prodigymb

oo crap i forgot you had it too. there is another person too.

where did you put the nozzle?

lowprofile

LOL! One of Bilal's earlier progressive controller.

blackbenzz

Any of the meth guys try making a pass without meth and then one with to see if it makes any difference on the track? I'm sure it does. Maybe next year I will play with that

sneakyneon

prodigymb

into the intercooler. aha perfect. did you do before or after the core? tough to tell from that pic

lowprofile

Tough pic to figure out but my guess is that he mounted it after the core. The fluid channels run horizontal, so this nozzle must be placed on the side of the intercooler in the photo, probably one on the other side of the intercooler too. Also, I would guess the light we see inside the intercooler is coming through the bypass hole.

lowprofile

Here is a pic, posted by rasoul, of the nozzle mounted before the core(slk32 application):

sneakyneon

Its mounted after,IMO (which means squat) The core has a hard enough time just getting air through it.

prodigymb

where did you tap after the core...seems like it's really hard to get there. any pics from outside of the itner cooler

sneakyneon

This is a glimpse of the what I've been seeing. The car is still on a stock tune, this was the 3rd pull i made. All the pulls were within 5 min of each other, this pull is about 5mph to 120ish. What I find amazing is that the temp actually comes down from its peak during the pass.

sneakyneon

Here is what a 1/4 mile pass looks like with the rear mount tank PACKED with ice, I had iced down the SC as well for an our prior to this pass. you can tell in the photo but the pre run temp was 57 degrees. outside air temp was around 70.

sneakyneon

Sorry for all the giant images.

mrphotoman

lol i use scanxl as well and a scangauge usb, works great!

phantom1

I wish i understood what all of this means. I'll figure it out soon. Thanks guys for taking the time out to post pics .

lowprofile

Thanks for sharing sneaky. I can't believe how much more timing you are getting. From 11 to 33*, is that accurate?
A couple of questions come to mind if you care to answer. First, did you figure out a way to pull fuel to compensate, or are you injecting mostly water/washer fluid? What size nozzle did you try?
-lowpro

prodigymb

those IATs are phenomenal my friend. i am sold

do you think with the nozzle mounted on one sided there is slightly uneven distribution between left and right banks?

on a 60 degree night from 0 to 130mph my IATs go to 125 with ICE packed in my 9gallon reservoir.

NEMES1S

you can use a dual nozzle kit, it really doesn't add that much to the cost of the kit, and it isn't much harder to install it.

sneakyneon

Well I think its right? Timing is a function of a few things but IAT is part along with knock. I'm not pulling fuel yet, Im going to wait till I get the tune, I want to shoot for around 11.8 ish at wot this way if it fails to activate it will put me at 12.8, not the safest afr but still will not damage your engine. I trigger the system at 9 psi with the intention that its only on during wide open. I was thinking is its going to make the tuning a whole lot easier than dealing with terrible part throttle low boost activation. I'm using a number 10 jet and the mixture I choose is about 80% meth to water, Thats just a guess any ways my exsact forumula is -20 washer fluid, I pour half out into a empty 1 gal jug then add 4 yellow bottles of heet to each to make 2 gallons which happens to be the size of the factory washer tank My set up is very basic with no frills, they have all sorts of cool stuff but I believe in the kiss method: keep it simple stupid.

sneakyneon

The last time i went to the track I went through 75 pounds of ice! I went back and forth on nozzle placement, The pump is a 250 psi and in such a tight area I'm hoping that its mixing ok? Theres not much room to mount another nozzle across from it cause of the map sensor. The very best set up I could think of was to mount 2 nozzle's in the top of the surge tank relocate the iat sensor to the one of the fronts of the tank, then you could machine that ridicules hump out of the Y and have the hole tig'ed. That was way way way over the top for me but the best way i could come up with.

stevebez

Did you consider mounting the nozzzle ahead of the I/C core?

prodigymb

yeah that is what i was thinking of doing.....similarly to that C32 pic posted.

i think sneaky's logs def prove that as expected w/m does work on our car (just like all others)

keeping IATs under 80 on a full 1/4 mile run is amazing.

what does your car run sneaky?

sneakyneon

I think there is alot of potential with water meth,I choose my nozzle location because I really felt the IC is a pretty big restriction and struggles as it is then to had the difficulties of flowing meth and water through it.Like i said before I dont really know any more than anyone else so if you do it please post your results.
I haven't raced the car with the meth yet since the tracks are closed for the next 3 months. but on my old set up it ran a best of 11.84@117 but that run was a fluke, The last time out it was running 12.00@119. basic mods at that time were a pulley headers, 3inch exh. with NO tune. this year it has a 82 TB pulley, headers no cats, 3in exh, phernolic spacers (top and bottom)some port work, water meth injection and fingers cross i can get my tune.

NEMES1S

Don't most manufacturers say not to put it before your i/c? I thought that is what the instructions on my coolingmist varicool said.

prodigymb

12.00 at 119 .....i am assuming you don't have a tire?

stevebez

If you are running any meth then I think after the core. The fluid ahead of the core is not a problem as it flashes to steam / vapour pretty quickly at that point in the air stream (its pretty hot ahead of the I/C). I would be more concerned of the corrosive effects of the meth on the I/C core than anything else. I don't plan to run any meth but water only so I think ahead of the core is ideal - I am looking at the install as a IAT coolant only and not to increase any fuel octane levels. Getting IAT lower will allow ECU to run more timing than otherwise, thats all I want.

I would be interested in your results running water only and water / meth...?!?!?