whp cars barely running mid 11s and recently 450 whp running high 10s. Unless you actually run your car at multiple tracks, you won't get an accurate estimate of how fast or powerful your car can be.
Use your own research.... over the past 7 years, there's been countless E55 dynos on this board of stage 1, stage 2, stage 3 cars, etc.... over 90% of all these dyno sheets are in a certain range. When you see dyno numbers fall completely out of the ordinary, you yourself should question in it. Furthermore, dyno numbers don't mean much.... I've seen 550 whp cars barely running mid 11s and recently 450 whp running high 10s. Unless you actually run your car at multiple tracks, you won't get an accurate estimate of how fast or powerful your car can be.
And to the OP...how about just posting the dyno graph with the stats and correction factor...that sure would settle the arguments.
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11-18-2009, 03:27 PM
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Im not sure what planet some of you are from but let me say this to you again. A forced inducted engine will make more power than a N/A motor will each and every time. Dollar for dollar and mod for mod. The laws of physics dont go out the window when you buy a benz.
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1) Stock for Stock, the cars come very close, and it becomes a driver's race.
2) Modded for modded, you can make either car much faster depending how much money you are willing to dump in each. Granted however, that it will be cheaper to mod the F/I in general.
The other argument was regarding his remarks about 63 owners and benz driver's in general, which by the way, includes you.
I've personally seen Juicee (his car only had a tune at the time) race with a Stage 1 CLS55 and beat it 3 times at Fontana, a year and a half ago.
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That was never the argument at all.... the argument was: a 63-equipped car can keep up with the same car equipped with 55k engine in the following scenarios....
1) Stock for Stock, the cars come very close, and it becomes a driver's race.
2) Modded for modded, you can make either car much faster depending how much money you are willing to dump in each. Granted however, that it will be cheaper to mod the F/I in general.
The other argument was regarding his remarks about 63 owners and benz driver's in general, which by the way, includes you.
I've personally seen Juicee (his car only had a tune at the time) race with a Stage 1 CLS55 and beat it 3 times at Fontana, a year and a half ago.
1) Stock for Stock, the cars come very close, and it becomes a driver's race.
2) Modded for modded, you can make either car much faster depending how much money you are willing to dump in each. Granted however, that it will be cheaper to mod the F/I in general.
The other argument was regarding his remarks about 63 owners and benz driver's in general, which by the way, includes you.
I've personally seen Juicee (his car only had a tune at the time) race with a Stage 1 CLS55 and beat it 3 times at Fontana, a year and a half ago.
Do you not understand that these motors are just a blower swap away from 700whp without ever touching the short block? If a tuner ever decided to offer a blower similar to the whipples and Kenne bell's available for mustang its game over. a 63 will never make 700+whp without Nitrous EVER!!!
Thank you.
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On a side note, your statement: "a forced inducted engine will make more power than a N/A motor" is not completely accurate. You would have to be comparing (at least) semi-similarly speced engines: same displacement (or close), cylinders, etc.... I would assume an 8.0L N/A will destroy any 2.0 L forced inducted. A corrected statement would be include "comparable engines" or at least "similarly speced", etc...
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Do you not understand that these motors are just a blower swap away from 700whp without ever touching the short block? If a tuner ever decided to offer a blower similar to the whipples and Kenne bell's available for mustang its game over. a 63 will never make 700+whp without Nitrous EVER!!!
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Again, that was never the argument.... nobody contested or argued that fact. Please re-read my last post again.
On a side note, your statement: "a forced inducted engine will make more power than a N/A motor" is not completely accurate. You would have to be comparing (at least) semi-similarly speced engines: same displacement (or close), cylinders, etc.... I would assume an 8.0L N/A will destroy any 2.0 L forced inducted. A corrected statement would be include "comparable engines" or at least "similarly speced", etc...
On a side note, your statement: "a forced inducted engine will make more power than a N/A motor" is not completely accurate. You would have to be comparing (at least) semi-similarly speced engines: same displacement (or close), cylinders, etc.... I would assume an 8.0L N/A will destroy any 2.0 L forced inducted. A corrected statement would be include "comparable engines" or at least "similarly speced", etc...
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Damn boys.Some of you THINK you are adults.
Juiecce63,was your point just to bash me?You need to read the MB forum guidlines before you get banned.
As far as my comment on the 63's.....I have several friends who work for MB and to say I was sad the day I found out AMG would no longer be offering SC engines is an understatment,I thought they made a HUGE mistake making the car slower(they did and you cannot deny that)I have a friend with a 63 and I murder him on the interstate.Plus forced induction is SO much easier to mod and has much more potential without breaking into the engine to up power.That was the only point I was trying to make....Sorry if I ruffled anyones panties.If you are all adults,you should act like em and quit whining and *****ing. I am one of the very few who bought there car brand new nfor $90k+ and I wouldve bought another one if they would have kept them SC....
As far as the dyno being broken,BS.The dyno I went to has been compared with several big LS1' shops dyno and always reads lower(Vengance Racing in GA)Plus I mentioned 2 other cars that are known to make 500rwhp and run 10's in the 1/4 were just pulled off the dyno.
And as far as trying to bash Eurocharged and LET and saying you want give them buisness because of me,with there prices and the power they can pull from these cars,you will be the one on the losing end as there product and service is second to none.Total BS and if you guys are adults like u imply,some need to quit acting like spoiled babies.
As for buying anything from me...Lemme explain somthing,I am not hurting for anyones $$$ and will not bend my morals to make a sell.You talk trash to me,I wont sell to you if you are offering me 10x the money.I am here to give back and some will not get a chance to own anything produced by me.So if you are confident you will never need anything or that I am here for the short term,bash away,cause u will find its not gonna get you far.
And as far as my e55 AMG,it will continue to get faster and faster thanks to the great people at Eurocharged/LET!
Juiecce63,was your point just to bash me?You need to read the MB forum guidlines before you get banned.
As far as my comment on the 63's.....I have several friends who work for MB and to say I was sad the day I found out AMG would no longer be offering SC engines is an understatment,I thought they made a HUGE mistake making the car slower(they did and you cannot deny that)I have a friend with a 63 and I murder him on the interstate.Plus forced induction is SO much easier to mod and has much more potential without breaking into the engine to up power.That was the only point I was trying to make....Sorry if I ruffled anyones panties.If you are all adults,you should act like em and quit whining and *****ing. I am one of the very few who bought there car brand new nfor $90k+ and I wouldve bought another one if they would have kept them SC....
As far as the dyno being broken,BS.The dyno I went to has been compared with several big LS1' shops dyno and always reads lower(Vengance Racing in GA)Plus I mentioned 2 other cars that are known to make 500rwhp and run 10's in the 1/4 were just pulled off the dyno.
And as far as trying to bash Eurocharged and LET and saying you want give them buisness because of me,with there prices and the power they can pull from these cars,you will be the one on the losing end as there product and service is second to none.Total BS and if you guys are adults like u imply,some need to quit acting like spoiled babies.
As for buying anything from me...Lemme explain somthing,I am not hurting for anyones $$$ and will not bend my morals to make a sell.You talk trash to me,I wont sell to you if you are offering me 10x the money.I am here to give back and some will not get a chance to own anything produced by me.So if you are confident you will never need anything or that I am here for the short term,bash away,cause u will find its not gonna get you far.
And as far as my e55 AMG,it will continue to get faster and faster thanks to the great people at Eurocharged/LET!
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It's times like this that makes me embarrassed to own an AMG.
Boys and their big toys with a little organ in their pants.
WTF.
Why can't you just discuss your adventures in a positive way instead of playing schoolboy gladiators with your bad grammar and 3rd grade spelling?
It makes me embarrassed to be an American, too. AMG/Daimler employees probably read these forums for their lunch hour entertainment.
Boys and their big toys with a little organ in their pants.
WTF.
Why can't you just discuss your adventures in a positive way instead of playing schoolboy gladiators with your bad grammar and 3rd grade spelling?It makes me embarrassed to be an American, too. AMG/Daimler employees probably read these forums for their lunch hour entertainment.
11-18-2009, 05:09 PM
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You should update your sig to include headers then. Stages are not standardized across the board, but normally headers are stage II in most of the s/c modding communities I've participated in. You can put all this to rest with a track slip to back up the dyno numbers. Also, a car that dyno'd less than 500rwhp recently broke into the 10's, so you should expect to be in the same ballpark with 532 real rwhp and similar environmental conditions.
