W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

If latest info is true (inside). New M will have more hp/ New AMG more torque

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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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I would love to see the boys at Underground Racing get ahold of this new engine.....
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 06:05 PM
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 06:14 PM
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I just started modding my e55, now I will get smoked by all these newer model M's....
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
Depends who is pushing more PSI and the size of Turbo.

I think AMG is probably not running a max set up, just to market another higher level model.

The M given its smaller displacement, probably running a more aggresive boost mapping.. to get the torque and hp.

Either way.. non of these cars will stay stock... and if I had a choice to visit my friendly dealer.. I think there is no dispute that MB dealers for the most part are not "****" about piggy back systems or denying warranty claims.

Gearing will probably help the M stay ahead. But the AMG will not be far behind.
BMW is pushing about 21 psi at max boost. This AMG motor is 14.5psi and about 18.9psi with the performance package. I wonder who will have room for more boost on stock internals.
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 10:21 PM
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by lexaltezza
BMW is pushing about 21 psi at max boost. This AMG motor is 14.5psi and about 18.9psi with the performance package. I wonder who will have room for more boost on stock internals.
where did you read about the bmw engine pushing that much boost,is there a write up on that engine yet?
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by skratch77
where did you read about the bmw engine pushing that much boost,is there a write up on that engine yet?
The M5 will use the same engine as the X5 and X6 M, which is actually hitting about 21.8psi, not 21psi as I wrote earlier. The M5's engine should be right around that mark.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 01:57 AM
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why can't they change the engine bay a tad to get a better flowing exhaust manifold......I am pretty excited that there is something new on the horizon.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 02:24 AM
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I love how we've been asking for a TT for about 5 years now and AMG just caught on. Not that they haven't made anything groundbreaking in the recent years or anything but damn...hows that for timing?
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 02:39 AM
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i think the 7-G will handle it.

as one of my friends installed an SL63 gear, which is the MCT on his 55. it accelerates like a monster but the shifting is a bit stiff.

he also doesn't know how the tech managed to install it @@. but the downfall of it. is he can not use upper or lower shifts.

so it is always on D only, C/S and cant use te +/- feature.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 03:07 AM
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Was just about to ask...

Originally Posted by Ali_E55
i think the 7-G will handle it.

as one of my friends installed an SL63 gear, which is the MCT on his 55. it accelerates like a monster but the shifting is a bit stiff.

he also doesn't know how the tech managed to install it @@. but the downfall of it. is he can not use upper or lower shifts.

so it is always on D only, C/S and cant use te +/- feature.
W/out proper programming this swap is worthless, always in (D) I'd be livid after that mod
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 03:28 AM
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this is getting ridiculous. pretty soon we are going to see 1,000 hp vehicles off the showroom floors like its normal.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 05:43 AM
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by infantry
this is getting ridiculous. pretty soon we are going to see 1,000 hp vehicles off the showroom floors like its normal.


At what point does it become realized how blatantly unsafe it can be that any joe schmoe with money can grab one of these rocket-ships?

They should start issuing special licenses for these beasts or something.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by K-A

At what point does it become realized how blatantly unsafe it can be that any joe schmoe with money can grab one of these rocket-ships?
At the point that the joe has a buck fifty to give up, what do you think the S63 will go for this summer?
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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Probably some major $$$$

To actually add to that previous statement, when these things get several years old and are going for $20 somethingK, and any kid with New-Accord-Money can pick up a 600HP beast, THAT is worrisome!
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 08:28 AM
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Interesting turbo/exhaust manifold ... twin intercoolers are nice but dont look too big...so going large on boost may yield same problems as before.

This car will be quicker than old E55 with pulley and tune no question ... purely on how it will get power to the ground.... The S/C neck snappers struggle too much with traction.... a fully modded one will be a good comparison though on a roll...
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 08:39 AM
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How retarded is it to have a "performance package" for an AMG?
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 09:05 AM
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I guess its truley time to sell my 63 and wait on the new Beast!!
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by K-A


At what point does it become realized how blatantly unsafe it can be that any joe schmoe with money can grab one of these rocket-ships?

They should start issuing special licenses for these beasts or something.
The only evidence you need to support your claim is a random selection of threads from the C63 forum.

"Powerslides.....WOOOOT!!!!"
"I drag raced a school bus today"
"Spun my car into a pole in the snow, but it's okay because I'm buying a Lambo tomorrow"
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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with this much power stock,you would only need a few bolt on's like a custom mid section with mid cat delete.

there is prolly about 20-25 hp there,add the sport pack tune that up's the boost and you have a car making 550whp
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bp95gsx
Cars of tomorrow will be amazing!

whats going to make them any different tomorrow?

jk
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