ahmad0658

I was wondering if any run with M3 with HPF package (Turbo) before in any of the stages? Any has experience with that to share it with us whether her/his Merc is modded or stock?

blackbenzz

HPF M3 > E55 in most cases. What kind of race are we talking about. Well modded E55 has a good chance in the 1/4 but wont stand a chance in roll on races against stage 2 and higher

ahmad0658

I have seen M3 over here in dubai, and I could recognize the sound of turbo specially when the guy shift, I did small search about this and I end up with HPF M3, I wanted to know how will our cars compared to this M3 in terms of racing from 35 mph and up not from zero.

what kind of mods will make us in good shape when facing one of these?!!!

BenzoBoi

I ran one when I had the followin upgrades on the freeway in mexico:

ECU/Pulley
shorty headers
80 MM TB
upgraded front mount H/E
Exhaust leak
secondary cat delete
resonator delete

Let me tell you. It wasn't even funny. As soon as the M3 hit boost, it was over. Not car lengths...BUS lengths...and a few of them at that. He had the Stage 2 package at the time. Now I hear he's at a stage 3.

leojang

More power and less weight. M3 will win

HadiLaw

My cousins friend has a HPF 2.5. No competition against my car. He stays head to head with Ford GT's (stock).

ahmad0658

so sad to hear that we can not beat this car even with good mods ..

M3-ADDICT

Renegades

Meh. I had a fully modded AA Supercharged M3 with just about everything on it and it was still disappointing. I don't doubt the HPF M3s are fast, i've seen them. But my modded 996TT puts my AA M3 to shame, like extreme shame.

BMWs just suck generally when it comes to straight line speed. Leave that up to Porsche.

HadiLaw

Check out my video. I raced the AA M3 Stage 3. Beat him pretty good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqxIotvnhwk

citylightva

And an HPF Stage 2 is putting close to 600 at the wheels...

dr_brains510

Too bad only a handful of ppl w/ M3's will have an HPF M3's. So about 99.9% of the time, the M3's will have the regular add-on mods so the E will win almost all the time.

vinnyz

i raced HPF 2.5 and got my butt handed to me on highway .. he got 8 cars before i knew it .. other guy has HPF 3 and omg never been in a car that scared me like that car did . we went from 70 to 150 so fast the tires broke loose bad with drags on it

blackbenzz

Depends on how you look at it. You definitely have a chane in the 1/4 if you have some good mods. You are also comparing a pretty expensive aftermarket FI setup to a stock sc setup. Put some turbos on a 55 and
Check your "drives" portion of your avatar. Enough said.

Just a reminder, your M3 was slowwwww and nowhere near a HPF car

Renegades

Yeah no doubt. My AA SC'd M3 was only making 444whp. And that's a $12k+ setup... so disappointing.

600awhp in a 996TT is easy to get for a relatively low cost. In the M3 however, it would run you $15k+ easily... and you'd still have traction issues, and it'd still be a BMW.

Jk M3s are nice, but to each his own.

Yikes. That's impressive.

930chas

Each to their own, but I personally like the M3 better then the 996tt. I think the e46 M3 is a classic design, and to me the 996tt is rather bland. Plus, I like how my car is super low profile, no one would ever think it was making 700+rwhp.... But I agree the stigma set forth by most M3 drivers is really disappointing.

nlpamg

bahahahahahahahahaha! so true. everything he's "driven" hasn't been close to a 55 much less an HPF car.

Renegades

I agree that the E46 M3 is a beautiful car. Hence why I bought one. I really enjoyed mine, and it had pretty much everything done to it (Brembos, HREs, SC'd, Pss9s, etc). However, in a straight line it was quick, but not torquey at all!! That's what sucked most of all. It handled very well and was very predictable. In some ways the M3 looks better than a 996TT, but I think overall, a modded 996TT with wheels, lowered, etc., looks very intimidating. Wing, scoops, rear intercooler vents in the bumper, large front air ducts in the front, etc.

An M3 with a front mount intercooler behind the grille is a different kind of sexy though

I've never been in a Turbo'd M3 so I can't say how I feel about them, but I wouldn't pass up the opportunity to own one.

I just like the fact that I you can take a stock 996TT add K24 hybrids for $2k, do a tune, straight pipes, and injectors and be in the 600+whp range and not have any reliability issues at all (stock block holds 800+whp). Also, Turbos launch like none other.

I'd love to run a Stage 1 or 2 HPF M3 sometime. From a dig, of course.

citylightva

One of the guys here in Dallas has a Stage 2.5. He's still looking for traction LOL...I think he's going to try MT's on 17" wheels now. He's got a 5.75 60-130 Only person in the club I've seen beat him is a Ford GT TT......

930chas

Scott? Yeah, traction is tough to find on these cars. I recently got some MT Streets on 17" Fikses, but haven't been able to try them out due to our crappy weather.

SLK55R

but honestly after the SLK ... the major problem is traction.

Of course I don't have that problem now!

izzynyc

996tt Bland, over the box shape of the E46? Like you said it's your opinion.

930chas

I remember your sc M3. That was a great looking car. And don't get me wrong, I am definitely not anti-996tt. I strongly considered buying one and installing an evoms gt700 or a package of that level, but in the end HPF's customer service and quality... plus I really do have a soft spot for the M3.. won out.

Bland was probably too strong a description. But not a fan of how similar the 996tt and the standard 996 are in the looks department.

citylightva

Yeah, Scott...That thing is a beast, as I'm sure yours is too...Yeah getting a little snow huh...I cant remember a winter like that there since 96. Where are you in Maryland..?? I grew up in Loudoun County VA...Still visit family there a lot...

tscales

I miss my M3. Beautiful car. Mine was stock, so the major disappointment was torque. Went to a C6 after that. Lots of torque

Now I have the E55 and the 996TT. I don't think the 966 is beautiful. In fact, I don't like the looks at all, but in the middle of a snow storm, I'll go with the 996 over the C6 or M3 any day !